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Applee

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It feels so wierd looking over the old threads I posted in early 2009.

I was 14- 5'4, around 204 pounds and determined to make it to 118 pounds. I can't even remember what went wrong but I feel so ashamed :(

I'm now reaching 16, I've grown 3 inches in height and I'm at an all time low (well, high) of 222 pounds (I have a 38" waist so it isn't as bad).

In terms of goal, I'm thinking 147 within 9 months. A steady 2 pounds a week.

I'm no stranger to dieting since I've been on one since I was 8, but I'm asking this as means of support and motivation, while making myself familiar with this place again :)

Happy New Years Eve everyone!
 
Hi and welcome back. Don't beat yourself up just start again. 2 lbs a week should be do-able. Start keeping track of everything you eat. Remember for those of us with weight problems we have to change our eating habits or we will always be fat. Sometimes starting slowly like getting rid of the junk foods will help. As you are still growing make sure you get enough nutrition and protein. Don't starve yourself. Start exercising. This can be just starting out with increasing your walking at a faster pace.
You don't have to do anything drastic just take small steps and soon you will be on your way to a healthier you.
 
This can be just starting out with increasing your walking at a faster pace.

Walking is not going to help you loose weight. not one bit.

Cut your junk food out .
Cut down on your carbs (They are fuel nothing else)
It Regualer threw out the day
Dont eat carbs and fat together.
If your going to go Walking Then my it Interval Training .
Stick some short Sprints in the walk .

Look at my Cardio and fat loss dont mix post. It explains why cardio sucks for fat loss.

Give me a sample day of what you eat and Ill give you a few pointers.:hat:
 
Thank you both for the tips :) Jay, I've commented on your post!

A sample plan would be:
Breakfast- Porridge, Cereal or Toast.
Lunch- Pasta with tomato & cheese or a Sandwich with a piece of fruit.
Snack- Peanut Butter on Toast, Cereal Bar or a small packet of Crisps.
Dinner- Smaller portion of whatever my Mothers made with Salad/Grilled Veggies. We always have Fruit with Dinner too.
Water- At least 4/5 glasses.

Exercise, 30 minutes a day. Whether a walk or aerobics at home :)
 
Applee said:
Thank you both for the tips :) Jay, I've commented on your post!

A sample plan would be:
Breakfast- Porridge, Cereal or Toast. (To many Carbs )
Lunch- Pasta with tomato & cheese or a Sandwich with a piece of fruit. (Carbs and Sugar )
Snack- Peanut Butter on Toast, Cereal Bar or a small packet of Crisps.(Carbs and sugar with a sprinkle of Sat fat)
Dinner- Smaller portion of whatever my Mothers made with Salad/Grilled Veggies. We always have Fruit with Dinner too.(Good Minus the fruit )
Water- At least 4/5 glasses.

Exercise, 30 minutes a day. Whether a walk or aerobics at home :)
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OK way to many carbs and not enough fat in your diet.
To much fruit . Fruit is still sugar at the end of the day (Fructose.) Limit fruit to once a day ( HIGH in fibre fruit etc) and eat it on its own as a snack not with meals.

Carbs is a fuel nothing and nothing else .It Is an easily accessible fuel at that and more readily available than fat .Its right there in your muscles stored as glycogen waiting to be used .it makes sense that your body will utilize it first right ?

Wrong !!!!

Your body will utilize fat at low intensities provided you haven't ingested carbs in the last few hours . You see carbs is easily digested and causes insulin release. Insulin will not only cause storage of excess fat and carbs but also prevent fat being release for use of energy .

That's why when you eat big carb meals you get tired . This is a sugar crash caused by a sudden drop in blood glucose , also because you body has ceased to release fat to be used as energy .

You have no fat or protein in your diet ,You need protein and fat in your diet FACT. Protein is essential in all processes throughout your body . Not only muscle gain and maintenance but hormonal function,hair,skin,nails,blood cells,I could go on forever lol But almost everything relies on protein and fat intake.

