shoulder exercise question

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Hi guys, I have a problem with shoulder exercises and was wondering whether anyone could give me some suggestions.

I want to exercise my shoulder muscles, with doing minimal workout on my traps. My traps are already too big, and no matter what I do, they along with my neck seem to be the first muscles to grow. Is there anyway that you can isolate the shoulder without working out the traps?

I been trying to do lateral raises with cables (more force when arm is near vertical so persumebly should be doing more shoulder than lats), but they also seem to workout my lats quite a bit.

Could someone suggest some exercises. I been trying to find one for over 2 years now and it is the major reason why is always stop exercising after a period of time; so any advice would be greatly appreciated
 
maybe shoulder press, incline press (near vertical), or only perform the top of half of the exercise (lateral raise) to isolate the shoulder...

I'm not real sure though , i tend to stick to full body exercises and try not to isolate any one muscle. Those might work for you though?
 
Check your form on these shoulder movements. It sounds like more of a "synergistic dominance" problem. So get a little technical:

-keep shoulders low on movements (if your shoulders are rising to your ears....your wrong)
- if form fails....lower the weight

Here are a few movements for shoulders that should help you develop more neuromuscular efficiency.....if that is the problem (if not just disregard:D )
 
You could cut out the direct shoulder work for a while. With presses, like flat and more so on incline, your shoulders already get hit pretty well. With rows, your hit a different part of your delts. I would leave some lateral raises and some bent over flys, or reverse flys...whatever they are, in there occassionally as well.
 
I'm confused how a lateral raise...pulling up/out from the side, would work the lats, which is designed to pull the arm down/into the body.

military press, db shoulder press, arnold press, lateral raises and rowing for the back should be plenty. bent over raises/flyes or high cable pulls with ropes, to the neck, will target rear delts.
 
Hi thanks for all the responses guys.
I have been concentrating on form quite a bit. I use moderate weight, and usually use my other free arm to stabalise the shoulder to prevent it moving towards my neck, but for some reason my traps are always get tensed and get a pretty good workout anyway (which i really dont need considering my small frame, they just eat at my shoulder width).
I usually do whole body exercise as well. The problem is that for some reason my chest and traps tend to get large faster than my other muscles and look disproportional. So i do kind of need to isolate.

Do you guys recommend military press, and vertical rows? I was under the impression that they work more on your traps than the lateral raises do. Also Skian suggested I only do the top half of the lateral raise, but wouldnt that concentrate more on the traps than the delts?

By the way Malkalore, I wasnt talking about by lats, i was talking about my traps.

Thanks for the responses again guys
 
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