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alikat1205

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I have hit the wall. A year ago, I hit an all time high of 189. (I am a 5'8" female) I began weight watchers and lost 27 pounds! yay! however, that weight loss has stalled about 4 months ago. Two months ago, I started to add some moderate exercise. I began by walking 4 miles per day. I currently walk 4, run 2 more for 6 miles a day. I added low weights (10 pounds) and started with that. I recently, in the last 3 weeks, added push ups (only 20) and sit ups (again only 20) to the daily mix. Result? Nothing, nada, not one pound more will drop. I limit myself to 18 WW points per day. What am I doing wrong?
 
I am also looking for buddies, but wanted to chime in on your stalling question.

Back when I did WW I found I would hit plateaus, but if I "allowed" myself to eat the maximum a day or two, my body would then let go. Like it had gone into starvation mode. Have you tried this? It is worth a shot.
 
Hi Alikat1205,

I don't know too much about WW, and what 18 points would cover - could you show me an example of a days food intake?

To keep dropping fat content, your metabolism has to be cranking - and to get it cranking, you need to be consuming [the right] food - regularly. It's quite possible that the 18 points the WW program is allowing you has got you so far, but won't take you any further - maybe you need another diet revision, that will see you up your food intake a little, and up the exercise a little at the same time - that could be enough to get you over this hump.

The exercise you're doing sounds excellent - compound exercises that will do wonders for your muscles.

Post an example of your daily intake, and we'll go from there. :)
 
thank you for responding. here is an example of a typical day's diet:

breakfast:
one small bowl oatmeal with splenda --- 2 pts.

mid-morning snack
varies, but i keep the snack to 2 pts.
could be a 100 calorie package of cookies, or popcorn, or one banana.


lunch:
one can progresso soup (0 WW pts for one serving, but I eat 2 servings) 1 pt.
one package of 100 calorie wheat thins -- 2 pts.


mid-afternoon snack:
two pieces of reduced fat string cheese - 1 pt each -- 2 pts.
one apple -- 1 pt.

dinner:
grilled chicken salad with a balsamic dressing -- 4 pts.
one piece of toast (weight watchers bread) -- 1pt.

after dinner:
two weight watchers fudge ice cream bar (100 calories) --- 1 pt. each 2 pts.

this is a 17 pt. day, and sometimes i have an extra apple or two if i am really hungry. this diet was successful for me until i got down to 18 points (you start out at a different point and it goes down as you lose weight, so for example, i think i started at 22 or 23), the diets says no one should go below 18 points, but that isn't working for me, so i started working out too, but haven't gotten desired results with that either.

i am so frustrated that i stopped heading to the gym the last week, but i need to get motivated and i need to somehow lose this last bit of weight i want to drop. ideally, i would lose 20 pounds, but i'll be ecstatic with 10 at this point.
 
Hiya,

Just for the record, I'm no expert :)

But, I'd suggest you're not eating enough. Now that you're exercising, you really need to keep your intake (of good foods) up, so that your body actually has the fuel it needs to continue burning!

Keep up the compound exercises, and increase the sets that you're doing of them. If you're using the word 'only' before listing how many you're doing, then you probably feel you could do more...how do you feel after 20 pressups/pushups? If you're feeling OK, keep going - they're such a valuable form of exercise, and will definitely help.

In my opinion, I'd be looking at a) increasing your food intake a bit, and b) increasing the exercise as much as you can.

Hand-in-hand, those two things could make the difference. I think (think, not know :) ) that the diet has taken you this far, and that now it's time for some serious exercise to take you the rest of the way!

An expert opinion here would be good - Steve, I'm looking at you...:D

Keep us informed, and get that exercise cranking!
 
alikat1205,

If two points is 100 calories, you are having about 800 calories. You must be really short.

Chip
 
How many calories are in one point, is there a clear ratio?

Just looking at your foods, I'd say the opinions above are right... you're most likely not eating enough. Throwing exercise into the mix only worsens the situation.

Your body can only handle so much "stress."

Stress comes in many forms, but for the most part, your body handles it all the same. Examples of stress include:

- Dieting (you're deficient, energetically speaking)
- Exercise
- Job
- Freaking out about plateaus

When you're body's ability to manage stress is outpaced, funky things can happen. For instance, your body can hold the hell out of water which will really throw off accuracy of fat loss. While you might lose 1-2 lbs of fat in a month, you might be retaining 3-4 lbs of water which would completely mask any loss of fat.

That's why the scale isn't always an accurate tool for assessing fat loss. Which by the way, is what you should be most concerned with. Losing WEIGHT and losing FAT require two extremely different mindsets... and you should only concern yourself with the latter.

Another way your body can adapt once it's ability to handle stress is outpaced is screwing with metabolism. Various hormonal loops come into play such as insulin, thyroid, leptin, gherlin, peptide yy, etc all having an impact on metabolic rate and satiety.

I could ramble on and on, however the moral of the story is quite simple:

You have to manage stress according to a) your ability to handle it and b) your current environment.

As an example, think of your body's ability to manage stress a a 5 gallon bucket. You have some stress from everyday life which takes up a gallon. You're stressing about your weight which takes up another gallon. You're dieting which takes up another gallon.

Then, you cut calories (which has a powerful influence on all this) to a point that's very low given your stats, and you're adding 2+ gallons of stress to the bucket.

Once that things starts overflowing, the adaptations I discussed above start to show up.

B/c you stress more as time goes on about the scale, you throw exercise into the mix now to fight against the plateau. Unbeknown to you though, you're already overwhelming your "bucket" so adding more stress (exercise) is only worsening the situation.

So what do you do from here?

First we need to get a firm grasp of WW points and how they play out in terms of calories. Maybe WW isn't the right plan for you anymore... it has you too focused on points and not focused enough on real nutrition and providing your body with the right amount of energy (calories) for your body and environment. When is the last time you took a break from "dieting"?

Once we get those things figured out... alleviating some of the stress would be the logical progression. That would entail taking some rest from exercise and bumping up your food intake. We'll cross that bridge when we get there.

Also, an important question would be, how consistent are you with 18 points? Are you very rigid, as in, you don't eat more than that hardly ever? Even on weekends and such?

I only ask b/c the problem is one of two things:

1. You outpaced your body's stress management system, as mentioned above.

or

2. You're eating more than you realize or you aren't 100% consistent with 18 points every single day.

You could throw clinical issues into the mix too, like screwed up thyroid and such... but I wouldn't concern yourself with that just yet.

Sorry for the drawn out response.
 
I'd also say that in addition to not eating enough, you're not eating enough of the RIGHT things. Based on the example you gave, out of 18 points, 6 of them are junk. (2 100 cal snack packs and the ice cream). That means that 1/3 of what you're eating has no nutritional value.

When you're restricting your calories/points THAT much, you can't afford to waste calories on junk, much less waste fully 1/3 of your daily allowance on it.

Ditch the snack packs and the ice cream. Add in more protein and veggies.

Also, from what I know of WW (did it years ago), 18 points is NOT the maximum you're allowed for someone your height and weight. Are you using your activity points? Are you eating all of your extra weekly points? Those points are given to you for a reason - to keep you from undereating.
 
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