Hmmm this is really weird....

i think we can all say bruce lee was a really strong guy, not as in fighting, but as in strength

but how come he didnt really "look" muscular

i know his body was really cut, like you can see muscles cleanly, but... they wernt... like... puffy like people i see in the gym


why is that? genetics?
 
very low bf %, and a different type of training. im sure he is all about speed & some power, not hypertrophy.
 
And genetics. Be honest, not all the bodybuilding training in the world would've turned him into a second Arnold Schwarzenegger. His body was just built differently. Smaller frame.

Just like some girls length and weight are the same as supermodels, only their bones are sticking out, while a supermodel like Adriana Lima looks good that thin. Different bodytype.

But ofcourse the different training does matter.
 
maverick494 said:
And genetics. Be honest, not all the bodybuilding training in the world would've turned him into a second Arnold Schwarzenegger. His body was just built differently. Smaller frame.

Just like some girls length and weight are the same as supermodels, only their bones are sticking out, while a supermodel like Adriana Lima looks good that thin. Different bodytype.

But ofcourse the different training does matter.
Once you put meat on your bones then bone structure doesn't mean much. Don't help fool people by telling them they can never have that body because he is lucky because of his genes. With the determination and strictness of his routine & diet, most can acomplish his body.
 
Yep, look at all those other Asian movie stars- Donnie Yen, Jet Li (earlier years), that guy who played Bruce Lee in Enter the Dragon...they were all huge compared to Bruce Lee. They all have similar genes.
 
Ive never heard that Bruce Lee was strong?
In fact if anything I would say he was a fairly weak person, Tho he did a lot of fitness and speed training, he didn't do any strength training.
Ive read many books that he was involved with and he was practicaly against strength training and believed that in the fighting arts strength was not needed, speed and anticipation were used in its place.

This is where I disagree with Bruce Lee's style, its easy for someone to say that when they have been training before they could walk. But like most western martial artists that start learning in late childhood, strength is a large part of fighting and Not having strength can be a massive disadvantage.
 
manofkent said:
Ive never heard that Bruce Lee was strong?
In fact if anything I would say he was a fairly weak person, Tho he did a lot of fitness and speed training, he didn't do any strength training.
Ive read many books that he was involved with and he was practicaly against strength training and believed that in the fighting arts strength was not needed, speed and anticipation were used in its place.

This is where I disagree with Bruce Lee's style, its easy for someone to say that when they have been training before they could walk. But like most western martial artists that start learning in late childhood, strength is a large part of fighting and Not having strength can be a massive disadvantage.

Bruce Lee - weak? Are you serious? Where did you hear that he didn't do any strength training? He wasn't stupid. He knew that being stronger made you hit harder. Think about it.

Here's an article I picked up off a quick Google search -
 
yea well im lik 16 and ive been taking martial arts for about 2 years now

and im asian and i have in my basement like weights, a speed bag ( a ball, with 2 ends tied to celing and floor) and a normal punch bag

for some reason, i dont really want to look like brucelee... cuz i think he kinda looks boney... but then again i was told bulkness will ruin my ability in martial arts , especially if i plan to take capeoira later on

but i dont find shadow boxing a real excercise nether :(
 
mucleboywannabe said:
yea well im lik 16 and ive been taking martial arts for about 2 years now

and im asian and i have in my basement like weights, a speed bag ( a ball, with 2 ends tied to celing and floor) and a normal punch bag

for some reason, i dont really want to look like brucelee... cuz i think he kinda looks boney... but then again i was told bulkness will ruin my ability in martial arts , especially if i plan to take capeoira later on

but i dont find shadow boxing a real excercise nether :(


What the hell are you training? Shadow boxing is one of the best exercises for both fighting ability and cardio.

Bulkiness will NOT ruin your ability. You just need to get your flexibiliy up or maintained and all will be fine. There is a bold line between being too huge to touch your neck and being fully size capable as a fighter.
 
ibnzmusician said:
Here's an article I picked up off a quick Google search -

Thats just a website some one has made, bruce had nothing to do with it.
Ive read everthing he has writen or been involved in that I know of. Ive also trained with one of his 1st 40 students. he didnt do any weight training
 
His injury prior to the formulation of Jeet Kune Do was a result of a weight training accident.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_lee

Bruce Lee cared deeply about his physical fitness and tracked the evolution of his training in personal notes and diary, which have been recollected and published in The Bruce Lee Library by John Little, a "martial arts historian" from The Bruce Lee Estate. Lee typically exhibited a very lean and muscular appearance in his films, particularly in his upper body. Bruce Lee felt many martial artists of his day lacked the necessary physical fitness to back up their skill. In his book Tao of Jeet Kune Do, he wrote "Training is one of the most neglected phases of athletics. Too much time is given to the development of skill and too little to the development of the individual for participation."

Bruce Lee used every known technique and resource in aiding his physical fitness, including the use of electric current as an aid to strength training. However, his muscle stimulator was only one of many pieces of equipment and exercise routines Lee used to achieve his on-screen physical appearance.

The weight training program Lee used during a stay in Hong Kong in 1965, indicated bicep curls of 80 pounds and 8 repetitions[5] for endurance. This translates to an estimated one-repetition-maximum of 110 pounds[6], placing Lee in approximately the 100th percentile for the 121 to 140 pound weight class[7].

Bruce Lee was light because he was more interested in lean muscles and not bulky mass. His exercise routines consisted of polymetrics and cardiovascular training. Bruce did not resort to traditional "body building" techniques to build mass, he was more interested in muscle strength and contraction. Hence, he did low reps, high weight and developed strategies to increase muscle tension and resistance.


Of all the muscles Bruce Lee developed, his abdominal muscles were among the strongest: rock solid, deeply cut, and highly defined. Lee believed the abdominals muscles were one of the most important muscle groups for a martial artist since virtually every movement requires some degree of abdominal work. Perhaps more importantly, the "abs" are like a shell, protecting your ribs and vital organs.

Bruce Lee's washboard abs did not come from mere abdominal training; he was also a proponent of cardiovascular conditioning and would regularly run, jump rope and ride a stationary bicycle. A typical excercise Lee would perform would be to run covered a distance of two to six miles in 15 to 45 minutes.

I find that Wikipedia is not something that one would use in, say, a formal thesis, but it's reliable enough to use casually like this.
 
yea i think shadow boxing is a good excercise but my joints hurt if i punch too hard into the air...


might be my lack of skills in my punching... probably punching too out
 
Yeah man you should not be whipping your elbow. Punch in a controlled fashion, experiemnt with different ways because the right way is the way that doesn't hurt and just feels powerful, controlled, etc. At the end of the punch, flex your bicep to keep your elbow in check.
 
bruce lee looked like that and was strong because size and strenght can be completely unrelated. a muscle is only as strong as its ability to be tensed. most people can only tense their muscles about 30% of their max ability. the more you can tense it the stronger it is. the reason you can't tense it fully is becaues your golgi tendon fears that it will be torn to pieces (although it can handle far more loading than it allows). the reason that bruce lee's muscles looked like there were always flexed was because he was able to tense them so well, this increases muscle tone and makes the muscles look firmer. stronger muscles are firmer muscles...not larger.

this is known as myofibrillar hypertrophy
 
Well you learn something everyday. Its strange that he weight training was documented, but he did not mention it in any of his books. You'd think there would be somthing in "the tao of jeet kune do"
 
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