Pull Ups

I need some suggestions on how to be able to do more pullups and chin ups to work out my back.

I can only do 1...and thats not even with proper form.

Can you guys suggest a regimen to increase the number of pullups/chinups I can do?

thanks
 
i've heard of different ways

one is doing negatives. stand up something to get you at the top of the movement. then step off and lower yourself on your own. step back on to get yourself back up and lower yourself on your own again. repeat

another one was to do a long set of how many you can do. like do as many as you can, rest then do as many as you can again, rest and repeat. even if its just 1 rep, do 1 rep rest do another or as many as you can.
 
so actually one should only do chin ups (or attempts at it if you can't do even one rep like me) ? no more rows ?
atm i'm doing bent-over BB rows & DB rows for my back.
 
underfooter said:
.......Just.......get stronger.
ha, there you go.

if we're talking about building the muscles of the upper back, then yea, chins and rows

but if we're talking just about chins, i thought if you wanted to get better at it, then work at it. or something to that effect :D
 
I started doing chinups palms facing me...is it me or does it concentrate on the biceps more than my back? For some reason that's where the tension originates and it doesnt feel like my back is into it at all...
 
i'm not 100% sure but i think doing them that way does stress the biceps more than when done with palms facing away.

can anyone verify this?
 
wouldn't it be more logical if palms facing away from you works biceps more than palms facing your way ? after all, you do biceps curl palms facing away from you too, reverce biceps curl is more for fore-arms (according to exrc). but then again, i don't do chins (i'm not working biceps & back on the same day atm, so doing them prolly wouldn't be a good idea anyway) yet, so i don't have any experience myself =)
 
I find the top half of either pull ups or chin ups stresses the biceps. I feel it right where the beceps meet teh elbow on pull ups and more in the body of the biceps on chin ups. I thinkbecause your back is a much larger and stronger muscle the biceps tend to tire before the back is fully exhausted. Two ways to try to mitigate this:
1. after a set of chins immediately do a set of curls. This might increase the strength and endurance of the biceps over time and decrease the difference between back and biceps.
2. pre-exhaust the back muscles with some kind of isolation exercise. Not easy because there are not many exercises that isolate the back. Maybe pull overs or cable pulls?
 
Chinnies with the palms facing you work the biceps more. First of all, the biceps are active in supination (turning your palm up), which is why a supination grip will sollicit them more than a pronated (or palms facing away grip). In any compound pulling exercise, your biceps will be sollicited because you are performing some elbow flexion. That means that the biceps will also be sollicited doing pull-ups (palms facing away), but more so in chin-ups (palms facing you) both because of the supination and because there is more range-of-motion into flexion when using a supinated grip.

Hope I am not being more confusing :(
 
Chin up= palms facing away from you, works your back mainly. pull up= palms facing you, these work the front of your upper body mainly, and your mid back/bottom of the lats. The closer you hands are in pull ups the more you work your shoulders chest and arms, the further to the side and you'll work your back more.
 
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