So to summarise eat more fat and protein and less carbs . The more fat (good fats ) you give your body the less reluctant it will be to store it .
Carbs stop you burning fat as fuel . Look into a diet called cheat your way thin. a few of us in the studio use that system and its brilliant .

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San said:
Uhm...whatever happened to 'Five a day'?
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Lol 5 a day keeps the doctor away . Don't get me wrong fruit is healthy. Its still full of sugar tho (Fructose) Have fruit in moderation Don't think you can nail endless amounts of fruit and loose weight at the same time. Like I said eat it in between meals And try and eat Small portions of fruit . I eat blueberries, strawberries etc Because I can control my portion size .

FACT ALL THE CALORIES IN FRUIT ARE SUGAR.
SUGAR = INSULIN
INSULIN = NO FAT LOSS.
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So to summarise eat more fat and protein and less carbs . The more fat (good fats ) you give your body the less reluctant it will be to store it .
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Thank you :)
Yes, looking back there are too many carbs! I'll keep fruit as a snack too.

In terms on protein, I use cheddar/cottage cheese, we have chicken 2/3 times a week and fish every now and then.

What do you mean by "eat more fat"?
 
Applee said:
Thank you both for the tips :) Jay, I've commented on your post!

A sample plan would be:
Breakfast- Porridge, Cereal or Toast.
Lunch- Pasta with tomato & cheese or a Sandwich with a piece of fruit.
Snack- Peanut Butter on Toast, Cereal Bar or a small packet of Crisps.
Dinner- Smaller portion of whatever my Mothers made with Salad/Grilled Veggies. We always have Fruit with Dinner too.
Water- At least 4/5 glasses.

Exercise, 30 minutes a day. Whether a walk or aerobics at home :)
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This "one fruit" guy is nuts...

If you can, try and stick to 4/6 meals per day. For breakfast, I always have a banana smoothie. Then at lunch, one half of a salad, then 3 hours later, the other half, and so forth.

You're eating a lot of carbs, so try your best to cut down on them. Believe me, I was a vegetarian for 3 years and barely lost anything because I was always stacking up on carbs. ;D

Try and start working out for one hour, and switch your workouts often, so your body wont get used to "one thing". :D
 
lauraallover said:
This "one fruit" guy is nuts...

If you can, try and stick to 4/6 meals per day. For breakfast, I always have a banana smoothie. Then at lunch, one half of a salad, then 3 hours later, the other half, and so forth.

What do you think a banana smoothie is is a load of sugar NO NO that's not what you want first thing in the morning straight away you have turn you body from burning fat to burning sugars and storing fat .

At the end of the day carbs are a Sugar just like a banana .

Good fats as in omega3 & 6 I touched a bit on a post about Alli tablets with regards to fat .

Can I just add Im not saying not to eat fruit people , But it is sugar at the end of the day (Fructose) so I f you dont use it , it will end up the same way as any sugar stored as fat . Look up a banana I think its around 30g of Fructose sugar ....
Just like milk , lACTOSE . Milk is around 1/3 sugar.
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Applee said:
Thank you :)
Yes, looking back there are too many carbs! I'll keep fruit as a snack too.

In terms on protein, I use cheddar/cottage cheese, we have chicken 2/3 times a week and fish every now and then.

What do you mean by "eat more fat"?
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Omega 3 and 6 from eggs and fish . There good for you .

Chicken Etc is grand Trying adding in Some red meat.

My day would look like this

Breakfast
3 eggs and Slice of bacon .

Breakfast 2
Oatmeal with flex seed ,Sunflower seed

Snack apple

Lunch
Chicken /Turkey/Fish .Maybe with a whole grain wrap . Or some green veggies

Snack
Nuts

Dinner
Meat and loads of green veggies peppers.Cream cheese etc.
Before bed on a training day I would have a low carb Protein shake .

