It Is Time To Stop Killing Myself With Food

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Heading2Buffdom

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Hi everyone,

I am a guy who has been able to hide much of my weight gain because of the fact that I am a bodybuilder/powerlifter type who just gets "huge" rather than looking sloppy. However, I have come to the conclusion that I am killing myself physically and financially with my addictions to food. It is an addiction when you want to stop but you can't. I am spending the kind of money a cocaine addict may spend on a habit - on food. I am a guy who really needs to get it together because I just have a really difficult time making it when I am fat. I know I can do it. I have done it before and I have had prolonged periods of feeling really great and then it just comes back.

I have a food addiction and an eating disorder. There I said it.

Thanks for listening,

H2B
 
Hey Buff :)
Welcome to the WLF!

So what does your diet look like? How are you planning to change it?
Are you still working out/lifting?
 
Don't worry you're surrounded by people on this forum who are in exactly the same position :)

Youve taken the first step now in admitting it to yourself.

It all takes time... but you are in the best site to help kick the habit...(sounds like a drug addiction eh)

Keep us up to date with your progress.

Much Love

Rach x
 
Thanks for the Love!

Here is My plan:

1. No eating after 6 PM
2. Eliminate ALL takeout food - This is my dirty secret......lol
3. Lots of Water
4. 6 eatings (if that's a word) per day
5. No more than a fist full of food at any time
6. Zero processed foods
7. A meal replacement with PGX in it (stabilizes blood sugars) 3 of the 6 meals.
8. Small glycogen hit (juice) a few times a day
9. Exercise at least a half hour a day in fat burning heart rate zone
10. Tell everyone what I am doing and open up to as many people as I can about my addiction
11. Eliminate as many empty calories as possible
12. Pray lots
13. Lots of fibre
14. Zero fried foods
15. Raw veggies and fruits (mainly veggies)
 
That is EXACTLY the same as what im doing.. or have done the 4 days... except for the PGX which i have no idea to what that is.. please do enlighten me :)

What are your stats at the moment..you dont have to say if u dont want to! :D

You should check out other peoples successes and see what plans they have done to succeed on the site..:)

Ive got 50 pounds to lose.. started at 200, want to get down to between 150-65, i weighed myself this morn and i was 197 so i dunno if its the amount of caloried i have been eating or the amount of excersize i have been doing... but 3 pounds in 5 days isnt too bad to start eh... so its working for me so far anyway.. but friday will be tough as its ''take away night'' in our house.. so we shall see then!

But im only weighing myself in 2 weeks time now .. cus i dont wanna get my hopes up and find iv gained weight through storing water or something :)

Gd Luck Nyway x
 
Heading2Buffdom said:
Here is My plan:

1. No eating after 6 PM
2. Eliminate ALL takeout food - This is my dirty secret......lol
3. Lots of Water
4. 6 eatings (if that's a word) per day
5. No more than a fist full of food at any time
6. Zero processed foods
7. A meal replacement with PGX in it (stabilizes blood sugars) 3 of the 6 meals.
8. Small glycogen hit (juice) a few times a day
9. Exercise at least a half hour a day in fat burning heart rate zone
10. Tell everyone what I am doing and open up to as many people as I can about my addiction
11. Eliminate as many empty calories as possible
12. Pray lots
13. Lots of fibre
14. Zero fried foods
15. Raw veggies and fruits (mainly veggies)
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Interesting to say the least. :confused:

As for number 1, I ask why?

As for number 5, do you know how many calories you will be consuming, since energy balance is what drives your weight?

As for number 7, do you really believe that a meal replacement is better then whole, natural foods?

As for number 8, I ask, what do you hope to accomplish from this? Are you really depleting glycogen that much throughout the day? And if so, you do know that glycogen is volatile and will most likely be replenished completely through your meals.

As for number 9, what is the fat burning heart rate zone? You do know that energy balance dictates fat loss, right?

Not being a hard head, just truly interested in your thoughts. :)
 
Steve said:
Interesting to say the least. :confused:

As for number 1, I ask why? The metabolism slows down considerably after 6. I will stimulate it with my run at night. I have always had tremendous success with this when I apply it.

As for number 5, do you know how many calories you will be consuming, since energy balance is what drives your weight? MY BMR is 2400.

As for number 7, do you really believe that a meal replacement is better then whole, natural foods? No, I will be eating whole natural foods with this. This meal replacement is a blood sugar stabilizer. I have used it and it has been great in the past.

As for number 8, I ask, what do you hope to accomplish from this? Are you really depleting glycogen that much throughout the day? And if so, you do know that glycogen is volatile and will most likely be replenished completely through your meals. Slight, slight sips.

As for number 9, what is the fat burning heart rate zone? You do know that energy balance dictates fat loss, right? There are 7 heart rate zones ranging from aerobic to anaerobic. There is a zone that is best for each individual. This can only be found by doing a scientific test which I have done. My fat burning zone is 148-156 BPM. Anything outside of that is the shit zone and nothing happens. I spent 800 dollars on a test and am very comfortable with the results and will be using me HR monitor for my activities. I suggest you google and look up "junk zone" or "shit zone." Many people train outside of the fat burning zone.

Not being a hard head, just truly interested in your thoughts. :)
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Thanks for your interest.
 
The metabolism slows down considerably after 6. I will stimulate it with my run at night. I have always had tremendous success with this when I apply it.

No it doesn't.

Total calories is what matters. Think of it like this. Suppose your maintenance caloric intake was 2000 calories. This means, you can eat 2000 calories each day, and this exactly matches the amount of energy you expend in a given day through breathing, digestion, activity, etc.... so no weight is lost or gained.

Now suppose you ate nothing at all, all day long. And at 9 PM, you eat 1500 calories. At 9:30, you go to bed.

