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Yes, yes, I've studied thermodynamics in school. I know what a calorie is. Simply, I don't think that the body is quite as clear cut as science would like to make it out, having experienced the fact that some people can eat what they want, when they want, and still not gain weight.

I know of people who can cut many calories from their diets, and still not lose.

I wouldn't say that I posess a great amount of naïveté, but I am one of those people who deign to accrue knowledge from personal experience.

Do you really think that science will be the same, for eternity? That new discoveries on nutrition and the nature of physics itself will never be made, and that, in time, those new theories will be rendered obsolete as well? Even science itself is not a proven thing, in fact, the best that we can come up with are hyptheses -- nothing is, has ever been, or ever will be, a surity.

And yes, perhaps I do laugh at the notion of science and logic, because in actuality, we know nothing :)

Very interesting. Very wrong, but very interesting. About the only think I agreed with you on is the fact that we know nothing. And science will surely change, thank the Lord.

Besides that pseudo nonsense you speak of (nonsense that I actually agree with), you speak nothing of solid fact. Did it ever cross your mind that we are each metabolically unique? And because of this, some people will be able to burn off calories very quickly, while others can not? A calorie is a calorie. Science has proven this. Energy is a very simplistic concept of thermodynamics that I am pretty sure will not change. You either use energy, or you store it. Nothing really left to discover.

How do you tie vegetarianism into this whole "concept" you have going on here. Somehow, meat makes you fat? You seem to be talking in circles.
 
Vegetarians do not necessarily lose weight!

One of my good friends became a vegetarian a year ago. In that year, she gained a good 20 pounds. She subsists off cheese and cheese, garlic, and more cheese! Of course she eats a lot of veggies too, but come on! They all have cheese on them! Just because she doesn't eat meat doesn't mean she's gonna be skinny or healthy. She more than makes up for the lost meat calories. I'm sure you eat better than she does if you are so thin, but honestly, let's remember that not everyone does vegetarian in the same way you do. Vegetarian does NOT equal thin. I'm glad you eat so much healthier than my friend though! Sounds like you take care of yourself much better.
 
I like how you argue against proven scientific evidence. Thats awesome.

Similar to saying gravity is really not what pulls us to the earth or Newtons laws are untrue.

Ive yet to see a muscular built vegetarian also. Meat is a great source of protein, undoubtedly the best. If you calculate protein into your diet (which you should) then you can gain or lose, depending on your goals.
 
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