Muscle training for fat burning in rest

Dietrying

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Dear all,

I read that muscle training is good next to cardio for wait loss. In short, I guess the regeneration of muscles would need energy gained from fat reserves when the body is at rest, right?

My personal situation:
To lose weight (in addition to changing eating habits) I do both walking (running and walking altered to build up endurance) and (most of all): I cycle a lot (both longer distances and sprints) and I really push myself.

My question:
Where does cardio end and muscle training begin? I mean, I can feel that my legs worked pretty hard after I've cycled, but does this 'count' as muscle training/restoring just like weight lifting would, or is it different because it's mostly based on endurance?

I wanna know whether my cycling and walking is sufficient to lose weight or whether I should do more, because I hardly have time to go to a gym in addition to my other efforts.

Any information on this would be great!
 
Just get more active - burn more energy. Choose activities that you enjoy, and can carry on doing for some time - even post weight loss. Start to develop a new lifestyle based not only on weight loss, but also on better health and fitness. That is the secret to long term and healthy weight loss.

Having said that - a fitness expert might give you a program that will improve optimum fitness. Possibly a mixture of strength training, cardio, and recovery, with emphasis on intensity rather than on endless exercise. But if the gym doesn't suit you - then don't force it. There is a lot to be said for getting outside and enjoying life.

You might also find that your tastes in exercise change overtime - you should consider trying out new activities from time to time.

The difference in cardio and strength training - how I understand it, it is a difference between intensity and endurance. However, you can bring the benefits of intensity into your cardio by interval training. For example, sprinting for short periods, alternated with walking or gentle jogging.
 
Certainly, there are some ways of riding that are more optimal than others as far as building muscle and burning calories, but rest assured you are burning a lot on that bike.

A 12 mile bikeride at 15-17 mph pace burns, for example, about 500 cals. If you do interval training, you can optimize your workout. There's all kinds of stuff all over the internet about interval training, but basically, it's short bursts of high heart-rate activity (say, two minutes of high heart rate sprinting or hill climbing) followed by a few minutes rest. Over time, your intervals become longer and your rests shorter. It makes your heart stronger, your lung capacity better, giving you more access to oxygen, allowing your body to work more efficiently.

Also, make sure not to cut carbs too much as you need them for fuel for biking. Just consume the GOOD carbs.

And don't cut calories too much. Find out your maintenace and then cut by only a small percentage - you need fuel for your activity otherwise your body won't be good for that activity.

A woman I know planned a long ride with nothing to eat during the ride because she figured she had 40 lbs of fat to burn. She burned out, instead, halfway through the ride. You have to fuel.

I do weights once or twice a week to compliment the biking - I use advise given here by Leigh and Steve and the other experts. I've built up some nice useful strength.
 
Ok thanks for the replies!

Yeah, I actually have a heart beat monitor so I can keep track of my heart rate zones pretty well. I use this indeed for intervals, and it also calculates the amount of calories used. Very handy, and most of all: very motivating :)


Indigoiis, maybe you (or anyone else) can help me with another issue (I'm not sure if I should start a new thread for this):

I eat several times a day and I have the feeling I eat well. I especially watch proteins, but I have reduced calory intake as well compared to what I used to (over) eat.

Here's the thing: I train every day, up to 2x 50 mins average (walking and biking). The point is I don't have to force myself to go to it. I never feel tired or burned out afterwards. I mean, I do feel my muscles, but I just have a rewarding feeling that my body did some nice work. I now and then do take a day of rest of course. But mostly, the next morning I feel just as fit and I just go to it again.

Question: Given the amount of training, I probably burn a lot more than I take in. But I feel good. Is it possible to feel this good and still do something wrong, like burning fat too fast or eating wrong?

Secondly: I'm having summer break at the moment, so right now I have the time to train this much. When the vacation is over, I probably won't be able to train as much as I do now, but I plan to integrate it into my daily life as much as possible.

Question: Will reducing my training 'hours' make me gain weight if my body is accustomed to my current schedule? What is the best way to fill up this 'gap'? Would reducing calory intake be a good idea then? Or something else? Remember: I don't push myself to train this often, I do it because I feel like it and it makes me feel good.

Thanks!
 
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If you have to reduce your outdoor biking in the fall - and most of us do - take into account that in order to maintain or lose any more weight, you will have to balance out on the calorie intake side.

Find out your maintenance, and then make a plan. Your plan will need review occasionally. But it sounds like if you start out on the right track (and I think, based on what you've said, you are) then you shouldn't have any problem.

