Obesity now a 'lifestyle' choice for Americans, expert says

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I understand Ms. English is frustrated, but what she says here is just absurd.

But you can't say if you quit going to the drive-through, exercise more and eat more vegetables, you'll lose weight. There are so many more factors involved.

And I know weight loss isn't that simple, but, yes, those things do help. They help a lot.

She's very overweight, but she does have the advantage of youth on her side. I bet if she just incorporated some light walking 20 minutes a day she'd see results.

Excuses, excuses.

But who am I to talk? It took me around 18 years to decide to make serious changes to my diet and lifestyle in order to become more healthy.
 
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AFP: Obesity now a 'lifestyle' choice for Americans, expert says
Obesity now a 'lifestyle' choice for Americans, expert says
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WASHINGTON (AFP) — As adult obesity balloons in the United States, being overweight has become less of a health hazard and more of a lifestyle choice, the author of a new book argues.

"Obesity is a natural extension of an advancing economy. As you become a First World economy and you get all these labor-saving devices and low-cost, easily accessible foods, people are going to eat more and exercise less," health economist Eric Finkelstein told AFP.

In "The Fattening of America", published this month, Finkelstein says that adult obesity more than doubled in the United States between 1960 and 2004, rising from 13 percent to around 33 percent.

Globally, only Saudi Arabia fares worse than the United States in terms of the percentage of adults with a severe weight problem -- 35 percent of people in the oil-rich desert kingdom are classified as obese, the book says, citing data from the World Health Organization and Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development.

With the rising tide of obesity come health problems and an increased burden on the healthcare system and industry.

"But the nasty side-effects of obesity aren't as nasty as they used to be," Finkelstein said.

"When you have a first-rate medical system that can cure the diseases that obesity promotes, you no longer need to worry so much about being obese," he told AFP.

"With our ever-advancing modern medicine there helping to save the day (at least for many people), are government and the media blowing the magnitude of the 'obesity crisis' out of proportion?" his book says.

A study in which Finkelstein and colleagues at the RTI International, an independent research institute in North Carolina that works on social and scientific problems, asked overweight, obese and normal weight people to predict their life expectancy came up with a total difference of four years.

Normal weight respondents predicted they would live to 78, the obese to 74, and the overweight 75.5.

Other studies that looked at death data back the conclusion that people who carry excess weight tend to die slightly earlier, the book says, and draws the conclusion that "many individuals are making a conscious decision to engage in a lifestyle that is obesity-promoting."

"People make choices, and some people will choose a weight that the public health community might be unhappy about. Why should we try to make them thinner?" Finkelstein said.

Linda Gotthelf, a doctor who heads research at Health Management Resources, a private, nationwide firm that specializes in weight loss and management, agreed that Americans now live longer but stressed that quality of life declines with age.

"People are living longer but with more chronic diseases," Gotthelf told AFP.

"That brings a diminished quality of life, especially for the obese who have more functional limitations as they age and tend to be on multiple medications."

Obesity is not a choice for Alley English, a 28-year-old mother from Missouri who has struggled with a weight problem all her life.

"If you knew that you could be what society considers normal, why would you not choose to do that?" English told AFP.

"As we get older, life does get more rushed and we do tend to make the easier choices sometimes," English, who currently weighs 392 pounds (178 kilograms), told AFP.

"But you can't say if you quit going to the drive-through, exercise more and eat more vegetables, you'll lose weight. There are so many more factors involved."

Gotthelf also disagreed that people choose to be obese.

"There are studies in which people have said they would rather lose a limb or be blind than obese. Being obese is not a desire," she said.

"For many, this is a problem they have struggled with for many years... it gets discouraging after a while," she said.

"I would not doubt that if you asked obese people if they could push a button and not be obese, close to 100 percent would say they would push the button."

Finkelstein says he wrote "The Fattening of America" to "encourage discussion of what I understand is probably an uncomfortable position for a lot of people."

Even if private industry and government take steps to protect society against the costs of obesity, many Americans "will likely continue to choose a diet and exercise regimen that leads to excess weight," because losing weight requires too many lifestyle sacrifices, his book warns.

Meanwhile, frustrated by years of unsuccessful dieting and weight loss programs, English has opted to join a growing number of Americans who have gastric bypass surgery -- hailed in Finkelstein's book as "the best-known treatment for severe obesity."

