Multivitamins, depression and inadequate diet

fortyfour

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I suffer from depression and i take antidepressants for it. I don't feel depressed all the time but, I've just emerged from a bout of it. I think, but can't be sure, that starting to take a daily multivitamin might have helped. Given how bad my diet was for a few months, i think it could be significant.


During this last bout of depression, (which was fairly mild) i have been very inactive, and eaten shitloads of bad food such as icecream, chocolate and sweets. When i eat these foods i go off healthy foods altogether. Partly because i am too full or satisfied to want to eat anything sensible and partly because I just lose the taste for simple healthy food. I also have a strong aversion to cooking and food preparation when i'm depressed. I often think if someone would just cook for me, i'd be happy to eat a decent meal. When in this phase, getting up to make a sandwich feels like too much effort. Unless its toast with butter and piles of sweet jam.


So i've been living on lots of coffee, lots of weetbix with milk and honey, toast (wholegrain at least) with butter and jam, icecream, chocolate, kool mints, and lots of other bad food. I don't tend to buy a lot of savoury junk foods like chips but i have some of that sort of thing. I've been consuming huge amounts of dairy though and i started to wonder what might be going on in my arteries since i prefer full cream milk. And of course i've put on quite a lot of weight very quickly.


Anyway the first step i took back to health was to start with a multivitamin pill, triggered by worrying about my health. I am not a big vitamin person. I don't feel it necessary to take them when i am eating normally. I am not the sort to go for alternative therapies or goji berries or wheatgrass juice. I only take these pills because there've been almost no fruit and vegies in my diet for quite a while.


It occurred to me that my diet and lack of nutrients in it, might be perpetuating my depression so i decided to start taking these vitamins in case. (Last year i took them on a cycling journey when I knew i would be unable to eat fruit and vegies for long periods.)


I went to the doctor to have a chat and soon after i started a new diary here with the resolve to get my nutrition and health back on track. I think i've been on vitamins about two weeks and today i feel great and think the depression has left me. Its been gradually lifting since i went to see my gp.


So if your situation is at all like mine. If you are eating badly - a lot of comfort foods, if you stuck in the rut of inactivity, if you are feeling miserable about life and yourself, or if you dieting efforts are up and down, try taking a multivitamin. Of course if you feel very depressed about things, you should also see your doctor and start treatment with councelling and maybe antidepressants as well.
 
Ok...I'm sold.


Even tho I eat well, I'm somewhat depressed and find it difficult to get active lately. Almost a chore to do a chore if you know what I mean. I've been telling myself I have to get active with my kids before they grow up.


I will start a multivitamin program tomorrow. I'm sure its not going to hurt and theres no other effort involved other than popping a pill a day. I'm in. And I will add the results to my journal.


Thanks for the heads up 44.
 
Flumes if you are depressed and eating well, then it might be an antidepressant you need and not a vitamin pill. At least go and talk about it with your gp. They can do a questionnaire to determine how depressed you are, although of course they are often used to assessing on appearance how depressed a person is. If your gps are anything like ours are book a double session so you have plenty of time to talks things through properly.
 
Hi 44,


I was on an antidepressant for a year. I went thru three or four varieties before that to find one would work for me. Doc recommended I stay on them when I told him I was feeling better but said the strength was fairly low so I could try and do without. So far, its been the same or getting slightly better but its slow.


I just never thought of vitamins ill you mentioned it.


They can't hurt :)
 
Well if you don't notice any significant changes in the next three weeks, i think you should reconsider your meds. I have been off and on meds since 1997. I always was on the lowest dose except for once i tried a higher dose for a short period but it freaked me out so i didn't want to do it. I take effexor. What did you take?


But also once i was off them for two years and i noticed such a lot of resistance to going back on them even though i was depressed. this resistance is very common. Its actually symptomatic of depression. I hang out on a depression forum and listen to everything under the sun about people's experiences.


anyway this last time i went along to the doctor after the two years break and having lost my business to the depression etc etc, i finally realised that i would have to be on them forever and so now i am fine with that. Even when i am good i stay on them because i know i slide back. True i also can get depressed whilst on them too but i don't think its as severe.
 
The nice part about vitamins and supplements is that you can start taking them for a period of time (3 months is a good test) ans see how you feel. If you don't see any difference then stop taking the vitamin or supplement. I tried taking Glucosamine and Chondroitin for knee pain and stopped after 3 months with no relief - I guess I'm the 25% of the population where that doesn't work.


My doctor suggested vitamin D3 for my cholesterol and upon starting it my migraines dropped from 8-9 a month to 1-2. Needless to say I am still taking D3. I started taking a zinc supplement to raise my testosterone and my dry skin stopped.


