Pushup help...

When you are doing pushups as one of the main ways you work out (I don't have constant gym access) should you do them to failure, take a 30sec-1 min rest and then do it again? Or, should you just do a set amount, so say 500 in sets of 50? Then say I wanted to do 1000 in the course of the day, how should I go about doing them? 200 with sets of 50 five times per day?
Thanks.
 
In general I don't think working until failure is the way to go. If you are trying to build strength you should always leave a little gas in the tank.

Are you only doing military PUs? If so, you should try adding variations.

Hindu, Dive Bomber, Plyo (clapping is one form), Then progress to PUs with your feet on a ball or put your hands on 2 medicine balls.

Do PUs with staggered hand or one hand higher than the other.

You can do amazing things with PUs you just have to mix them up.
 
wide hand stance - hits pecs hard
narrow stance (like make a diamond with your thumbs and index fingers) hits triceps hard

put your feet on something like a chair = more weight lifted because you've changed the angle of the pivot.
 
I did pushups for 2 months straight, only 30 a morning (after doing some ab work) and I noticed my triceps and arms overall, develop a lot. I now feel comfortable wearing tank tops. Doing tons and tons isn't that good. I'd say at most do like 3 sets of 30. With situps (sorry this has nothing to do with your post,) guys like to do like 500...which is terrible. My friend got a hernia from trying this after about a week.
 
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You can substitute this with three chairs.
 
Woodt.
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I used to do 500 and 700 a day myself for years , only when I was going to fight for a world title eyeing off 1000 upuntil latelast year when i had to go overseas to set up a business and train some yards out there . Good advice about mixing it up. You eventually just end up doing that anyway because you do look for more work or a better way to get an advantage or incorporate and recruit more groups or just anything else at all and it feels good to take a balancing load on another angle .
LeiYunFat's right though, and decline are nice and different again aswell.. as are decline hindu and decline diamond hndus and so on.


As far as how to get those numbers out, I always work in sets of 50 for nearly all my body weight exercises. I just find it a really easy number to get to and enough to fee like I'm working. When i do those, particularly when it starts getting harder, I count off lots of 10 in the 50 in my head .. 10, 9, 8 ..., 10, 10, 9, 8,.. 20,and so on.
If to begin with all you can do is 50 x 4 to 200 five times a day then providing you can actually be motivated to pump out 200 five times , that could be the best way for you to get there. Although, for myself i usually shoot for a min 200 or 300 and just nut them out in one sesh, stopping between sets to stretch in an arms stretched to the front child pose, where you sit back on your feet, use your hands to stretch and align your spine as you tilt your pelvis behind you and get your chest to lay on your quads as you use that pull your spine down from your shoulders and then tip you head forward to get the stretch running deep into your delts and your tris.

If you can just get the whole 500 out in back to back sets , then great, but if you can;t and need to break it up into lots of 2 or 4 sets of 50x 2 or 4 or 50 x 4 x 2 + 50 x 2 or whatever over your sesh, you should find that pretty managable aswell.
If you do hit failure, don't worry too much because next time or the time after, you'll likely 've adapted. It happens when you're smashing plateaus.

Are you doing anything else at home besides run?
 
Thanks for response. Blooming Lotus I do crunches at home, pull ups, I have 3kg weights but really they are so light I can't do anything with them, sometimes I put them together, but 6kg isn't very hard either. I might get a weight set soon. I also do squats, other leg exercises and as you said I run a fair bit.
 
If you don't have weights, use sand bags. The shifting weight makes you adjust more and grabbing them is great for grip strength.

You can make your own pretty cheaply too
 
yah? try doing it and for that many reps when your feet dont have an obliging surface under you . Your variation is b grade.
cheers and apologies some of us worked in earnest.

...this variation even has potential to go c- just on that on a tired day you could end up working it incline.

I dont think thats what he was after...though i could indeed be wrong.

cheers

Blooming Lotus
 
you should do pushups with arms really wide, once in a while i put on a tight backpack with a couple text books, and push up on dumbells; my 20 pounds adds about a good 6-8 inches so that i can dip my head past my hands
 
Ok guys, few questions.

1) Is it as stated in a previous post
. arms wide apart = pecs
. arms close together = tri
My friend seems to think it's the other way round, I think it's the above.

2) Are the 'Hindu' exercises in general as good as they are said to be? Could somebody elaborate on them please? Also I know how to do the squats and push ups, but are there any more exercises to do?

3) With my current eating sligtly more calories than I normally do (I think around 200 cals to 500) + push ups ect, should I put on weight quickly/ roughly how long will it take to get 10lbs?

Again thank you very much for the responces :D
 
1) You are correct. It's exactly like your hand position on the bar during a bench press, except instead of a bar, you are pushing yourself as weight.

2) not too familiar with body weight exercises. i know Skull Pilot is big into them, maybe he can help

3) This question is rather difficult to answer, there are just too many variables. everybody is different. If you have a high metabolism naturally, it could take months. If you dont notice any gains within the first week or so, increase your calories by 500 and keep an eye on it. Just keep the eating clean
 
Well eating more isn't exactly easy for me, I don't know what I could eat 'a lot' of. What are some simple foods which can boost calorie intake especially for bulking. I am very toned but don't have much fat at all. Would foods like bananas, crackers, some cheese, prawns, bread, milk, traditional greek yogurt.. Be good for quick eating/ drinking?
 
