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edisraw

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OK so this is diary number three for me. Hopefully I can get past 2 posts on this baby, but lets give it a go, I have official height and weight for me.

Lets see Im 23, 6'7" and 389 lbs. my highest was 400 and some odd pounds, and i started 394 about 10 days ago.

Essentially I have a pretty simple plan, Caloric intake cut to between 1200-1900 a day to confuse the metabolism and not go into pure starvation mode i'll probably be eating closer to 1900 3-4 days out of the week and on the lower end of the calorie scale 2-3 days of the week.

One cheat day every two weeks where i can eat up to 2800-3500 calories in that day.

Exercise very moderate at first 20-40 minutes of walking my dog lightly to briskly...as long as im sweating it should be good. within the next 2-3 months i wanna work it up to 45-90 minutes of steady brisk walking a day "possibly broken into 2-3 sessions a day, and also adding in some light weight training and calisthenics I.E. Sit-ups, girl push-ups, crunches. jumping jacks, and within 9-12 months I should be running, lifting, and doing REAL hard training.

I have to be very careful with myself because if I push to fast and make myself overly sick or unhappy i'll just quit, because thats my nature.

Short Term Goals: lose 50 pounds in the first 3-4 months.

Long Term Goals lose 140 pounds in the next 12-18 months

Today is going to be a low food intake day I gots me some Siegel cookies that are like 90 cals a pop, some diet green tea, and since its like 90 plus degrees here I think I'll X the walking for now or at least weight til it cools down later tonight and just eat grilled chicken and maybe a smart one microwavable dinner for dinner, all and all taking in around 1200-1400 calories for the day.

My diet isn't really structured outside caloric intake and I dont plan it to be that at least not until i start training with weights and what not...but I am staying away from the A DUH products, like candy and potato chips, and non diet sodas, or sugar drinks masquerading as juices.

According to yesterday I took in about 1925 calories...but most of that was the fact I mistook non-diet iced tea as diet iced tea and drank like four glasses of it adding up to like 320 calories. :smilielol5: The Day before that i had a similar set back when i went ahead and ate a whole small dominos pepperoni pizza (no mistaking that), but i am an addict and expect a fall back or two....surprisingly with that and 2-3 cans of pepsi and the other stuff I had that day it was only 2400 calories, which is still negative calories compared to my old ogreish eating habits.

I think given my young age and real want to lose weight I can not only do this weight loss thing but reach all my goals.

Wish me luck, give you comments or views on my plan or whatever the hell you wanna say on the bottom and have a nice day.
 
edisraw, overall, it sounds like an okay plan, but here are a few things
to take into account:

1) your daily calorie intake at your current weight should be around 3500
to 4000 per day. Those numbers you wrote are way to low.

2) the calorie shifting idea with the low calorie days and higher calories
day is an advanced strategy and should be used when you start getting
closer to your weight goal.

The best approach for you would look something like this:

1) drink a lot of water, and very few beverages that have a sugar in them,
this includes juices.

2) eat 4000 calories per day, divide this daily intake into 5 meals, and eat
each meal every three hours during the day! That would be 800 calories
per meal. Anything lower is going to shock the s**t out of your organism,
and that is the last thing you want if you have a real desire to reach that
goal you set for yourself.

3) for each meal, imagine your plate divided into six parts, and for each meal
create your meals using these proportions, 2/6 lean protein/fish/or shellfish,
2/6 vegetables, 1/6 fruits, 1/6 starchy carbs (potato, brown rice, oatmeal)

...for each food you can eat whatever you like in that category

4) start your walking slowly, about 10 minutes every day, and then slowly
increase your duration by about 5 minutes per week, per session, until
you reach 60 minutes. At that time you should start doing double-daily
cardio, once in the morning before breakfast, and once in the evening
before your last meal of the day.

5) use weight training three time per week, and to get an idea of exercises
look in the exercise section of this forum, or youtube

...this approach can help you to go from where you are right now, all the way
to reaching your ideal weight.

