New here, please help!

Polyphile

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Hello!

I stumbled onto this forum after resolving to finally take control of my weight this year. I'd really, really appreciate anyone who is similar to me (or just knows a lot about weight loss) to help me!

I'm a 17 year-old male and I weigh around 206-209 lbs. I eat what I consider (generally) to be a healthy diet; I've never been a huge junk food person, and in the past year I mostly cut out soda and other non-fruit beverages. There's a lot of unique things about me and my situation, so please read on, if you'd like. :) I think it's a necessary background, but if you want to skip it, please do.

The Long Story

I always remember myself a little pudgy, but I was never obese (or at least became extremely self-conscious about it) until I was around 13. I never had a flat stomach or anything like that, like most of the other kids did, but I was not heavy. In fact, I played tennis for 3 years, and I was an active participant in a summer playground program with tons of physical activity, and I was in pretty good shape then.

I don't really know *when* it happened, but I somehow got up to my present weight when I was around 14. I had stopped playing tennis by then (broken arm, but I won't get into that!) and my physical activity pretty much dropped to 0.

Then I weighed in at 218 lbs at the doctor's in June 2007 (16 years old). I'm a tad below-average height (~5' 8'') for my age and sex, though still growing, so my weight is not good. I resolved I would no longer keep living my life feeling so separated from the other kids. However, I've never really had a capacity to lose weight normally as other kids might.

Why? Well, the answer is I'm homeschooled. And I'm a intellectual, not a big sports man, from a rather big sports family, and we eat out a lot. So, aside from that tennis stint, I've never had the easy opportunity (or the desire, nor the time) to play consistently in sports teams. When I was entering in my teen years, I had no physical activity aside from the occasional basketball game or something like that.

This is not an excuse. However, there's no denying it's a big problem for keeping in shape. To be honest, I'd probably have the same problem if I were public schooled, because I see tons of homeschooled kids in shape and tons of public schooled kids out of shape. But, anyway, moving on! :D

Since that appointment I totally cut out soda except for eating out or special occasions. I replaced that, and gradually am replacing iced tea, with water. I often drink four or more 500 mL bottles a day.

I don't think I really let anyone know how much my weight affects me emotionally. I've never really been picked on, because my weight doesn't really show as a huge stomach, but I have been the butt of a few recently - which is fine. But I think the thing that bothers me the most is the little jokes that people don't mean anything by; ones that assume I'm a certain way because I'm overweight, for example "Wow, you're not on the computer?" or "We're talking about sports; but you wouldn't care about that.". What they don't know is that I'm not on the computer a whole lot, and that I habitually watch baseball. Anyone who's gone through this knows what I mean. Don't get me wrong, I don't go home and cry about it, but there have been times when I've felt so ostracized from the rest of my friends who have no (apparent) issues with their weight, and I so desperately do. What bothers me the most is that I finally realize people notice my weight. The friends that I have are true friends, but they're also skinny friends... and that just makes me feel abnormal.

After that phase I fell into a few fads (say that 10 times fast!). I first tried the juicing fad. While I did feel better, my parents quickly grew tired of spending so much money on fruit, particularly organic ones (although I did convince them to always buy organic milk, thank God!).

After that, I turned to the South Beach Diet. My mom, who was a member of Curves, and her sister had great effects through that diet with exercise, so I figured I'd give it a try. I also ran on our exercise bike for ~30 minutes about 3 times a week.

I fended off the cravings of carbs for almost all the two weeks of the first phase, and I got to my lowest weight to date: 199 lbs. I felt so proud of myself. However, when I phased some bread and other carbs back into my diet, problems occurred. Whether it was coupled with a stomach illness or a lack of fiber intake, my stomach became upset and I was vomiting for about a week. So, I stopped the South Beach Diet and went back to my normal eating, and I've been fine ever since. I wish I would have kept going, but I'm too scared to go back to it. I don't know the cause of my stomach illness, whether it was from the lack of fiber or just some food poisoning, but I don't want to take any chances. However, this episode did end well: I still have lost 10 lbs. total in under a year, doing not a whole lot, and that's great. Also, due to my digestive difficulties, I incorporated whole grain, old-fashioned oatmeal into my diet.

