Requesting advice on my exercise routine

I posted most of this thread over in the "New Members" forum a few days ago but have yet to receive a response, so figured the topic might be more appropriate to this forum. Any advice would be greatly appreciated! The rest of this post is from my original thread:


First let me say that after having browsed this board for a few days, you people are doing a very respectable thing by helping out us newbies with advice (and free of charge!). Just for a bit of an introduction, I'm a 23 year old guy, about 5 feet 10 inches tall and currently weighing about 145 pounds. I've always been the type of person that has a metabolism so fierce I sometimes think there's no possible way I could ever get fat. So, not unexpectedly I've always been a bit on the skinny side. I've always been a relatively active person though and always look for an opportunity to turn any type of chore into something physical.

A couple years ago, I decided to get a bit more serious about trying to bulk up a bit and bought a weight bench for my home. I'll say right now, one of my biggest obstacles to overcome (as far as keeping exercise routines) is that I'm a medical student and tend to always be on the go. So, while I have had no problem in organizing routines and finding useful exercises, failed implementation has been what has been holding me back. Anyway, I decided it was time to get more serious about it this summer and have managed to keep to a fairly consistent schedule of weight lifting.

I've been going at it pretty solidly for about 2 months now and have been noticing the differences starting to show up - both in how I look and what I can do. Now that I'm starting to see some results, I'd really like to make sure that what I am doing is an effective schedule and what improvements I can make.

Because it is still sometimes difficult to predict which days I will not have time to do a workout, my schedule is not that set in stone (such as working out every Mon., Wed., & Fri.). However, I have been keeping to a rotation of 5 different focused workouts which I rotate through with each day I have time to train (although many of the exercises are compound in focusing on several muscle groups). On average, I have probably been working out about 4 days a week. From the little I've read on this board though, I get the impression that doing a full-body workout each day might be the better way to go. However, I tend to only get about 1-1.5 hours to workout each day, and spreading it over so many different muscle groups seems like I wouldn't be pushing any of them hard enough. Here is a rough idea of the schedule I've been following. Rest days usually tend to fall every 1-2 days. For each of these exercises I tend to do about 5 sets of 5-10 reps for each of these exercises, but the exact amount varies with the exercise and how much I can handle before getting fatigued).

DAY 1 - Chest
Benchpress (also occasional incline bench press) - 120 lbs.

DAY 2 - Back (Lats, lower back, middle back)
Stiff-Legged Barbell Deadlift (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Stiff-Legged+Barbell+Deadlift)
Bent Over Barbell Row (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Bent+Over+Barbell+Row)
All using barbell of 70lbs

DAY 3 - Legs (Calves, Hamstrings, Quadriceps)
I'm not sure what you call the "device" but for the quads and hams, I use the little thingy on the end of my weight bench - sitting on my butt for quads, lying on my stomach for hams. I'm sure you guys know what the device is I'm talking about - it's on practically every weight bench. I have about 50lbs on the end and do maybe 15-20 reps for each (unless otherwise stated).
For the calves I do the Standing Barbell Calf Raise (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Standing+Barbell+Calf+Raise) although I don't have a board to stand on. I do this with a 70lbs barbell across my shoulders and do many reps (maybe about 30).

DAY 4 - Shoulders (Neck, Shoulders, Traps)
Standing Military Press (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Standing+Military+Press)
Upright Barbell Row (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Upright+Barbell+Row)
Both with 70lbs barbell

DAY 5 - Arms (Biceps, Forearms, Triceps)
Barbell Curl (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Barbell+Curl)
For the forearms, I do wrist curls while standing with 70lbs barbell (usually can do only a few reps)
I don't do any specific tricep exercises on this day as many of the of the exercises I do on other days also utilize the triceps fairly well.

I also do Abdominal exercises on every workout day normally consisting of Crunches (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Crunches), and Cross-Body Crunches (http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/exercises.php?Name=Cross-Body+Crunch). I think that these exercises focus mainly on the upper abs though and I've noticed that they are growing larger than my lower abs. Any ideas of how to add more balance? Something else I've noticed is that the upper part of my left abs is a bit larger than on my right (I'm left-handed if that makes any difference). How can I keep this from getting worse? Would more cross-body crunches for the right side help more?

