Sport Nut Protein

[Typhon]

In Arnie’s ‘Education of a Bodybuilder’ he says that although foods like nuts are high in protein they are not as suitable for muscle development as meat and dairy so recommends eating nuts with other proteins from an animal source.
I seem to remember hearing that nuts contain an incomplete amino acid chain which could explain this but does anyone have any insight into this assertion? Is this still current thinking or has the idea been found to be inaccurate since the book’s release?

 

[~LV~]

This is still the same train of thought.

Only animal products contain complete proteins and you would need to eat a variety of other foods to complete the protein chain in a nut.

 

[Karky]

It's probably the biological value of the protein, which is basically how similar the amino acid profile of the protein is to what we need, or something like that. If you mix and match different kinds of non animal protein sources, you can get all the amino acids you need, though.

I've heard people say you need complete (containing all the essential amino acids that the body can't make itself) protein at every meal, if that's true, then you shouldn't only eat nuts as your protein source in one meal, but rather several types, or mix it with some animal protein. I don't know if that claim holds true though. I mean, as long as you get the essential amino acids that you need in a day, I don't really think it matters that much if 2/6 meals did not contain any of them. But I dunno..

 

[Hoss]

You don't need a complete protein source in every meal, that's a myth. If you eat incomplete protein every other meal you won't ever notice a difference. The idea is that you can't JUST eat rice day in and day out, but rice and beans is A okay

 

[blackbeard]

I would only be worried about this if I was a vegetarian or only ate nuts. .

 

[Short Fuse]

This is still the same train of thought.

Only animal products contain complete proteins and you would need to eat a variety of other foods to complete the protein chain in a nut.

Incorrect, Quinoa, a grain, is a complete protein.

 

[Karky]

there are exceptions to every rule. Yes, even this one, as there are some rules without exception.

 

[~LV~]

Incorrect, Quinoa, a grain, is a complete protein.

This is true - good point.

Never tried the stuff or know anyone that eats it. Most of my grains/carbs do not include all of the amino acids to be complete.

 

[malkore]

I've also seen some debates that soy protein has a complete amino profile.
I never dug deeper on it cuz i'm just not a fan of soy protein. my fake sausage crumbles I add to my morning wrap once or twice a week is all the soy i ingest.

 

[blackbeard]

The problem with soy protein is the female hormone estrogen. I read somewhere that

it is child abuse to feed a baby soy formula. A baby fed soy will receive, through the phytoestrogens, the equivalent of approximately 5 birth control pills per day! The damage is incalculable.

 

[Short Fuse]

This is true - good point.

Never tried the stuff or know anyone that eats it. Most of my grains/carbs do not include all of the amino acids to be complete.

It's really tasty, similar to cous-cous, and very healthy.

It's quite hard to find, but if you see any, I encourage you to try it.

 

[Hoss]

The problem with soy protein is the female hormone estrogen. I read somewhere that

Consistent ingestion of phytoestrogens in developing males has shown to lower testosterone levels later in life. But after puberty has been reached, research shows no correlation between phytoestrogens/soy and decreased testosterone or increased estradiol. IMO some soy is definitely part of a balanced diet, but intake should be limited to <50g/day.