"I have a higher risk of developing diabetes or hypertension if I don't have the surgery," English said.

"I don't care if I end up with a body like whoever-in-the-media thinks I should look like; I just want to be healthy and able to participate in my daughter's life," she said
 
the 196 lbs I've lost so far have come pretty easily -other things are still incredibly difficult - but I was never one for fast food or the drive thru or anyhting liek that before.. but being aware of what I eat now - is easy and it is a habit...

it's taken me about 22 months to get to the point where it is easy... becuase i know what I have to do - 24 months ago - I'd have a different answer...

When you have a lot of weight to lose -and by a lot -i'm pulling a number out ofthe air and sayin 50 lbs or more... it gets overwhelming because you know it's going to take a long time - yes -lifestyle change... but at the beginning it can be overwhelming, scary and frustrating.

I've written this countless times on so many places - when you have that A LOT number to lose -your head has to be ready to do it... when your head is ready - there's nothing to stop you.

Plus there's a ton of misinformation and bad information available -god knows i've tried so much of it-- when you're 300 plus pounds -- 1200-1500 calories a day is beyond idiotic - it's HARD and the weight doesn't come off quickly -more calories is more effective and that information is really tough to come by...
 
very very very few weight loss programs incorporate the head first -it's all eat less move more - which works in theory and for a person who wants to lose 10lbs -that is the answer but when you're dealing with a lifetime of bad habits -change is hard for most people... and for some it's easier to be what they are rather than put in any effort -ya know that whole devil you know argument...

If i didn't have such ADD, the whole concept of being ready and makign yourself ready I'd love to write a book about... but eh -i'm too distracted by shiney objects and biceps..
 
I know people want quick fixes. Hell, I tried quick fixes more times than I can count. And I know people get frustrated and overwhelmed, as I said so in my first post.

I just don't see how GBS surgery is such a fantastic idea, especially for this woman, who doesn't even sound like she's ready to make lifestyle changes. Maybe she is, but that doesn't come across in the article. I just think the inclusion of that one quote referenced above makes her sound like she's barking up the wrong weight loss tree.
 
GBS from everything I read is more strict than any diet a person can go on... and from a lot of research I've done... unless people get to the problem of what got them to morbid obesity to begin with - they will be back in the same boat in a few years... the head has to be fixed first.

I sat thru a seminar on GBS once - to see if it was right for me a few years ago -and I was honestly too lazy to commit to it so I passed... the seminar I sat thru was brutally honest about it... and was requred before anyone would be considered - as wellas a psych consult too..
 
Yeah, I know. One of my best friends is a 54-year-old woman who had been been morbidly obese most of her life. And she suffered from fibromyalgia. Anyway, after a lot of thinking and consulting she decided to go through with GBS. She's lost 120 pounds so far and feels better than she's felt in thirty years. But she can't consume sugar or alcohol or spices or sharp foods like toast or hard crackers. Anyway, she's made lifestyle changes, unlike the woman in the article, who doesn't sound like she's willing to do that.
 
"If you knew that you could be what society considers normal, why would you not choose to do that?"

I get so sick of hearing that particular excuse .. no matter who uses it for what ever situation they are in.

Change takes work. If you don't truly want to change, you aren't going to do the work. Two years ago, I saw Kirsty Alley step out in her weight loss journey and I briefly thought about embarking on the same journey (not Jenny, though - I'm too cheap for that). But I was not ready to put in the effort. I wasn't ready till January 7, 2007. It's a journey that I am prepared to be on for the rest of my life because I WANT to change.

To anyone who is ready, nothing is going to stop them from changing their life. To anyone who is NOT ready, nothing is going to spur them forward to make any change at all.

God Bless,
mik
 
I don't believe it's always lifestyle choice. I think one of the big problems is how cheap and how much calories are in fast food. You could go to the store once a week and throw down around $100 for groceries and maybe have meals for two weeks. Go to a fast food joint and you could get the same amount meals for half that. If people could afford good food I think obesity rates would go down but with the living wage around $17/hour and the minimum wage half that people have to cut corners somewhere and with the convenience of fast food that's where they will head. More than 1/3 of The urban poor by the age of the 3 are overweight or obese. So I'd say a lot it has to do with income levels than a lifestyle choice.
 