My main concern with this strategy of workouts is that I'm leaving each muscle group too long before the next workout and that I'm not putting enough focus into the areas I really want to see results in - namely, chest, arms, and shoulders. I also always follow up my workouts with a protein shake of about 1/3rd cup of protein powder.

Anyway, sorry for that this post is so long... I promise all my posts will not be this way. ;) I look forward to any advice you all guys can offer.
 
First off welcome to the site. Like many others, trying to find time to get in exercise can be difficult. However if your workouts are lasting for an hour or more, you have time to do some better exercises than what I see listed. It is good though that you have stiff legged dl and bent over rows. Thats a plus. Im guessing that you only have a barbell and no dumbells?

I think if you went more compound movements you could do much more, much faster. With an hour and a half you could definitely do a full body 3x a week. Or if you wanted to split it up and shorten your workouts to around 45 minutes, combining bodyparts may be a good idea. I would take a look at these exercises to see if you feel they are right for you

Hack Squat
Upright Row
Close Grip Bench
Romanian Deadlift
 
first of all, i would say your routine isn't great (i decided to be polite :D)

i'm maybe misunderstanding, but day 1 - you spend an hour doing bench press? day 5 is redundant. you work your forearms!?? why do you train your abs every workout day? they need time to rest as much as your other muscles do.

my suggestion would be to follow a pre-made routine. i recommend chad waterbury. he has made several workout routines and all of them should be found on t-nation.

10x3 For Fat Loss
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=795366

The High Frequency Secret
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=755131

Perfect 10 Training
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=725763

The Art of Waterbury
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=693794

The Set/Rep Bible
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=651322

Hybrid Hypertrophy
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=580380

Son-Of-A-Bitch (SOB) Training
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=561180

The Science of 10x3
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=547470

The Waterbury Method
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=534922

Total Body Training (TBT)
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=508031

Triple Total Training (TTT)
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=476508

GPP ASAP
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=468125

Singles Club
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459290

The Anti-Bodybuilding Hypertrophy Training Routine #1
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459341

The Anti-Bodybuilding Hypertrophy Training Routine #2
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459211

Quattro Dynamo
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459216

Big Boy Basics
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459533

Build a Huge Chest in 6 Weeks
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459382

Outlaw Strength and Conditioning Program
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459262

The VOS Program
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459515

100 Reps to Bigger Muscles
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459605

Push Up Your Explosive Strength !
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=460371

The Next "Big Three"
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459914

Old School Grip Training
http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=459819
 
Thanks for the responses guys. And just for the record, I didn't make up that whole routine myself. And as for doing abs every workout, I had read that ab training should be done each workout as I believe they stated they took more work to define (granted, that came from the same website, but I believe it was a part of that body building site I referenced).
Just to answer a few more questions - no, on day 1 I do not spend an hour just doing benchpresses. As I stated, I do about 5 sets of 5-10 reps so that day would usually be shorter. As for day 5, I'm not certain what the problem with the exercises is. I understood that the first focused on the biceps and the 2nd on the forearms. Or are you saying it's not a good idea to work the forearms? :confused:

And thank you for all the links, but would it be possible to get a suggestion as to a single good routine that focuses on what I can do with a barbell and bodyweight exercises? I can pick up some dumbells if I am otherwise severely limiting myself. Thanks again.
 
lunges
deadlifts
dips
chins
shoulder-presses
bent-over-rows
3 times a week.
forget training one bodypart a day unless your on steroids.
 
tonymcclellan said:
Says who? Full body or split routines both have their benefits. I dont see why you are so against splits just because your preference is full body routines. As a beginner a full body would be great, but eventually that becomes boring (IMO).