I dropped from 14%bf to 6.4% in 10 weeks threw high intensity Training and good diet. Basically limiting my carbs . And eating plenty of Protein and good fats to make up the calories i lost threw carbs. I actually ate more calories when I dropped the carbs and still lost body fat . The difference being I was building muscle all the time which uses more calories and my body was burning fat as a fuel instead of carbs , I hope this makes sense to you :driving:
 
Breakfast
3 eggs and slice of bacon .
Breakfast 2
Oatmeal with flex seed ,Sunflower seed
I could do a hard boiled egg/egg white omlette. Porridge too! Are bran flakes/weetabix okay?

Snack apple
Nuts
Convenient :) Would a yoghurt or a cereal bar be okay too?

Lunch
Chicken /Turkey/Fish .Maybe with a whole grain wrap . Or some green veggies
I could do a salad wrap with one of those. Our school also caters healthy food so would that be okay as I don't have time most mornings? Tomato soup, pasta or pizza slice..


Dinner
Meat and loads of green veggies peppers. Cream cheese etc.
Basically no carbs? :)
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Thank you so much for the help!
 
Applee said:
Thank you so much for the help!
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Organic Yogurt is fine (Yeo Valley) Has is contains no added Sugar and is lactose sugar .

Next time you look at a cereal bar look at Carbs of which Sugars . There very high in sugar and in my opinion miss lead you . They are low fat , But high In sugar (Probably High Fructose corn Syrup The worst kind of Sugar possible)
Other snack You could have are....

A low carb Protein Shake.
Low carb Soup (No added Sugar)
Boiled egg

Green Veggies contain Carbs but there dense it doesn't matter . Put as many on as possible

Also Switch Sausages to Chicken or Turkey Sausages They Contain More protein and less Sugar ( In Ireland Anyway)

If you in the USA Then anything with High Fructose Corn Syrup in the ingredients stay away from its lethal.
 
Jay Farrant said:
If you in the USA Then anything with High Fructose Corn Syrup in the ingredients stay away from its lethal.
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First off..the USA isn't exactly the only nation who uses this and second..please site science that it is 'lethal'.



As you see, there are really no clear cut studies that say it is bad. It is chemically the same as sugar. You should be really looking at total sugar over that it's just 'high fructose corn syrup'.
 
Jericho said:
First off..the USA isn't exactly the only nation who uses this and second..please site science that it is 'lethal'.



As you see, there are really no clear cut studies that say it is bad. It is chemically the same as sugar. You should be really looking at total sugar over that it's just 'high fructose corn syrup'.
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Three recent studies indicate that, yes, high-fructose corn syrup is a nasty sweetener, linking the industrial sugar to kidney disease, liver disease, and weight gain. As the New York Times pointed out, “Foods made with high-fructose corn syrup are heavily processed and typically lack any meaningful nutritional value. And while the jury is out on the real effect high-fructose corn syrup has on obesity, we do know it’s a threat to the health of the planet.”





please Watch this Video Its from the US ,its long winded but excellent and basically puts obesity down to HFCS. He has some very very good facts and stats to back up his theory . I think if you watch this your change your opinion . Did you know that HFCS

I Know HFCS Isn't just in the US ,But all the documentaries I have watch have been from the US , so I wouldn't like to comment about other countries etc .

HFCS Contains Mercury which in tern is lethal
 
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Did you read the rest of the first link? The study was flawed. Regular doses is one thing but as pointed out, the first study would be equal to 3000 calories a day. Big difference.

Now on the second study:

Mercury in Some High Fructose Corn Syrup?

Read beyond the headline.

The report, published on the web site of the Minneapolis-based nonprofit Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP), shows detectable levels of mercury in 17 out of 55 tested products rich in high-fructose corn syrup.

But the researchers aren't telling people to avoid those products or other items containing high-fructose corn syrup, and they aren't sure what form of mercury those products contained.
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Wallinga and colleagues caution that their list was "just a snapshot in time; we only tested one sample of each product. That clearly is not sufficient grounds to give definitive advice to consumers."

Mercury exposure at high levels can harm the brain, heart, kidneys, lungs, and immune system. A form of mercury called methylmercury is particularly risky to a baby's developing brain and nervous system, according to background information from the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

Wallinga points out that the lab only tested for total mercury levels, not methylmercury or other types of mercury. He also notes that the EPA has a "reference dose," or upper limit, for methylmercury intake but not for other forms of mercury.
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Even the researchers themselves disagree with your comment that it is lethal.