Regarding fast food...

Morning,

Regarding fast food, there are ways to reduce the calories you take in. For example, I never eat the bun with any hamburger - I'll get a double whopper instead and use those patties as the hand-holds (with a napkin, of course). That's my lunch once or twice a week and I haven't seen any negatives arise from it.

Need to drink something? Get water. It's nice and free.

And why does anyone "need" french fries or onion rings on a regular basis?

Choices. It all comes to down personal choices.

Data points,

Barbara
 
Well, you could always buy a giant bag of dried beans and a giant bag of dried rice and cook enough for a week at a time. Eating rice and beans every day 2-3 meals a day might not sound that appetizing, but it's a lot better for you than fast food and a hell of a lot cheaper. Enough dried beans and non-instant brown rice for one person for twenty-one meals might cost fifteen bucks. That's equal to fifteen items off the dollar menu at McDonalds.

People might ask, "Who has time for all that?" Well, if you cook enough of each for a week at one time it really only might take 1-1.5 hours on the stove.

Just sayin'.
 
Well, you could always buy a giant bag of dried beans and a giant bag of dried rice and cook enough for a week at a time. Eating rice and beans every day 2-3 meals a day might not sound that appetizing, but it's a lot better for you than fast food and a hell of a lot cheaper. Enough dried beans and non-instant brown rice for one person for twenty-one meals might cost fifteen bucks. That's equal to fifteen items off the dollar menu at McDonalds.

People might ask, "Who has time for all that?" Well, if you cook enough of each for a week at one time it really only might take 1-1.5 hours on the stove.

Just sayin'.

I would agree. I'm one of those people who can eat the same thing, day in, day out, and enjoy it (my 'same thing' is Costco Rotissere Chicken and beef bone soup). It's generally the main ingredients to my daily food intake (along with protein powder in my coffee in the mornings).

Data points,

Barbara
 
Normal weight respondents predicted they would live to 78, the obese to 74, and the overweight 75.5.

Other studies that looked at death data back the conclusion that people who carry excess weight tend to die slightly earlier, the book says, and draws the conclusion that "many individuals are making a conscious decision to engage in a lifestyle that is obesity-promoting."


So this is an excuse to be overweight and unhealthy, because you will only die 4 years earlier?

I don't know about you, but I'm going for 100. Yeah, they may live to 74, but how will they live? High cholesterol, High Blood pressure, diabetes, is that living?
 
i can't afford to live to 100 - my 401K has taken way too many hits over the years - 76 seems like a good age to check out.. otherwise I'm going to be a walmart greeter and I've never been in a walmart in my life -i really don't want to end my life working in one...

Those stats aren't really terrifying - 4 years - big deal...
 
Enough dried beans and non-instant brown rice for one person for twenty-one meals might cost fifteen bucks.

Half that, I think. A pound of dried beans is less than a dollar, and makes about 6 cups of beans, or 1,200 calories. A pound of rice is also less than a dollar, and makes about 8 cups, or 1,600 calories. You'd also want a bottle of olive oil for fats & flavor; 4 cups to a quart at maybe $4?

If you wanted 2,000 calories a day, with 600 from fat and the rest 50:50 from rice and beans, that would be 1/3C of oil, 3.5C beans and 3.5C rice. So 1/12 of $4 plus 3.5/6 plus 3.5/8, rounded around, is about $1.50 a day.

Unfortunately, most people lack:
- The desire to eat a monotonous diet in the face of commercials showing cheap tasty junk.
- The desire to eat a monotonous diet in the face of family and friends who think you're a nutcase.
- Relatively expensive herbs and spices to improve the monotony.
- Good cookware. If you try to make dried beans or brown rice in a cheap nonstick saucepan on an electric stove, you're likely to end up with burned glue. A rice cooker and a crockpot would solve that, but it's an up-front outlay.
- Experience cooking rice and beans, so you know how to cook them and tricks to improve flavor / texture
- Experience eating rice and beans, so they taste good to you

When I was in college, I had next to no money one summer, in part because of a roommate who never had money for the rent (or the phone bill, or the electric bill, but always had money to go out with her friends), and the lunch I took to work virtually every day was either a baked potato with a little container of salt and pepper or a bowl of rice with a handful of steamed green beans and a splash of soy. Cheap and filling, but not exactly what everyone else was eating.
 
