most effective art?

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Karky

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most effective art in a real life fight.

giving its a real fight, on the street, what do you think is the martial art that would be best knowing?
the way i see it, most fights on the street end up close combat, not standing 3 feet away from eacother kicking and hitting and jumping around. if you get my point? it seems like its mostly one punch, then the rest if wresling.

see, ive been thinking about starting a martial art, but i want one that will benifit me if i ever get assulted, i was thinking about judo, as you learn throws and such that can be applied from very close range.

so, what do you think?

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suposing the guy you had to fight against did not know martiall arts, not saying he was a dude who had no idea about fighting, but just as if two people who knew karate met and had to fight irl, it would obviously be karate:p
 
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Karky, you're not gonna get a straight answer on this...

Most people think their art is the "best". All have practical applications, all have pros and cons.

you want to make sure you're ready for anything, balance your training between striking and grappling...
 
yeah i figured i wouldnt get a streight answer, but i would like to hear some input, like a discussion, i figured id take it online with martial arts people, as u cant put ur fist trough ur screen and into my face:p
"striking and grappling..." sorry, not very familiar with those terms, spechally not the last one:p
 
ok let me elaborate...

striking arts such as karate and tae kwon do...

be careful on what school you choose, a lot of schools teach these arts as sport and less as self defense.

Kung Fu is usually taught more traditional and less for sport, its a good choice if you can find a good school, Kung fu is also a striking art.

As for grappling, Ju-jitsu is the way to go I think. A mix of these arts can be deadly.
 
i think ju-jitsu has an 18 year old limit in norway :p im only 17 :(
and like, street fights, atleast here, normally consist of some thug grabbing a hold of you, or first punching you then grabbing a hold of you. defending against that would be grappling? if so, thats the kind of thing ill need.

and how can u find out if a school is teaching it as a sport and less self defence? anything specific to look for?
 
grappling is like wrestling, it would be fighting on the ground.

ask how they spar, if they spar only for "points" or don't spar at all, go the other way.
 
okay, thanks for the tip!
i dont want to learn only grapping, i love those armlocks, i think thats what they are called, when you hold someone a specific way so that they cant really do much and if they try to resist you can break their arm or something:p as it could be handy using to solve a situation without having to punch someones face inn, as punching often leads to more fighting.
 
Through fighting in many open tournaments, I have found that it doesen't matter much what art you practice, it is how you train that matters. Instinct, speed, power, experience > style. The better fighter will dictate how it plays out regardless of style.

As far as streetfights go, you really don't need to know that much. 99 times out of 100, a martial artist will not attack you in the street. It will be some thug with what he thinks are great street fighting skills, but in actuality he could not fight his way out of a wet paper bag. Basic technique with good speed and power will put one of these fools to sleep.

One of the main factors in choosing a style from a self defence perspective should be your physical size. A 5'2 110lb woman would be foolish to think she can grapple with a 6' 200lb man unless she is very highly skilled. Where as a well placed strike or 2 could give her the time she needs to escape or pull out a weapon. (keys, mace, that kind of stuff).
 
yeah, okay. i kind of started this to try to find out whats good for me.
im 190 cm tall and weigh 74 kilos i think. very thin, though i dont think im a whuss, as when i just play around with my friends fighting, i often end up holding their head under my arm and when they do that to me, i usually end up breaking out of it.
 
I would say
1.find out what is near you
2.find out what fits your schedule
3.find out what you can afford
4.go visit these classes for 2 observations and 1-2 free lessons
5.pick the one you like the most


If it was me, I'd pick Silat and just carry a knife with me everywhere.:) (okay, bad joke).
 
crazy is right...

I've seen (not participated in) two fights since I started practicing martial arts. Both fights started exactly the same, two guys get into each others faces, talking trash, then one pushed the other, and in one case, the other guy pushed back, the other case the other guy took a big roundhouse type of haymaker punch.