Guess what?

You won't gain weight. Unless you found some way to bend the laws of thermodynamics. You can't create something out of nothing. If you are in a defecit, what are you going to make tissue out of?

That said, if this is what you are comfortable with, and you are meeting your caloric objectives, so be it. But if you are hungry at night, don't torture yourself. As long as you keep your calories in check with the totals that you should set up, you will be fine.

MY BMR is 2400.

OK, sooooo......

How many calories are you doing to eat?

No, I will be eating whole natural foods with this. This meal replacement is a blood sugar stabilizer. I have used it and it has been great in the past.

Define "great." Why do you need to stabilize your blood sugars. Unless you have some metabolic disease (read, diabetes or something along those lines) or if you are eating in a comletely retarded fashion, your blood sugar stability should be fine.

I don't mean to harp on the product, I would just hate to see you waste your money on something you don't need.

Slight, slight sips.

Why? I don't get it at all.

There are 7 heart rate zones ranging from aerobic to anaerobic. There is a zone that is best for each individual. This can only be found by doing a scientific test which I have done. My fat burning zone is 148-156 BPM. Anything outside of that is the shit zone and nothing happens. I spent 800 dollars on a test and am very comfortable with the results and will be using me HR monitor for my activities. I suggest you google and look up "junk zone" or "shit zone." Many people train outside of the fat burning zone.

So, let me ask you this. What happens if I exercise in your "shit zone," yet, eat in a caloric deficit? Will I not lose fat. And yes, this is a serious question that I would really like an answer to.

Oh wait, maybe you did find a way to bend the laws of thermodynamics.
 
My final words

I am quite content and happy with my plan. I shared it because I was asked to share it. I am certainly not interested in debating, defending or arguing my plan. If you look at the top of the page, this link is for people who are newcomers. I am one of those people. I obviously don't have it all in control because I am on a weight loss site. However, I do have excellent working knowledge of what works for me and many, many years of application and success. The last few years have not fallen into the success category. However, my ability to draw upon excellent success in the past is something I am happy about. Once again, I am not interested in debating. If you want to learn more about junk zones etc. you can feel free to research it as much as you would like. I came on this site to pour out my heart and gain support. If I want a debate or being treated in a condescending fashion, I can probably find that somewhere else.
 
Sorry you got so emotionally attached to the discussion at hand. I'll keep that in mind if you decide to stick around the forum.

Good luck with your journey.
 
To the other readers of this thread, let's discuss the "fat burning zone" since this was so generously brought up as a conducive training protocol to utilize.

I beg to differ.

There are studies out there that conclude that a mild intensity does oxidize the most fat. I believe it was found that something like 63% of VO2 max was the maximizing level of where most fat was used. Going beyond this led to a diminishing use of fat utilization as the other various fuel substrates are used, read glycogen and phosphagen systems.

Hence, the "fat burning zone" is born.... and you have a bunch of people who don't know what they are talking about running around and saying, if you want to burn as much fat as possible, stick to this Zone.

Unfortunately for this concept, the science backing it really looks at the period of time during the actual exercise and maybe a short time after. As stated above, looking at these acute periods of time, yes, the most fat is oxidized exercising at mild intensities (fat burning zone).

Unfortunately, failing to look at higher intensity exercise and longer durations of post exercise is a huge mistake. Doing so sheds a lot of light. Not doing so is turning your back to the idea that there are longer lasting effects on your body than, simply, the acute time period of exercise.

As you bring the extension of the post exercise window into light, and start toying around with exercise intensity, you find that although lower intensity exercise burns more fat during the actual bout of exercise..... higher intensity exercise burns more fat when you take into account the after-effects or post exercise window.

Since TOTAL energy balance is what matters at the end of the day, you decide for yourself what the most optimal way to train is.

I might add, I certainly feel that lower intensity work has its place.... using both forms is ideal. But don't be mislead into believing that there is some magic fat burning zone or capabilities attached to moderate intensity cardio.

At the end of the day, thermodynamics rules the roost. I don't care what "zone" you are exercising in.... you can't slip past scientific law.

I also hate coming across as rude. For those of you who have been around long enough, you know that is certainly not my intentions. I do everything in my power to help as many people as I can. I admit I have an "in your face" approach at times, but it is who I am, and don't see it changing any time soon.
 
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you find that although lower intensity exercise burns more fat during the actual bout of exercise..... higher intensity exercise burns more fat when you take into account the after-effects or post exercise window.
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Excellent point Steve - thank you!
 
yo steve i like da way you tell it. ya dont beat round da bush a nothin so I wanna know what you think about what i'm doin with my weight loss situation
 
Seemo said:
yo steve i like da way you tell it. ya dont beat round da bush a nothin so I wanna know what you think about what i'm doin with my weight loss situation
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Well come to my journal to discuss it. I think I hijacked this thread enough. :)

Look forwad to hearing from you.
 
To clarify

The only way to determine your fat burning zone is to get an actual test that determines your seven heart rate zones and determines your lactic and anaerobic thresholds. Heart rates can be measured. Heart rate zones cannot be estimated. High intensity or low intensity are abstract concepts unless they are supported by empirical data that scientifically categorizes them as high intensity or low intensity. Every single person has a zone where they burn fat most optimally. Training in a junk zone that is too light in intensity is a waste of time if fat burning is the goal for that activity. Training in a zone that is too intense can result in the body eating its own tissues and muscle. There is a zone. It needs to be scientifically determined and can only be trained in with a heart rate monitor. Estimation rarely works. As well, every six weeks or so, the same tests must be carried out. The heart rate zone changes with improved fitness levels. A person cannot determine their fat burning zone any more than a mechanic can look at a parked car and determine what is going on under the hood.
 
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