our skills

mustangdan · Feb 9, 2006

its great that we have this thread and that we have the skills, but have any of you had to honestly neede to use it? me, ive had to use it twice, and hope that i never do again.

aevans410 · Feb 9, 2006

I used it once for real.

I was attacked at an outdoor concert and I put the guy down. Nothing fancy just block/counter with a teisho uchi (palm heel).

Playing around, my brother in law tests me all the time, and he gets put on the ground.

R.Lewis · Feb 10, 2006

funny story, I was getting a lift home with my Karate sensei about 7years ago, he needed to call his wife so we stopped at a pay phone (before we had cell phones) and I wated in the car. It was about 10pm and dark. while he was on the phone I saw a guy on the otherside of the road looking around and walking toward the phone box, he was checking out the car and walked around it, the windows were tinted so he couldnt see me.

He then ran up to the phone box and shouted "give me your keys!!!" at my Sensei. Now being a fulltime karate instructer and having studied for 20years you would expect a marvel of martial arts to unfold on this guy. however as the guy stepped into the phone box, my Sensei hit the guy over the top of the nosie with the phone recever and carried on talking while the guy was on the floor.

His wife never knew anything about it. I just thort I was a funny story.

Ive used what I have learned a few times but not for anything I'd have been seriously hurt over, just stupid fights at school really.

LeiYunFat · Feb 10, 2006

Can't say that I have had to use mine, but I've used them in various places where I probably didn't need to. Hmmmm...I hope to change that soon, anyway.

Test 187 · Feb 15, 2006

Well, I have lived in Cleveland, Chicago, Little Rock, and Milwuakee, and have visited in Los Angeles, and New York, I am 5'7" and 129 lbs, I have had to defend myself from wanna be gangsters, and the likes, more times than I care to recall, I try to teach my students to avoid a fight when possible, but not to turn your back on anyone to avoid a fight, I have come to the rather anoying conclusion that many people, once they know you are in the Martial Arts they seem to want to "put you in your place" so at times a fight can be awfully hard to avoid.

aharris84 · Feb 15, 2006

I have had to use my combatives training in the detaining of prisoners in Iraq, some of whom were armed to one degree or another. And on drunk marines.

Buck It · Feb 22, 2006

I used to bounce some pretty rough bars/clubs. Ju-Jitsu helped A LOT. At 5-9 165pds I'm usually overmatched physically by opponents. Much easier to walk a guy when you get him in an wrist/elbow/shoulder lock.

aevans410 · Feb 23, 2006

Test 187 said:
Well, I have lived in Cleveland, Chicago, Little Rock, and Milwuakee, and have visited in Los Angeles, and New York, I am 5'7" and 129 lbs, I have had to defend myself from wanna be gangsters, and the likes, more times than I care to recall, I try to teach my students to avoid a fight when possible, but not to turn your back on anyone to avoid a fight, I have come to the rather anoying conclusion that many people, once they know you are in the Martial Arts they seem to want to "put you in your place" so at times a fight can be awfully hard to avoid.

unfortunately this is true no matter where you are.

People used to actually fear those in martial arts, but they seem to want to prove themselves against martial artists now. I think its kinda funny when I see those who claim they train and brag about it get their asses handed to em by a street fighter. If I have my way, someone who attacks me won't know im a martial artist until they wake up in the hospital.

Karky · Feb 23, 2006

agree on thatone, i would never tell anyone i know jujutsu, as they could then know what to expect, im more likley to be able to take him down if i can suprise him with self defence techniques.

Buck It · Feb 24, 2006

Karky said:
agree on thatone, i would never tell anyone i know jujutsu, as they could then know what to expect, im more likley to be able to take him down if i can suprise him with self defence techniques.

That should go without sayin, really. Why tip your hand? I once had some guy runnin his mouth at me tryin to pick a fight. After a good while of this, I simply leaned over and calmly said "Ok, look. We can take this outside, and I will severly hurt you, maybe even kill you. Or I can buy you a beer. Whattya say?" He's still alive today, cause he made a wise choice

aevans410 · Feb 24, 2006

you train anything else besides jujitsu buck?