But it's sticking to the plan - that's the challenging part - knowing what you're putting in and putting out.

Also - just as an aside - have you considered training for an endurance event like a triathalon or a century ride? That will help you up your level of cycling (since you will have a goal to shoot for) and give you more oomph to your workout (and you will "feel" it.)

I highly recommend . It's a great reference book to own, and will answer a lot of your questions.
 
Ok great.

Does it matter that I'm not a woman for reading that book? :)

I don't want to train particularly for such an event yet, but I do have some other sports in mind I'd love to do.
 
Dear all,

I read that muscle training is good next to cardio for wait loss. In short, I guess the regeneration of muscles would need energy gained from fat reserves when the body is at rest, right?
Technically speaking, pretty much all physical activity is a form of muscle training. After all, your heart is a muscle iteself. For definition purposes, I'm assuming that by muscle training you mean strength training, and by strength training referring to resistance training. Notice how it is referred to as "resistance" training. It basically notes a very important aspect called intensity.

My question:
Where does cardio end and muscle training begin? I mean, I can feel that my legs worked pretty hard after I've cycled, but does this 'count' as muscle training/restoring just like weight lifting would, or is it different because it's mostly based on endurance?
Generally speaking, it would be phrased the other way around - "where does muscle training end, and cardio begin". I say this because muscle training (by the definition i made earlier - resistance training) is usually lower reps, whereas cardio is higher reps. Think about it, when you run, it is essentially performing an exercise that involves repeated reps successively, every step is a repetition. The general difference is in exercise that is aerobic or anaerobic (with or without oxygen), which is highly dependant on intensity. In aerobic training, the body is generally able to supply itself with enough oxygen to properly fuel the activity. In anaerobic, the reverse is the case: the body cannot supply enough oxygen to the cells that need it, and thus a different method for energy production must be used. Resistance training is usually designed to cause an anaerobic environment: a high enough intensity so that the body works hard enough. At this point I cant really say for sure whether or not the anaerobic effect has anything to do with increasing strength other than ensuring that there is enough intensity to force adaptation. If I remember correctly, most guidelines say that 15 reps is about where the difference between aerobic and anaerobic exercise happens. Of course, as I mentioned before, intensity is absolute key. Obviously, doing something very easy for 3 reps does not make it anaerobic activity. It is doing an activity that you physically cannot possibly sustain for more than 15 reps. In essence (and for the average non-elite athlete person) if you can do an activity for more than 15 reps (remember 15 is not a solid number, it does vary a little in each way from person to person), then that activity is probably aerobic, and will probably not increase your strength in terms of how resistance training does. So, the long winded and complex answer to your question is: On average, no your cycling would not be the same type of muscle training as weight lifting. Your cycle training would be a form of strength training referred to as strength-endurance, which is fairly self-explanatory. This is not the same as what most resistance based strength training (weight lifting) routines are designed for, and would not substitute for it.

I wanna know whether my cycling and walking is sufficient to lose weight or whether I should do more, because I hardly have time to go to a gym in addition to my other efforts.
Sufficient and optimal are certainly not the same thing. As it has been said time and again, weight loss comes from calorie reduction. Calorie reduction comes from either exercise or diet (or a combination of the two). The average overweight person can lose plenty of weight just from eating less, without doing any exercise at all. However, the average overweight person can start exercising for hours on end a day, and still gain weight if their calorie intake is still too high. My point is, if your diet is under control so that you are manipulating your calories towards your goal, then yes, cycling and walking would be "sufficient". Over time things get a little more complicated, as you approach your setpoint weight, as your body adapts to what you are doing, etc. If you are eating less than you are burning each day, for the most part you will continue to lose weight while you are still overweight. However, i would generally never recommend any plan that didn't incorporate weight training, as its benefits are far and wide and will make continuing weight loss much easier over the long run.

Hopefully this helps clear things up a bit, though i imagine throwing aerobic and anaerobic in there might make things more complex than desired, lol. There is also something to be said for cardio that is done anaerobically, as that introduces a different kind of strength training as well, but i dont think it is neccesary to get into that for the questions you have asked. To be honest, though I feel i have a decent grasp on those concepts, I dont know if i could properly explain them to someone else yet. I tried that in the past and people didn't understand what I was getting at, lol. Though, maybe people wont quite get what im saying here either, lol. but i feel my suggestions and the actual answers i have offered are accurate. good luck to you
 
Wow, that's some information you posted there! Thanks a lot!

I can hardly ask for more after your post, but if you do feel like explaining that anaerobic cardio part, please do. I'd appreciate it, though I can't promise I'll understand.
 
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