Gradually my weight worked its way back up to 207 lbs. Up until about mid-January, I was still riding the exercise bike at least twice a week, but with no results. Then I came upon the next phase: the 12 Second Sequence by Jorge Cruise. I did this consistently for about four weeks. However, I lost no weight, although I do feel I've lost a bit of my stomach, and perhaps built some muscle. But still, the psychological factor of doing all that work and not losing any weight discouraged me, and I lost interest in the workout (especially as it basically required you, in the later stages, to go to a gym - just no!).

The Shortish-story
So, for the past two weeks or so, I've done no exercise at all, and I'm back up to 209 lbs. Now, the good news is - and this is something I'm still proud of - that I've lost about ten net lbs. since June of last year! However, the bad news is that I was down to having lost 20 pounds, but rebounded. I still have tons of hope, and I feel my body could quickly get into shape if only I found a way to stay on a consistent, and a beneficial, exercise regiment.

These are my goals:

  • I want to be able to take my shirt off in public. This is something I haven't done since I was eleven. I hate my stomach, and I always wear a shirt when I go into a pool or the ocean - which probably looks worse, I know, but at least then maybe people will think it's just the shirt looking ridiculous, not me...
  • I don't want to build tons of muscle. I'd be entirely content with being thin with lean muscles like many of my friends are. I want to have a little muscle, but I don't want to look like a jock, and, once again, I want to be an average, lean, teenager. I think you know the type - guys who have been thin their entire lives but have built a bit of muscle. I'd provide pictures, but I don't exactly feel safe searching for "lean teenage male" on Google. :p

    My body type is between light and medium, and I know it's not built to be heavy. My dad had a very thin build before he became overweight, and other genetic factors do not point towards large-bodied types. However, I accept that looking like someone who was never overweight is probably unrealistic. I just really, really don't want to look like a weight-builder. I know, this sounds like something a girl would say about building her muscle, and I can't explain why I don't want to have large muscles, but I guess it's just that I don't want to be large - whether it's with fat or muscles. So, is getting into shape without building huge, bulky muscles possible for guys?
  • I'd like to get down to about 170 lbs, in time for next June. I originally wanted to do it by this June, but that failed. I want to take my shirt off at the shore and not feel fat or ashamed, and especially I don't want to wear a shirt in the ocean.
  • A more short-term goal is getting in shape for this summer. I hope to be playing baseball habitually with some friends on a team, and this is, obviously, a great opportunity to get some exercise! Though I'm fine with the physical side of doing this, I would like to lose some weight by then and get into a good program, so I can increase the weight loss while I'm playing the sport.

These are my questions:

  • I can usually hide how overweight I am by sucking in my gut (it's not really that big, since a lot of the weight is spread around my body), but the one thing I can't hide is my face and neck. I hate my neck so much. Out of everything, I would change my neck. It has very little form, and makes me look like I have no chin. You can't see my Adam's apple unless I lean my head back at a tight angle. One again, I don't think this is genetic, as old pictures of my dad, mom, grandparents, etc. showed they always had normal well-defined necks (although they're rather different now). Is there any advice to get rid of such neck fat, or will that come from general weight loss? Is there any way to help target this area?
  • What about all the diets and things I did before? If you didn't read "The Long Story", I've done varying levels of South Beach Diet, 12 Second Sequence, basic aerobic exercises on a bike, and juicing. None of these diets are particularly focused at teenagers, I know, but are they even safe for us? No one's really answered my question before, so I don't know.
  • What should I do? Please, if there was anyone like me, or if there is anyone like me, please, please offer me some advice on what I should be doing.

Whew. Thanks for reading all that. Hopefully I typed off a few calories, hm? :p If this is in the wrong place (maybe advanced weight loss?), I'm sorry! Thank you so much, and I hope that by this time next year I'll be in your position helping others with weight loss!
 
