Muscle vs Atkins

I've been lifting now for about 2 months. just reciently, over the last 3-4 weeks I've lost my appetite due to stress going on in my life right now (lost 10 lbs). I'm looking into the atkins diet since I'm not hungy for carbs anyways. lifting is something of my only escape, and is a great release of frustration. my question is if I can lift weights and still gain muscle while on the atkins diet? I'm not quite sure how important carbs are to muscle growth. BTW, I'm a chunky guy, I could stand to loose about 45+ lbs

you gotta take advantage of what you can. the glass is always half full ;)


one more question... is it possible to over do it with only 3 sets, but on the last set pushing your self to complete failure, and then some? I've read a lot on lifting, but not much on technique.

thank you!
 
you could eat like crap and still gain muscle. But I'm not a fan of the atkins diet. I am a fan of not eating processed foods however. Eat carbs, but make them complex carbs, eat meat, but make it lean meat, eat your veggies and fruits, etc, etc, etc... Use the basics that have been around forever rather than a fad
 
Since we're discussing the Atkins diet (sort of), it would be nice to get everyone's opinion, particularly those of you who are qualified in the area of nutrition. I read up on whatever I can where Atkins in concerned, partly because my sister-in-law is on it. I have read a lot about ketosis and gotten different info on it. There is a lot of controversy over this diet and its long term effects...anyone have any interesting info/opinions on this?

Thanks, appreciate it! I want my sister-in-law to stay healthy...
 
This was posted on my forum by Adam Campbell (fitness editor of Men's Fitness). I have been following this and really like the results so far.

1. Eat as many of these vegetables as you desire throughout the day.

Asparagus, broccoli, brussel sprouts, cabbage, carrots, cauliflower, celery, corn, cucumbers, egg plant, lettuce, mushrooms, onions, peppers, pickles, spinach, squash, string beans, tomatoes, zucchini. Of course, oil-based, low carb dressings are fine for dipping, steaming is great, as well as sautéing with garlic (fantastic for fresh spinach with olive oil).

2. Eat as much lean meat as you want: 90 percent lean beef, turkey, chicken, tuna, salmon (any kind of fish/seafood really). (You can eat bacon, ham, and fattier meat, too, but just for the sake of being politically correct, limit these to one to two servings a day.) Use low-carb marinades and rubs to add variety to things like chicken and beef.

3. Especially avoid high-carbohydrate snacks. That is, anything that would spike your insulin between meals. Instead eat pepperoni or cheese (or better yet, pepperoni sticks dipped in soft cheese! or tuna, etc. Also, eat at 1-2 servings of peanuts, almonds, sunflower seeds, and pine nuts per day (great snacks).

4. Allow yourself one to two servings (but only at ONE meal) of the following: whole grain/wheat bread, brown rice, sweet potato, oats/oatmeal (In other words, if you want a sandwich for lunch, eat it. If you like oatmeal for breakfast, eat it.)

5. Limit fruit intake to 2 servings a day. Choose from: strawberries, pears, peaches, apples, and grapes.

6. Have as much coffee (with cream or artificial sweeteners), diet soft drinks, and tea as you like.

7. Drink lots of water. Let's say 16 ounces ever two hours you are awake on top of other beverages.

8. Drink (roughly): 15 grams of protein, 45 grams of carbohydrate (high-glycemic like maltodextrin or dextrose) in 12 ounces of water--half 5 to 15 minutes before your workout, and the rest evenly divided every 15-20 minutes of your workout. (This is basically a "Nutrient Timing" principle.)

9. After your workout, drink 20 grams of protein and 20 to 40 grams of carbohydrate. (These numbers are debatable, but I think they'll do the job quite nicely.)

10. Eat eggs and plenty of cheese. Avoid milk most of the time. (If you love it, limit it to one serving a day.)

Does this make sense. You'll get plenty of carbohydrates but you'll time them correctly and you won't be eating the 'bad" ones when it counts. The idea is that you'll keep insulin levels low all day long (high insulin inhibits fat loss and promotes fat storage) except during your workout, when you'll use insulin to decrease protein breakdown. You'll also eat protein at the same time, to enhance protein synthesis. Plus, by eating before and during your workout, you can workout as intensely as you desire. So it's the best of both worlds: faster fat loss with more energy. In addition one problem with a pure fat loss ketogenic diet is that although you preserve muscle, you can look "flat" because of the reduced glycogen stores. This plan keeps your muscles looking full and feeling big. Basically, it's meat and vegetables. So you don't have the pasta and bread, but you really don't need it if you get creative enough with food preparation. I'd also recommend that if you can sneak a fiber supplement in during the day (BeneFiber or Metamucil) say, 30 minutes before you eat any meal in which you eat the foods that are in number four you'll enhance your results even more.
 
carbs arent your enemy

weight lifting = you need carbs
yes complex carbs ... essential.
you dont need a hellofalot of carbs ... but a moderate amount.
it does have its role in helping with building muscle... carbs help protein build and repair muscle... of course protein is the key ... but without carbs ... then protein has no little buddy to help him work at 100%.

and the atkins diet ... give me a break.
sure ... u burn fat fast ... get skinny ... have no energy.
then ... ur all happy because your lighter ... which u dont know is that you mainly just lost water and muscle .... and that once carbs are brought back into your diet (which u will want to do after u lost weight) ... ur gona gain gain gain.
its pretty much a diet for people who love shortcuts ... exept this shortcut wont bring ya home .. it will lead you in a circle right back where you started.
 
No offense but your statement isn't relative to my particular situation. True, you don't have as much energy due to the carbs loss, but that only lasts about a week. My first 3 days on the diet i lost 7 pounds, but i have a fast metabolism/athletic build to begin with.

i would suggest an Atkins/Cardio rutein at first.

then switch to high calorie/weight lifting ruinten once your at an ideal BF%.
 
There is one good thing about Atkins. Unlike other fad diets, you reintroduce carbs progressively into your diet until you find a balance where you are not losing anymore weight, but not gaining any either. Ideally, this would be the way you would eat for the rest of your life (should you wish to keep the shedded pounds off).

Sure, it's not a diet that I would recommend for someone doing heavy lifting, body building, powerlifting, etc. But for your average, moderately active individual wishing to change their exercise and eating habits, I think it can be a worthwhile option to explore.

I have read much about the diet, and spoken with a few people who are on it/have been on it....and this is the conclusion I have come to. It isn't a diet for everyone, but as stated previously, it is good for some. In fact, I would recommend Atkins much more then a major calorie-restrictive approach such as Weight Watchers. That being said, I think anyone following Atkins should be at least moderately active in order to eliminate the possible negative effects of the high-fat approach used in the inductive phase of the diet.

Just my 2 cents ;)
 
no atkins

few words ..
if your weightlifting .. then dont do atkins.
even tho there are many things wrong with atkins ... do wat u want to.
some ppl can lose the lbs fast with atkins ... factually, its mostly water. but like mogwai said .. its for some and isnt for some.
im not going to argue ne thing ... no point to.
research urself and reveal wat it really does.
cya
 
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