http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=933431

http://www.muscleandfitnesshers.com/science/10
if you have read my previous posts you will see i am not against splits,only i bodypart a week splits.
when you pick up a weight protein synthesis(muscle growth) begins and last for 36hrs to 48hrs so if you only train 1 bodypart a week,it will grow for 48hrs then return to baseline for the other 5 days.if you train every 48hrs you are staying anobolic all week.
2 or 3 bodypart a week splits are fine.
as far as fullbody being boring you dont have to do the same exercise every day you could do it like this ..ie chest
mon flat-bench
wed incline-bench
fri dips
same for other bodyparts and you get more rest days or you can do your cardio on non weights days:cool: :D
 
buzz said:
if you have read my previous posts you will see i am not against splits,only i bodypart a week splits.
when you pick up a weight protein synthesis(muscle growth) begins and last for 36hrs to 48hrs so if you only train 1 bodypart a week,it will grow for 48hrs then return to baseline for the other 5 days.if you train every 48hrs you are staying anobolic all week.
2 or 3 bodypart a week splits are fine.
as far as fullbody being boring you dont have to do the same exercise every day you could do it like this ..ie chest
mon flat-bench
wed incline-bench
fri dips
same for other bodyparts and you get more rest days or you can do your cardio on non weights days:cool: :D

I have read your previous posts, and the article or link to the HST training info. Very good info. Not trying for an arguing match but do you consider chest/tris to be a one body part split or two? Only asking because most of the splits setup or recommended on this site are not mon-chest tue-arms...etc. Just trying to get your angle.
 
tonymcclellan said:
I have read your previous posts, and the article or link to the HST training info. Very good info. Not trying for an arguing match but do you consider chest/tris to be a one body part split or two? Only asking because most of the splits setup or recommended on this site are not mon-chest tue-arms...etc. Just trying to get your angle.
i think i understand your question..
chest/tris is two bodyparts but both pushing so if you did
mon chest/tris
wed back/bis
fri legs/shoulders
then i dont think that is enough for each bodypart ..ie..back/bis only get worked once in 7 days.
but if you did this.
mon chest/shoulders/tris
tue back/legs/bis
wed rest
thu chest/shoulders/tris
fri back/legs/bis
then each bodypart is getting at least two workouts a week.
the only problem (if you find it a problem) with this is mon all pushing tue all pulling so the muscles are not getting a rest like a push/pull workout,but they are getting a restday.
 
How about this?

Thanks, I found this article to be very useful: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=508031

I've done one workout already and was satisfied with the results. How does this look for a general full body workout? Keep in mind I'll be adding some variations in as mentioned above.

Bench press
Rows
Military press
Squats
Power cleans
1 focused exercise (e.g. bicep curls)

Since this will take a bit longer than I usually spend, I think I might push ab workouts to the "off days".

Can you see a problem with any of this? Would I be missing anything?


As for another point I mentioned in my original post, I'm curious about the slightly disproporationate difference between my abs from left to right. The left side definitely seems larger than the right. Does this mean I'm favouring the one side and should try to give more focus to the other in order to correct?
 
Elemental said:
Thanks, I found this article to be very useful: http://www.t-nation.com/readTopic.do?id=508031

I've done one workout already and was satisfied with the results. How does this look for a general full body workout? Keep in mind I'll be adding some variations in as mentioned above.

Bench press
Rows
Military press
Squats
Power cleans
1 focused exercise (e.g. bicep curls)

Since this will take a bit longer than I usually spend, I think I might push ab workouts to the "off days".

Can you see a problem with any of this? Would I be missing anything?


As for another point I mentioned in my original post, I'm curious about the slightly disproporationate difference between my abs from left to right. The left side definitely seems larger than the right. Does this mean I'm favouring the one side and should try to give more focus to the other in order to correct?
looks good but instead of powercleans do chins or pulldowns one is a vertical pul the other a horizontal pull,that way you get back thickness as well as back width.
try it in this order.
squat
bench-slight incline
chins or pulldowns
military-press
rows
good luck:cool: :D
 
The problem with chin ups and pull downs is that I don't have any equipment that allows me to do it. Otherwise, I think they're both great exercises. Is there any equivalent I can do with a barbell?

As for the Romanian dead lifts, isn't that incorporated into the power cleans?

Can anyone offer any help on my ab question?
 
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