Woodt said:
Well eating more isn't exactly easy for me, I don't know what I could eat 'a lot' of. What are some simple foods which can boost calorie intake especially for bulking. I am very toned but don't have much fat at all. Would foods like bananas, crackers, some cheese, prawns, bread, milk, traditional greek yogurt.. Be good for quick eating/ drinking?

all those are decent choices. depending on the type of cheese, you may want to keep this to a minimum. You want to avoid things high in saturated fats. And always try to get protein in all your meals. basically, just eat what you normally eat but make your portions a little bigger. If you are eating 5-6 meals a day, adding 100 calories to each (which isnt that much more food) will easily increase your caloric intake by 500-600
 
Ok I'll eat more calories, but what I have noticed is that I have fairly broad shoulders, but from the side I look fairly thin. What can I do without gym equipment to get my back muscles stronger? I could do it in the gym, but I can't go more than once or twice per week, it is not really ideal.
Thank you for the quick responces junkfoodbad.
 
Woodt said:
Ok guys, few questions.

1) Is it as stated in a previous post
. arms wide apart = pecs
. arms close together = tri
My friend seems to think it's the other way round, I think it's the above.

2) Are the 'Hindu' exercises in general as good as they are said to be? Could somebody elaborate on them please? Also I know how to do the squats and push ups, but are there any more exercises to do?

3) With my current eating sligtly more calories than I normally do (I think around 200 cals to 500) + push ups ect, should I put on weight quickly/ roughly how long will it take to get 10lbs?

Again thank you very much for the responces :D


1) Woodt,
While you are correct, to vary the muscle groups you use in dffierent pushups, try varying the direction you point your hands. ..Like finger tips 45degrees inward ( wide diamond) elbows out, elbows facing directly to your rear and so on. It also makes a difference how you distribute your weight through your palms like evenly over the whole surface, on the outter side toward the blade and so forth. Play with a few variations and you'll see what I mean.

2). Hindu versions of exercise are good harder and differnt to standard versions, because with the rolling action it allows you to get deeper into the muscle and have a fuller rom( range of movement).

here is my own regular bwe exercise sesh that I ideally do every afternoon.
It is quite a serious program, but my own daughter is 12 going on 13 and se has managed this herself ( even with less reps /sets/ or on easier levels of the exercises) for years. she also blitzes mainly her sprint but also distance feilds.
To begin, Nearly always in minimum sets of 50x4,
1. abs
reverse crunches ...lay on you back... knees up, feet flat and shoulder width apart,last few vertabrae planted into the ground, lower back flat to ground, navel to spine so entire back is flat on ground as though sunk in cement. ( Remember , the idea behind ab exercises is to get your ribs closer to your pelvis on a flat plain).
ab1.In a rvs crunch, for each rep, rock your knees into your chest , lifting your feet off the floor as you might do if you wrere on a swing, bringing your shins parelell to the sky and knees to 90 degrees. The trick here is on the way down, to keep your spine (every vertabrae )planted on the ground.
Once you get the hang of that.. you can begin to do sets where you widen your legs in an isokentic movement where you increase resistance by working through changing angles. you can check out the meaning of that term by googling "dictionary definition isokinetic".
Usually when doing abs, I work in sets of 100 and 120 for straight crunhes. 120 reps for abs is an army set.
Ab2 after rvs crunch,I then go into a straight crunch, where feet back on ground, sliding hands along ground the run alongside my feet, crunch my ribs into my pelvis.
Ab3. lateral olibques.
using a twisting motion, rotating through ribs and torso, dropping lead shoulder back on the side twisting to ( and I do this with my forearm up in a self defence guard)as I bring the opposite shoulder arm and hand across my body to with the inside of my last couple of fingers ( rotating hand down as one might for throwing a good jab) to touch the outside of my foot. minimum of 50 each side..100 good.
Ab4.come back to beginning pose, feet flat, shoulder width apart, arms forward reach into a crunch, extending finger to or over knees. again 100 reps good.
ab5. Same again but this time hands flat thumbs up, crunch and extend hands along outside of your mid thighs / knees.
ab6. as for ab5, but ad a twist to alternate sides. touch finger tips to outside knee.
ab6. same as for ab5, but as you come out rotate hands down , palm facing opposite leg, so outside fingertips touch inside knee. You can do this at various heights and touch opposite inside shin, knee, inside thigh and so on.
ab7. as for abs 4, but reaching /extending through different plains between your legs, over your knees, at a closer angle between your shoulders and arms , over your knees, so maybe on a parelell angle to your chest, then straight up, then arms alongside ear angle and so on until you reach 100.
ab8. 9 this one feels magic and besides tone lateral to really rip a six pack, will physcally squeeze the toxins out of your organs)
as for ab3, twisting laterally, but alternate each rep for where you reach. reach to outside foot, reach just left of that ( when twisting twd left), slightly higher and so on, until you reach directly across to your side twisting trough your ribs and torso, then continue until you're reaching back above your shoulder. Rpt on other side and or / add another set where you alternate sides on each rep.
This builds crAzy core endurance and stabilt at this many reps and feels awesome!!
Ab.9 oblique crunches. alternating side to work obliques only, elbows wide fingertips to base of skull, run straight arm, dircetly down side of body, palm up or down, along the ground to come along side of foot. Rpt for other side or and add another set alternating ides for each rep.