Now to your video, you know what I got from it? TOO MUCH SUGAR IS HARMFUL. This isn't new. No matter the form, too much of it (or anything) is bad for you. Obesity is not just HFCS. There is no one reason so to say otherwise is flawed.


Sorry, but we are still talking about the difference between too much of one thing and the occassional. Try to avoid doomsday ideas and terms. I'm not arguing that it's good for you, I'm talking about your idea of it being lethal.
 
Jericho said:
Did you read the rest of the first link? The study was flawed. Regular doses is one thing but as pointed out, the first study would be equal to 3000 calories a day. Big difference.

Now on the second study:

Mercury in Some High Fructose Corn Syrup?

Read beyond the headline.





Even the researchers themselves disagree with your comment that it is lethal.


Now to your video, you know what I got from it? TOO MUCH SUGAR IS HARMFUL. This isn't new. No matter the form, too much of it (or anything) is bad for you. Obesity is not just HFCS. There is no one reason so to say otherwise is flawed.


Sorry, but we are still talking about the difference between too much of one thing and the occassional. Try to avoid doomsday ideas and terms. I'm not arguing that it's good for you, I'm talking about your idea of it being lethal.
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What I'm saying is this.... try and stay away from food that contain HCFS . Out of all the of Sugars in my opinion the worst and least Researched and its Artificial Sugar not natural . Yes to much Sugar from any source will make you fat (And that includes Fruit "Fructose") Its till Sugar . But again with any Sugar if you eat it at the right times (Can be helpful ) with the right foods (Low fat food) at the right times (When your are likely to use it as energy ) Then its fine .
Do you agree with that Jericho ????

I am anti HFCS so will have a biased opinion on it . One last thing Im not a fruit hater before people start going on . I eat plenty of fruit but IMO at the right times . (On ITS OWN) :coolgleamA:
 
ok, now see there is a difference between 'it's lethal' and 'try and stay away'

This is what I was trying to get across to you before. HOW you say something is as important as what you actually say.


I do have another question, where did you get your training as a professional? I like to know the education of experts.
 
Jericho said:
ok, now see there is a difference between 'it's lethal' and 'try and stay away'

This is what I was trying to get across to you before. HOW you say something is as important as what you actually say.


I do have another question, where did you get your training as a professional? I like to know the education of experts.
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It is Lethal . This type of Sugar HFCS has problems being broken down in the liver resulting in toxic Chemicals being produced hence HFCS Being "Lethal" In my Opinion Being "Lethal". Its an expression that we use over here in Ireland.

My Background and training

ARMY Physical Training Instructor Cadre 2008
Army PTI Training Centre Germany .

Regimental Football Team + Cross Country team Member 2008
British Forces Germany Powerlifting Competition 2009
Selection into the Royal Armoured Corps Boxing Academy and team 2008-2010

2010 ISSA Certified Personal Trainer (UK BASED)
2010 ISSA Specialist Exercise Therapy (UK BASED)

2010 -Present - I am not an Expert and have never said I am ,but I do work with experts who have been in Health and fitness industry for a number of years. I personally have benn a high level Athlete and Fitness Intructor for the past 4 years.


Bryan Kavanagh ,BSc ,CSCS Author of Athleicbodysystem
Former International Boxer and Martial Artist

Ian Graham :Certified Level II USA Track & Field Coach
Fitness Star Model search world champion 2010
Author of many books

Darragh Hayes International Cover Model and Personal Trainer .

Hope this answers your question Jericho ??? I do not believe a qualification is as important as experience.
 
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well actually it does when you present yourself as an expert. That is what you are making yourself out as here on the forum. That is why I like to see the education of a 'physical trainer'.


And as far as toxic chemicals being produced, yes..like many foods eaten. Our body gets rid of that stuff as long as you are not doing megadoses. I believe our differences is based on your wording. I disagree and I showed my science. You showed yours.
 
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