...and three times per week, for the first meal of the day (which should be
eaten as soon as you wake up, and never skipped) you can have a cheat
meal, of whatever food you really like, but eat it in moderation.

...simply make this breakfast smaller in size (50% of regular, so about 400
calories) and to it add whatever you like.

...for example for my three weekly cheat meals I eat cheesecake, brownies,
or whatever my mother-in-law or my wife prepared.

P.S. make sure that you spend time on reasearching about proper nutrition,
and find the healthy foods that you like, and that you will keep eating for
the rest of your life, because if you go back to eating to the way you ate
before, the weight that you will lose will eventually creep back on.

later, hope this helps!
 
Thanks for your input, sir. But i've been going over low calorie diets in my research, and talked to my doctor and he was totally ok with those amounts of calories...and i've already noticed good changes, im still eating 5 meals a day like you said they are just smaller then you would probably suggest, and i'll be sure to up my calorie intake if I ever begin to feel weak or dizzy or just plain unhealthy but ever since I started this i've felt better than I have in months i've been studying this plan for a while its not like I just woke up 10 days ago and wrote it all down, its extreme to some and its hard for others but im tired of these diets and exercise plans that just jerk me around with the lose 2 pounds a week, etc etc,

im going to get some fast results and worry about maintaining once my goals are reached. I hope you can understand where I am coming from but unless you were ever morbidly obese yourself I doubt you can (and i mean that as respectfully as possible).
 
So yesterday I ended up taking in about 2000 calories, about 2000 less then I was taking in about 2 weeks ago, so far so good.
 
edisraw said:
Thanks for your input, sir. But i've been going over low calorie diets in my research, and talked to my doctor and he was totally ok with those amounts of calories...and i've already noticed good changes, im still eating 5 meals a day like you said they are just smaller then you would probably suggest, and i'll be sure to up my calorie intake if I ever begin to feel weak or dizzy or just plain unhealthy but ever since I started this i've felt better than I have in months i've been studying this plan for a while its not like I just woke up 10 days ago and wrote it all down, its extreme to some and its hard for others but im tired of these diets and exercise plans that just jerk me around with the lose 2 pounds a week, etc etc,

im going to get some fast results and worry about maintaining once my goals are reached. I hope you can understand where I am coming from but unless you were ever morbidly obese yourself I doubt you can (and i mean that as respectfully as possible).
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I have never weighed 400 pounds, my maximum was 285. This was 16 years
ago, and the reason I reached that weight in the first place was because
I wanted fast results, and used low-calorie results for 8 years.

And during this time, I went from 185 pounds to 285.

It is only when I started following a plan that a proffesional trainer in a gym
suggested, that I started to lose weight. In one year I lost 110 pounds of
unwanted body fat in one year. I have been able to maintain that weight
for the last 15 years. And I was born with an extreme endomorph dominant
body type, and have a naturally slow metabolism (very slow, in fact).

Now, as far as doctors, it is a good idea to listen to them in some cases,
but from my research, they don't really learn in school about weight loss,
and mostly learn how to write prescriptions or suggest surgery as a way to
solve health problems.

So, if you want "real advice" and not just an opinion, then make sure that
you go see a very good dietician, and if possible someone that was
recommended as being an excellent one, one that LOVES his or her job!!!

...and I guarantee that he or she will tell you exactly what I wrote above,
because those steps are the basics and fundamentals of proper nutrition
and exercise that effectively produces PERMANENT FAT LOSS.

I want the best for you, and I really hope if you don't believe me that you
will go to a person that is a specialist in the area of helping people to burn off
unwanted body fat, and not simply lose scale weight!!!
 
edisraw said:
im tired of these diets and exercise plans that just jerk me around with the lose 2 pounds a week, etc etc,
I might be reading this wrong, but what I'm hearing here is that 2 pounds a week feels too slow for you. In general, that is actually a healthy rate of loss, but a more accurate number is 1% of your body weight a week. So, about 3.8 pounds a week for now, but that will slow as you lose weight.