Calves.
calves 1. calf raises. in sets of 50 reps , feet directly forward and shoulder width apart, come up onto tippy toes,for the first 50 landing dead weight on your heels as you come down, using lower portion of muscle between pelvis to stablise as you shake your spine loose . stay relaxed through chest. ( n.b. they do something similar in china for a very prized skill warm up for baguazhang iron qigong)breath through nose. 50 reps
After first set, bending down out of your pelvis( as opposed to over your knees) back straight, come down to first grab or touch ankles, ( chest along your quads as roll down) or touch the ground, palm flat to floor if you can manage.come up roling through verabrae to avoid injury, cross one ankle in front of other, hugging chest to legs head upsidedown holding beind your ankles....change sides repeat.
repeat set, no stretch.
repeat set but point feet inward. ( warning ,..you may feel like a retard, but all is good ..execute fast or slow. a quick pulsing set is good set..but if you do thayt, may want to do 100. ;) :))
point feet outward and repeat.
When you get the hang of this, you may want to isometrically contract butt and hammies and insie thigh as you come up.
stretch down as for stretch after first set.

Quads and butt.
In sets of 50 reps.. wide squats feet forward, butt out, squeeze butt as you come up. alternate feet angle and leg distance apart for each set if you wish. To stretch here, after each 50, on your last rep, hands in prayer position ( which you may also want to consider during reps for extra resistance) come right down into a low low squat, butt nearly to ground, tilt butt back so ( scuse language) between butthole and gentials pointing directly over ground, using elbows to push knees apart. In martial arts this is called a monkey stance.
Add any other quad stretch as you choose.

Pushups. in reps of 50 /set to whatever goal number is.

Tricep extensions.
using a chair or a sofa, or your bed, or a cofee table or low wall or whatever, place palms down directly nxt to you, finger tips hanging over elevated platform.
keeping elbows pointing directly behind you, drop but to floor ( either lvl 1. kness bent, lvl 2 legs straight working off heels, toes pointing skyeward, lvl 3 knees bent 1 ankle over opposite knee, lvl 4 leg straight one foot over opposite knee.
shoot for reps of 50, but eventually at advanced fitness, 100 will be sweet. 200 of these should be ample and will compliment your push ups. 300 if yu must.

chest raises.
lay on ground, pelvis planted into the ground, knees slighty inward for pelvic stabilty. toes pointed behind you.
palm flat, hands under your chin.
lvl 1, raise chest off ground brnging chest up in accordian motion.
lvl 2, as for lvl 1 but at hieight of contraction, release fingertips from chin and squeeze elbows directly out your sides. Great for entire back. 200 of these in sets of 50 good.

lower back extensions.
These work insympathy to compliment and balance your ab work.
still laying face down ( and is okay to alternate sets with your chest raises for rest period between sets)
back of hands on butt or lower back to feel out correct form and what you're working,
raise feet and legs off ground flatting and accorianing chest downward as you lift to cement into ground as you lift or squeeze up. lvl 1. alternate single legs, one foot just off ground for lvl 2. again 4 x sets 50 good.
good deliberate stready deep lower diaphagm breathing through nose important for oxgyen to work with.
Use your exhalation for extra stretch or to produce a relaxed additional resistance.( ;). )

lateral lower back contraction twists.

knees up sitting up high ,feet shoulder width apart, toes fwd, ( Jet Li's lower back is worked on similar principals) hands up in a good martial art guard, as you lower your back to no less than 30 degrees, twist behind through ribs dropping lead shoulder as you come around, elbow to ground if you can manage, .. shoulders on parelell plain, idea to eventually end up at a full 90 degrees from start position.

Have a good stretch sesh.. and you're done.

Sounds scarey but it is a full body workout all without needing to buy anything and something you can do anywhere.

Hope you find something in it you can use.

answer to question 3)
sandwhiches okay ( wholemeal or dark grainy bread best) but try it with cold meat / fish or chicken and don't forget to sometimes ad salads and eat enough fruit.

cheers

Blooming Lotus
 
You should never do more than 12 reps if you're trying to gain muscle mass. Add weight, throw something heavy on your back and try again.

Or just be creative and make some weights yourself, thats what I did.
 
Loads,

He didn't actually say gaining weight was his goal. The guy's an athlete, and borderline professionally performing athlete at that) . I am experienced in the same and I've been qualified to give this advice for over 14yrs. Body builing and increasing size is not always as important as good dense functional muscle and optimising muscle fibre for performance.
P.s. the rep count is 6 for each load to continue gaining size.

cheers.
 
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