There is so many false claims out their for vitamins and supplements. So, be careful, do your research and test them on yourself!


Professor tom Laurie

author of The Losing Attitude for Dieters
 
What are you a professor of Tom. Are you a PhD We don't have many professors in Australia so i don't really know what it means in america.


Once i had a job in a cosmetic clinic and everyone was big on ritalin for their skin (hmm no sure i mean ritalin. its vitamin d as a topical ointment anyway). I decided to test it by applying it to one forearm. After maybe six months to a year (i can't quite remember now it was a long time ago) i noticed no visible difference. The stuff is supposed to rebuild collagen and rebuild damaged tissue. So of course i stopped using it.
 
If I don't see results happening in a few weeks, I'll probably slush off on the vitamins out of boredom. I'm not very diligent when I'm not excited about something. Now if they were childrens chewables in different flavors, that might help lol.


When chosing my vitamins, I had a blank stare going on while looking at all the brands and claims. Prices were from cheap (5.00 per 100) for no name vitamins to one I remember that was 30 odd dollars for a small bottle. WTF?? I figured it was snake oil and stuck with the biggest brand name there is up here.


Ohhhh.....funny thing was, there was a sign that said this bottle I selected was on sale....5 dollars off. So, my being a frugal Italian, I picked it not even looking at anything written on it other than the name and something like "Complete multivitamin" and proceeded to the cash to pay. When the lady rang it in....it came up regular price. So I questioned the sale sticker and she said it was for the regular box...not the box with the 20 extra pills in it. Then she added, "Besides, the ones you got are for people 50+ and honey, you don't look a day over 40!"


So I paid the full price and smiled as I walked out the door. I'm sure the salesclerk has a doctorate in marketing strategies! lol
 
Flumes that's a funny story. I've got one about shopping for mine as well. Incidentally when i wanted to know what to buy, i asked the chemist. So i buy Swisse and yes they are a big name. and the pill is so huge i have to break it up and then its bitter but i take it anyway.


I bought mine from a supermarket chain. I already knew the brand i was buying but there were different products. women's, women's 50+, men's, men's 50+ sporting women's and so on. So i picked womens and thought the price was $32 noticing that another product that had a few more in the box was around $60. No thanks, i will go with the cheaper product.


When i got to the cash register, or the checkout, the bigger price came up and i said hang on a minute. Luckily i had been watching. A woman was called to do a price check. It turned out that there the wrong product had been put with my price tag and so i got the better product for the lower price according to shop policy. I'm not sure what i'm going to do next time. I don't want to pay $60. If my diet is on track, maybe i will stop them. As it is today, i don't take one every day now because i'm eating more vitamins from food sources.


which reminds me i need to go and buy a bag of green things from my hydroponics farming neighbour today. I tell its a treat living next to a vegie farmer. I save a fortune
 
Good buy on the vitamins! Gotta luv it when the error is in your favour.


I really do think the vitamins are doing me good. I wonder what I've been missing!
 
I am a professor of Information Technology with degrees in computer science and mathematics. I'm passionate about the human spirit and believe you can do anything with the right Attitude!


I have found that my love of mathematics has done me well when it comes to dieting and to finding the right supplements. As in your story, you have to read the label!


Tom Laurie

author of The Losing Attitude for Dieters
 
Flume you could possibly find out by writing a food diary. Even if you do it privately, then you can go back and analyse it. But of course it would take quite a lot of time. On the other hand, have you ever discussed it with a doctor. Sometimes there are tests to check on some things. IT could be vitamin D, it could be Vitamin B or one of the vit Bs.


YOu can't rule out the placebo effect either flume. Sometimes just hope itself can cause a big shift in mood. But that's good news anyway that you are starting to feel better.


Tom what is the losing attitude? Can you say what it is in a nutshell.


My cat's getting fat. He's begging for more food straight after i've given him breakfast. Sheesh!
 
All diets fail ... eventually. So, I feel it's more important to be motivated than to pick a specific regimen. The "Losing Attitude" a way to stay focused.
 
hm yes, staying motivated is the key. Last time i wrote a diary i said when we stop caring what we eat, then we start to lose the battle. This phrase about caring struck a chord with a few other people around here.


About how all diets fail eventually. Well its my plan to try to subvert that notion. The idea is to lose weight slowly and to stop loseing weight at the 10% weight loss point, hold the weight at that stage for a period of time before going down lower. Because scientists have observed that it about the critical point where the body fights back and sets the hungry hormones going. You can't really beat those hungry hormones so its better not to let them kick in in hte first place.
 
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