One thing to keep in mind though, don't go extream and try to lose the weight as fast as you can. When the body loses weight, it loses both fat and muscle mass. Eating enough protein and exercising will help keep your lean muscle mass, but if you lose too fast, you will burn off more muscle than fat. I don't think you want that!
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mizzie said:
edisraw said:
im tired of these diets and exercise plans that just jerk me around with the lose 2 pounds a week, etc etc,
I might be reading this wrong, but what I'm hearing here is that 2 pounds a week feels too slow for you. In general, that is actually a healthy rate of loss, but a more accurate number is 1% of your body weight a week. So, about 3.8 pounds a week for now, but that will slow as you lose weight.

One thing to keep in mind though, don't go extream and try to lose the weight as fast as you can. When the body loses weight, it loses both fat and muscle mass. Eating enough protein and exercising will help keep your lean muscle mass, but if you lose too fast, you will burn off more muscle than fat. I don't think you want that!
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So I went to that nutritionist like the guy i wa a jerk to told me too, and she gave me some awesome advice.

1. Start keeping a food journal (pretty universal)
2. Eliminate, soda (even diet)
3. Try brewing your own (unsweetend) iced tea
4.Increase water intake, at least 6 glasses a day
5. get some pots and pans so I can cook for myself lol
6. Eat stir fries they are easy to make, and easy to make healthy.
7.Check out cooking lights (not a plug lol) website for recipes
8. Try Kashi bars, Cliff bars, and greek yoguart for snacks (among a much longer list of things)
9. Eat every 3-4 hours 5-6 times a day about 350-500 calories per meal (about 2500-2750 calories a day)
10. Start walking for my exercise 30-90 minutes a day 5 days a week, then add in calisthenics and weight training as you continue to lose weight.
11. Eat slower much much slower
12.Chew 25-30 times a bite (depending on the food obviously i wont be chewing yogurt 30 times a bite.)
13. Incorporate vegtables in your diet Ideally your plate for your MEALS (breakfast, lunch, and dinner) should look like this 1/2 Veggies, 1/4 protein, and 1/4 carbs.


So after my first check in with the lady in six weeks i'll tell you my weight my official starting weight was 393 lbs. ( yikes thank god im 6'5") and my next update should be around then but until then I might be using this as my food journal given im around the interwebs at the time starting July 9th (I've been saying goodbye to the food I love these last few days same goes for my beloved beer and weed)

Stayed tuned I assume.
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So I saw this survey on many other diaries so I figure fill it out.

How much weight do you want to lose? Long term 150-170 pounds, short(er) term 90-100 pounds

What is the timeframe for reaching your target weight? Long term 18-26 months, short(er) term 9-12 months

How do you want to accomplish your goal (what methods do you want to use)? Diet lifestyle change diet where on a regular basis I eat healthy things and drink water and can go out to eat once in awhile with out feeling guilty about it, with walking walking walking also weight training.

Who or what can support you in reaching your goal? This forum and my dieticain i assume lol

How realistic is your goal? Moderate to high

When will you start? When I go shopping tomorrow.

1. What is your current height and weight? OK after ballparking everything my official stats from july 2nd are 6'5" and 393 pounds
2. If you were at an ideal weight now, what would that weight be? 240 pounds
3. At what weight would you like to be at four months from now? hopefully like 350

4. Why do you want to lose weight? To be able to do the things I love again easily and not die from weight related issues at the very least.

5. Do you want to lose weight for a specific life event such as wedding or reunion? Not as such no.

6. What obstacles could get between you and your weight loss goals? My undying laziness.

7. Why do you think that you now have a weight problem? Because my activity level stopped after high school but my food intake didn't adjust if anything it jumped severely , and some other mental episodes led me to sheltering myself in my house for nearly a year and gaining a massive amount of weight.