I'm a broke college student, and I very rarely eat fast food. My roommates and boyfriend get it EVERY single day. I even live DIRECTLY behind a Wendy's and less than a 2 min walk from at LEAST 10 different fast food places. I've always felt like I was spending SO much money at the grocery store compared to what all my friends and bf were spending on food. Well I calculated the price of a lot of the meals I eat regulary from the grocery store, and they are almost always way cheaper than anything I'd get as fast food. I don't even buy really cheap things either. Fast food might seem cheaper bc you're only spending a few dollars at a time, but it definitely adds up.
 
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On the point of living those 4 extra years, It might not seem like much now but I bet when it comes down to it and someone is facing the prospect of not making it to see their child's wedding / birth of thier grand kids / insert important life even here. I bet lots of people would wish they have taken care of themselves so they might have that extra bit of time. (Might being an important word in that sentance, we all know there are no guaruntees, despite what the averages say :D )
 
I don't believe it's always lifestyle choice. I think one of the big problems is how cheap and how much calories are in fast food. You could go to the store once a week and throw down around $100 for groceries and maybe have meals for two weeks. Go to a fast food joint and you could get the same amount meals for half that. If people could afford good food I think obesity rates would go down but with the living wage around $17/hour and the minimum wage half that people have to cut corners somewhere and with the convenience of fast food that's where they will head. More than 1/3 of The urban poor by the age of the 3 are overweight or obese. So I'd say a lot it has to do with income levels than a lifestyle choice.

Excellent post!!!!!:hurray: I think there are many things that contribute to obesity as well. I believe that people like variety and like food that tastes good to them. We are also a very "busy" society, and people are looking for convenience. And when on a tight budget, sad to say, fast food and unhealthy store-bought convenience foods seem to be the best answer.

Another point is education...it may sound a little absurd, but not everyone knows what eating healthy is. I can definitely understand the confusion around this because there is so much different and conflicting information out there. As an example, I had a friend who was severely obese as I am, but she has a large frame and is a short woman so it really showed on her and really impacted her lifestyle and wellbeing. Fabulous woman by the way (just thought I should add that ;)) Well she was of course eating whatever she felt like eating and pampering herself with all of the foods she loved (which is why we were such good friends :rotflmao: we used to go out to eat all of the time). Then she decided to start losing weight and told me that she was eating healthy. The next weekend I went to her house and she bought a salad, and put two packets of honey mustard dressing, 4 little packs of honey mustard dipping sauce (for chicken nuggets), and I think she threw some chicken nuggets in there also. The salad was swimming, but she thought that she was eating healthy. She had absolutely no idea how much calories, sodium and cholesterol are in salad dressing!! I told her, she read the nutrition information and was shocked. She is very slim now!

I believe that if you do your research, maybe through a little trial and error also, you can find a plan that works for you and also find cheap and convenient foods that are healthy and taste good. I used to spend much greater than $100.00 a week on dining out and eating whatever I wanted to eat. Now, eating healthy is actually helping my pocket!! With the plan I am on and the foods I need, I can spend $25 - $40 a week on groceries and primarily the only cooking I have to do is boiling rice or potatoes (not including microwaving things...I don't think that is considered cooking....or is it :confused:).

Well I guess I can say my biggest investment really shows, my heaviest recorded weight was 289 lbs (I am sure I went above that), and since I have been spending less on food I lost 15 lbs!

So are there cheaper and more palatable healthy options out there? Yes, definitely! But I understand this cheap fast food fix all too well :)

Sorry for the long post...I am quite a chatter sometimes ;)

Cheers!
 
As well as the length-of-life issue (yep, those 4 years will make a difference once they're all you've got left!) there's also the quality-of-life-in-the-present issue ... if you're unfit and heavily overweight, you'll probably not enjoy the best life which you could have.

Great points about educating people on eating healthily; I'm always amazed by the misconceptions some people have. Especially with foods like nuts and dried fruit -- both fantastically nutritious, but not so diet-friendly if you eat a whole huge bag!

Ali
 
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