Karky · Feb 24, 2006

Buck It said:
That should go without sayin, really. Why tip your hand? I once had some guy runnin his mouth at me tryin to pick a fight. After a good while of this, I simply leaned over and calmly said "Ok, look. We can take this outside, and I will severly hurt you, maybe even kill you. Or I can buy you a beer. Whattya say?" He's still alive today, cause he made a wise choice

yeah, smart way to do it

i wouldnt start doing jujitsu on the guy without him actually trying to hit me first or anything like that, usually i try to talk my way out of troubble.

Buck It · Feb 24, 2006

aevans410 said:
you train anything else besides jujitsu buck?

Took some Tae Kwon Do at the Olympic center when I moved to CO. Took a little Kenpo. Didn't care that much for either. LOVED Ju-Jitsu.

Nobody · Feb 26, 2006

Damnit. I wanna be strong. I am trying to self teach myself Krav Maga, but I don't know how effect the training will be if I never actually practice it on someone though...

LeiYunFat · Feb 26, 2006

The only people that practice krav maga on other people are soldiers and street fighters...even if you were to enroll in a krav maga school, you wouldn't be drilling on people.

Karky · Feb 27, 2006

LeiYunFat said:
The only people that practice krav maga on other people are soldiers and street fighters...even if you were to enroll in a krav maga school, you wouldn't be drilling on people.

that sounds really ineffective. if you have never tried the techniques on people, complicationes could arise when you need to use them for real.

tonymcclellan · Feb 27, 2006

Buck It said:
That should go without sayin, really. Why tip your hand? I once had some guy runnin his mouth at me tryin to pick a fight. After a good while of this, I simply leaned over and calmly said "Ok, look. We can take this outside, and I will severly hurt you, maybe even kill you. Or I can buy you a beer. Whattya say?" He's still alive today, cause he made a wise choice

Its amazing how quickly people back down once they see they are not scaring you. My buddy whose a first degree black belt in karate, was at the bar and went up to get a drink. On his way back he accidentally bumped into some guy and the guy spilled a small amount of his beer. The guy was like "Spill my beer again and I'll kick your ass." My buddy stopped put a cigarette in his mouth and said, "Is that your beer(he had set it on the bar), and they guy said ya. My buddy picked it up and dumped it on the floor, looked at him and said "Do something." The guy just walked away.

Nobody · Feb 28, 2006

Yeah today, I went to the YMCA.

And I walked up to the clerk to check in, and he was having a bad day or something cuz he was like "Dude, Good afternoon! Nice to see you!" I gave him a stare and was like "Wtf is your problem? want me to kick your ass?" And he's like, "Oh man, whats wrong? You okay?" I was like, "Yeah, bettah recognize biatchness."

Thats my story.

LeiYunFat · Feb 28, 2006

tonymcclellan said:
Its amazing how quickly people back down once they see they are not scaring you. My buddy whose a first degree black belt in karate, was at the bar and went up to get a drink. On his way back he accidentally bumped into some guy and the guy spilled a small amount of his beer. The guy was like "Spill my beer again and I'll kick your ass." My buddy stopped put a cigarette in his mouth and said, "Is that your beer(he had set it on the bar), and they guy said ya. My buddy picked it up and dumped it on the floor, looked at him and said "Do something." The guy just walked away.

That's pretty effed up, lookin for trouble like that. It's not so much as your friend being steadfast, moreso being reckless...they are two different things. Normally I would agree with your initial statement, but would keep it restricted to the aggressor. If someone comes up to you with a threat or challenge and you don't budge, then yeah, it's effective. But you can't count on someone not following through when you're pushing back/bluffing.

aevans410 · Feb 28, 2006

tonymcclellan said:
Its amazing how quickly people back down once they see they are not scaring you. My buddy whose a first degree black belt in karate, was at the bar and went up to get a drink. On his way back he accidentally bumped into some guy and the guy spilled a small amount of his beer. The guy was like "Spill my beer again and I'll kick your ass." My buddy stopped put a cigarette in his mouth and said, "Is that your beer(he had set it on the bar), and they guy said ya. My buddy picked it up and dumped it on the floor, looked at him and said "Do something." The guy just walked away.

And this guy was a shodan???

If there is one thing karate should teach us all, its self control. Me in that situation, I would apologize, buy him another beer. If that doesnt placate him, I'll tell him i don't want any trouble. If it escalates, hes gonna end up with something broken. We train martial arts so we don't have to have confrontations, not to go looking for them. Some people just don't understand the responsibility that goes along with that black belt.