If it were me, if someone got that close to me, Id go to some kind of stance to brace myself and put my hands up telling them I don't want any trouble, loud enough to where everyone heard me... If he then proceeded to come on in to my personal space with his hands down, he'd get hit before he even had a chance to put his hands up. A competent martial artist in any style who trains right should see a haymaker like that coming a mile away, and often a good strong block is enough to break an arm if done correctly.
 
okay, i think it will be judo then, ill guess ill go ask some questiones down there about what they actually learn. ive been told judo is kind of a soft martial art, you dont learn how to bash inn peoples faces, just learn how to defend urself with throws and stuff.

the example you explained, if you did that, hitting them after ur first warning, would that be self defence? as i have heard theone who throws the first punch is theone who gets in troubble.
 
Allen is correct. And, you never know what will happen on the street. You might think you are fighting one-on-one and find yourself facing multiple armed opponents. Many of the arts will not help here. And, many arts are more artistic and won't help on the street anyway. Here are some good ones:

1. Wing Chun (there is a street fighting version taught by Franco that is kickazz)
2. Brazilian Ju-jitsu (they may not teach you this until you are over 18, because ju-jitsu is very hard on your tendons and connective tissue which is weaker (still growing) when you are younger.)
3. Krav Maga teaches many nice street fighting techniques but is hard to find quality instruction for.
4. Any of the striking ones (tang su do, tae kwon do, etc.) to add balance to your street fighting and grappling.
5. Boxing
6. Wrestling

Remember that many street fights are avoided by a prtective stance and a look of readiness. You will be surprised how many would-be bad guys will back down when you aren't whimpering and begging for them to leave you alone.

Rule number one: you do not talk about fight club...

Happy hunting,
Rip
 
yeah, thanks, i want something i can actually USE to defend myself, there is a jujitsu club where i live, just normal jujitsu (please tell me there is such thing:p) would that also be effective if i actually got attacked? and you dident mention judo, is that because judo is usually focused on one opponent?

thing is, i want something that will defend me against the average thug that jumps on to you, i dont know many martial arts, but some of them seem to only be focused on kicks and punches, but when you get grabbed, as you usually get if you are assaulted on the street, theres not much the martial art can do here.
if im completley wrong there, just tell me :)
 
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nah you're on the right track...

if you want something thats gonna protect you from the average thug, go with a striking art first (karate, kung fu) because ju jitsu will only help you if the fight goes to the ground. With a striking art, you will probably keep that from happening. A guy attacks you, a well placed punch, kick, or strike can deter them long enough for you to escape.

Trust me, if Im grabbed out on the street, i can most definitely get loose and hurt someone :)
 
You might want to look into hapkido and aikido. Aikido is like judo in that they focus on throws and take downs. The difference is that judo is more focused on leverage, aikido is more focused on joint manipulation. Hapkido could best be described as a cross between taekwondo, judo, and aikido. IMO hapkido is one of the most useful martial arts because of how well rounded it is. You have nearly all the strikes and amazing kicks of tkd, with the grappling and joint locks of judo and aikido. This is likely why it is pracitced by the korean military and presidential guard.

With any martal art, you have to shop around. Schools of identical styles can vary greatly in the quality of instruction you get.
 
yeah, only problem is, where i live, is a small town. 25000 inhabitants.
theres not alot of offers, i know there is karate, judo, jujitsu. thats all i know there is.
 
When I was in the Army I thought I was pretty hot stuff in combatives. Until I met an IDF (israeli) soldier who did Krav Maga and he kicked my ass. Just my two cents.

edit- I have always found that grappling and locks were the most effective way to subdue an unarmed attacker in most situations. I know people who are amazing at Tae Kwon Do, and they could easily kick my butt, but the majority of people would find it easier to defend themselves with grappling and locks (hence the reason they teach that to soldiers).
 
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yeah, thats what i was thinking, thats why i want an art where i learn some locks and stuff.
i guess i gotta do some researching and find out what the offers are in my town, i wouldnt be suprised if it was only jujitsu, judo and karate.

edit: did some research, seems its only jujitsu, karate and judo in my town :(
 
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