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Well hey there fella. Let me start by saying No, I did not read you're lengthy diatribe although I appreciate the work put into it. That 110% attitude will do you wonders. Secondly, I'm new to the forums like yourself. I'm a little older, 22, roughly the same height/weight ratio you got going on for yourself. 225 at 6'1 for reference. You know right off the bat I can hand you some advice, that you can take (if you don't like it, throw it right back). Being home-schooled (okay, I skimmed your diatribe) may be a big part to why your unhappy with your rotund figure. I don't know if your working, but waking up in the same home your spend your day learning sounds to me like a rather sedentary lifestyle, and eating out a lot certainly doesn't help. You should take some time to see how awful most restaurants can be, it will be enlightening and change your attitude about food...sorry I don't have link but you can probably just google, worst restaurant foods, restaurant nutrition, or something of that sorts. Addicts are instructed to change their lifestyles when they plan to get healthy - they need to isolate themselves from people and places that hang over their shoulder with temptation (one of my biggest shortcomings for getting healthy is my friends and lifestyle). To sum up what I'm trying to say is, people who want to lose weight need to consider themselves addicted to their (assumable) sedentary lifestyles. Start thinking about how big of commitment this is going to be for you. I've quit drinking and smoking and spend a few days a month with friends rather than every other day...that's my commitment. I've done my homework for what will be probably one of the hardest journeys of my lifetime (getting fit and sexy, etc.) so I can tell you what to expect:

1. Lifestyle temptations can hinder your progress.
2. If you're dieting (this is highly recommended) prepare with withdrawal symptoms from your favorite foods. The first couple weeks I find are always the hardest, at some point it becomes obsessive - all you think about is a delicious burger with bacon and an entire wheel of cheese, deep fried and covered in pure lard.
2a. At a psychological level, carbs give the pleasure center of your brain a jolt every time to eat. Unfortunately, carbs are also the reason you may be unhappy with your body (among some other things). PREPARE FOR THIS. I've heard stories of people going on mood swings and totally flipping out like a roid rage. Factoid: I hear if you're bipolar or manic depressant, cutting out carbs actually helps your condition stabilize.
3. Just go to the fucking gym. The day that you hesitate to go, and then rationalize an arbitrary reason no to go means you're already telling yourself you can't do this. Even when you HAVE NO IDEA what to do, just go to the gym or wherever it is you plan to workout. If it's your home, I STRONGLY suggest you find somewhere else to go. If you just go to the gym, just walk around if nothing else, it settle your nerves and help you feel like you can this. I would start running...its the best way to lose weight in my opinion. I lost 20 LBs in a month just by running 20-30 minutes a day on a low-cal diet.

You can do it man. You're in the right place. Good luck.
 
Wow, to be 17 again. I have to tell you that you are a lot more on the ball than I was at your age. So here's to you for your continuing journey. There is not alot of magic to it, and you have most of the facts.

1. stay active, it will never be as easy as it is right now, tennis is great, running, do lots of cardio, get that heart pumping. It will tone what you have without building huge muscles. That is what I had as a teenager, and am now fighting off the fat that it bacame when I got out into the real world and got a job behind a desk.

2. cutting out sodas is great, good job, they are empty calories. eat lots of fruits and veggies, high grains with lots of fiber, reasonable amounts of protein, and low fat, wherever you can.

3. don't worry about yesterday, just keep your goals at the front of your mind, know what you want to be like and aim there. Don't let fads get in your way. The problem with fad diets is when they go out of style, we get fat again.

4 Stay here. In this forum, it gives you somone to be accountable to, and we don't care if you backslide, or gain slightly, and we will always be here to comfort, advise, and celebrate your journey.

Check out the threads for exercise advise, and new recipes to keep things fresh. You might want to start a diary here.

Good luck, and welcome,

Brian
 
Wow, thanks DroppingTheLBs and Brian! I had no idea I'd get a response so fast (and that there were people in my same boat).

Firstly, to DroppingTheLBs, one thing that was in my long story section was that I did do phase I of the South Beach Diet to the T, so I know how it can be to conquer carbs. I only stopped because my digestive system didn't appreciate Phase II of the diet, or I just got a food illness from a salad or something. *shrug* I don't know. If you think it would be beneficial, maybe I'll go back on the South Beach Diet, because up until now I've kind of been scared to do so.

At any rate, thanks a lot for the suggestion of looking up those restaurants! I never thought to do that. The worst offenders are usually local Italian restaurants, though at a number of restaurants I'm able to get fish and broccoli and things like that - but that doesn't matter much if I eat four rolls!

I have to admit, too, the lifestyle thing you mentioned does make sense. Make no mistake - I'm often out doing something with my friends (sometimes physical activity) at least on average twice a week. But still, I can get up, walk four feet to my desk, and do school/computer/gaming all day (not that I do, but if I get off track for a few minutes in the beginning of the day I screw myself up). I've been thinking of certainly requiring that the first thing I do each day is either exercise on the bike or make a good breakfast. I think I'll do that.