8. What lifestyle changes do you think would help you lose weight? Stop overeating. No more junk food. Taking the dogs for walks everyday! Workout routine. (Shout out to the chick I got this survey from for having the same answer as me)

9. Have you lost weight in the past? If so, what has worked in the past to help you lose weight? I lost and gained weight All the time but i was just perpetually active, it didn't seem that way but I really really was I walked constantly with friends and did things little things that after my issues began i stopped.

10. Why do you believe that you did not lose weight or you gained the weight back? Not doing anything pretty much ever.

11. What, if anything, has not worked for you in the past in helping you to lose weight? Why do you think it did not work? The low calorie diet depicted in the first post of this diary.

12. Would you try writing down all food and drink consumed for a given period of time? I really dont want too, but im going to try.

13. Do you cook at home often? If so, what do you cook? NO, but im gonna have to start.

14. How often do you go out to eat? Where do you go? About once a week I go to some crappy chain restaurant (Fridays, Red Robins, applebees, chillis, old country buffet) and then go to the bar after which is like a second meal worth of whiskey and stuff.


15. What are your three favorite foods? Pizza, General Tso's Chicken, and all fish in all its forms.

16. What are your three favorite restaurants? Fridays, Old Country Buffet, and Chillis

17. What are three things you can do differently when it comes to food? No more processed crap, no more binge eating, no more soda

18. If you woke up tomorrow and your body was exactly the way you want it, what would be different? Id have a small gut, toned limbs and an all around healthier look.

19. Do you eat when you are not hungry? 90 percent of the time, no but sometimes I do.

20. Do you binge eat (large amounts at a time)? yup

21. Do you hide your food or eat in secret? yea

22. Do you eat when you are sad, nervous, or depressed? Not that i've noticed but probably.

23. Do you eat as a reward? yea

24. Do you eat while watching TV or using the computer? Yea

25. What do you normally eat for a meal? Pizza, chinese food, weird random things like a soft baked pretzel, a doughnut, and 4 cheesesticks lol

26. What type of snacks do you eat? Crap

27. In terms of exercise, what, if anything, are you currently doing? Nothing but im going to start walking my dog very very soon, and also im getting a weight bench.

28. Where do you go for exercise? My house and neighborhood

29. What, if anything, are your three favorite types of exercise? SWIMMING (how i want a pool), walking, and eating really really fast.

30. What is your daily/weekly/monthly/yearly motivation to move towards your goals? All the weight I've seen people lose and just knowing its not impossible.


31. Do you have rewards for certain goals? Im probably going to smoke some pot after I lose my first 100 pounds maybe do some acid or something, I know people might frown upon that but I dont really care.
 
Man, I suck I probably weigh bout the same as i ever did I dont see how I could have lost weight. I have 3 weeks til my next Nutritionists appointment, hopefully I can lose some pounds by then.

I have a rash on my left leg and im getting intermittent claudication (Leg pain upon walking) in that same leg almost on that exact area, it doesn't seem swollen but since its a sign of a DVT, or POAD (Granted im 23 and doubt I have this and think its more of a muscle thing.) I will probably be going to the doctor this week see if I can get into the exericse habit again, with his blessing (With my luck first time I hit a treadmill I'll through a blood clot.).

Right now my weight loss has to be just all about food intake which I constantly keep failing on....(Taking in upwards of 1800 calories in a meal, eating mega meals opposed to small ones, and just generally eating garbage food.) I have horrible binge eating jags.

Somewhere in my head, there is still that voice that is telling me "You got this big pretty easily so if you quit talking about it and just follow the gnerally simple guidelines your nutritionist gave you, you are going to be ok." and as long as that doesn't fade i wont resign myself to any fate as of yet...but I need this leg to feel better thats for sure.


Signing out, good luck to everyone else until next time, Ed
 
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