And to Brian also, thanks! I fear I'll have some of those problems once I get a job or go to college. I have problems finding time just doing the stuff I do at home (school), and I can't imagine how much I'll procrastinate when I actually get a regular job and go to actual classes. :p


Thanks a bunch, everyone! I'm actually leaving today for a trip to the shore (temptation city for food, ugh). So, I won't be back until Sunday. Until then I have a few more questions (and some I want to restate :p).


Can weight training be used to build muscles that won't make me huge? All I hear is that it does this for women, but none of the books I've read ever assume that a man doesn't want to bulk up. I have several weights and I use them, and I do enjoy the burn from it.

Also, as I hinted at before, do you think I should restart Phase I of South Beach? I have no doubt I could handle it, but I don't want to get sick again (though it may have just been totally coincidental), and I always fear how I'm going to eat after the Phase II ends. I know, dieting should lead into a lifestyle change, and I can do that, and have done that to an extent. But it always scares me that I'm just gonna lose weight and get it right back as I fade more away from the program.


Once again, thanks guys! I think I'll be around here for a long time. :) When I get back from the shore I will start my new life. In fact, I think I'll go on the bike right now too.
 
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Hey Welcome to the WLF!

As far as the South Beach Diet.. I tried it too..and once I came off it I gained all the weight back, which was only twenty pounds, so it doth suck, but true. Fad diets don't work, they just make you gain the weight back and possibly more..

its all about what you eat, when you eat it, and moderation. And definately exercise. I eat decent, although sometimes I binge, but I learning how to eat. I think I finally have the key, I have lost 44 pounds so far. ITs been a long road, but you can do it!

Just keep trecking and try to incorporate more movement. Don't live a sedentary life style. u know .. maybe get some dvds out there. Tae Bai... or however you spell it lol and they have boot camp ones ..you can do those inside..and when your mother and father are away if you dont feel comfy doing them in front of them, which most of us dont ..you can do those ...

I did some of my pilates dvd and thought I was going to fall .. My legs hurt so bad, I almost couldnt hold the pose and I am definitely in better shape than I was last year. I walk everyday.

Walking is a great way to go hun
Walking can really do alot.... all these 44 pounds I have lost is JUST from walking ..first I started with fifteen mintues, twenty and than twenty five ..adding five every week, sometimes with in a week and now I walk 42 minutes. There is no pain when I walk and its way too easy now. I am going to add jogging in, which I suggest when you become healthier and walking becomes easy, just jog down hills at first, which I will be doing in April.

but seriously its eating habits and exercise. No real diet, its a lifestyle change ... Think of yourself on a journey..a challenging journey and realize that this can be done and just do it ..sure you will have your set backs.. it happens to all of us ..or we lose our motivation ..but as soon as we get our groove back we jump right back on the bandwagon

when you are out order tea or water, water preferably, try to order something smart, even a salad loaded with protien ..protien fills you right up to the point you arent hungry till lunch .. I have three eggs in the morning around nine forty five .. I have a set time I eat everyday and I have fruit and yogurt for snacks

its really simple ..its just learning when and how to eat ..how much to eat ..what you should eat ..which you can eat most anything ..u know .. I have whole wheat Rye bread ..but I figure sandwhichs are like finger food ..so I have a small bowl of cereal for lunch ..which is where I get my calcium ..but its cherrios with fruit ...

so you can do this ..
no fad diets required ..best to do it with out a fad diet

read all the sticky threads in the different forum boards and threads ... read some diaries and learn what other peeps are doing ..
u know ..
create a diet for yourself ..so you can gain support from others ..peeps will stop by and respond to what you write and make a post on your diary ..it can be a lot of fun losing weight ..and exercise can be thrilling ..there are some challenges ..like the March 2 pounds a week challenge ..well they will have on for April too ..always do ..for every month .. join it ..its fun ..even if you dont lost two pounds a week its all good ... sometimes you only lose a few oz ..but thats a few oz less that you are ..think of it in oz ..too ..and be proud when you even lose one oz ..

good luck hun
best wishes
natalie jo :auto:
 
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