Hi, i'm new and need advice!

jf.1

jf.1

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Hi, I have been losing weight now for 2months. I've gone from 20stone(280lbs) to 19stone(266lbs) I used a calculator to workout how many calories I needed a day to lose 2lbs a week and it was 2,968/day (this is far too many.) I have currently been eating between 1200/1800 calories a day. I do cardio exercise everyday (as I have no job.) I skip for 5minutes 6 times a day. Every other day I do a sit-up, press-up(push-up) and lunges workout. My a normal daily meal would be 5 meals and this is what I would eat.
Meal 1 - Tesco Bran flakes 60g - 201 cal
Skimmed Milk 250ml - 93 cal
2 pints of water

Meal 2 - Apple, Banana, Orange - 120cal (at most)
2 pints of water

Meal 3 - Wholemeal breadx2slices, turkey sandwich (182cal)
2 pints of water

Meal 4 - Wholemeal breadx2slices, turkey sandwhich (182cal)
2 pints of water

Meal 5 - Stirfry (chicken) (900 cals)
2 pints of water

I feel like im eating too much meat and would like to replace this with something else that contains protein - im looking to go all vegan and only eat plant food, does anyone have some nutritional advice + tips on if im losing weight too fast, i don't want saggy skin so if I need to workout more could anyone just give me some advice if they know. I dont know who else to talk to, will accept any questions, thanks for reading!
 
Skipping is a good anaerobic workout but you need to be including some kind of aerobic workout like a nice long walk each day. You also need a more balanced strength routine, without balance you can become prone to injury.

I would suggest starting a diary in the diary section and log your food and exercise.
 
Sorry to contradict you tru, but I don't think anyone weighing 19 stone should be skipping. You need to do low intensity exercise till you get your weight right down nearer a healthy weight range if you don't want to do damage to your joints and possibly your back. Get on an exercise bike, go swimming. Lift some weights. Take up yoga. These are probably the safest exercises you can do at this stage. Obviously you'd have to get some instruction on using the weights to avoid injury, ditto the yoga but go to a couple of classes and you will learn heaps. If you use an exercise bike, don't make the difficulty too hard or that too will damage your knees.

I recommend you start a weight loss diary in the right section of the forum.

Start by copying over this first post.

List your height and weight and age. Work out your bmi and identify a goal weight that is in the middle of your healthy weight range. Probably something that puts you at about 22-23 BMI. calculate your bmi on some website or other using google to get you there.

Personally i think a vegan diet would be too hard for you to achieve at this stage and you could end up malnourished and worse off than you are now. If you want to go vegetarian, my page has recipes and lots of ideas that should help you. Join out vegetable dish cooking club.

Why do you want to go vegan? If its for health reasons, then i would suggest it is not the healthiest diet on the planet. It is better to be vegetarian. What will you eat to get enough calcium etc to maintain bone health if you are vegan. The only legitimate reason to be vegan is if you are doing it for the animals.

I think you need to learn a lot more about nutrition before you go vegan.

I would suggest you start by cutting out red meat - which you might already have done,
then chicken and poultry
then fish
then eggs
then dairy

If you take it one step at a time reseraching better options and how to cook new foods along the way as you go and giving enough time to making the adjustment, you might be able to make a safe transition to a sustainable vegan diet.

For now if you want to learn how to get more protein in your diet from non meat sources, learn about legumes and how to prepare them. Indian cuisine, and mediterranean cuisine has good recipes. I personally do not think anglo culture have much idea about cooking legumes and i don't like their attempts at it very much. Also middle eastern cuisine has some good recipes. eg felafal which is next on our vegetable cooking club dish.

Learn about combining foods to get whole proteins. This is what you have to do to get enough protein eg rice and lentils or legumes, corn and beans. Many other cultures who rely heavily on these foods do food combining as an integral part of their culture.

People who have a lot of weight to lose often lose a lot at hte beginning. I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. You will slow down as you get to a lower weight.

But you are not really eating enough and i think it might be unsustainable to eat such a small amount.

Please look at what i am eating and compare it what you are eating. I am 165cm tall, female, and about 10 stone at the moment and i am 47. I think my weight loss has just ground to a halt so if i want to lose more i will have to start eating fewer calories.

Congratulations on a good start though. Don't ever give up and don't worry about the loose skin. It will sort itself out in time. If you are young and eat enough protein time will heal a lot of this i think. AFter a couple of years at your ideal weight, if you have too much loose skin still, discuss options with your doctor.

I also think you might be drinking far too much water. Are you doing that to fill yourself up? Try to space it out a bit more.
 
fortyfour said:
Sorry to contradict you tru, but I don't think anyone weighing 19 stone should be skipping. You need to do low intensity exercise till you get your weight right down nearer a healthy weight range if you don't want to do damage to your joints and possibly your back. Get on an exercise bike, go swimming. Lift some weights. Take up yoga. These are probably the safest exercises you can do at this stage. Obviously you'd have to get some instruction on using the weights to avoid injury, ditto the yoga but go to a couple of classes and you will learn heaps. If you use an exercise bike, don't make the difficulty too hard or that too will damage your knees.

I recommend you start a weight loss diary in the right section of the forum.

Start by copying over this first post.

List your height and weight and age. Work out your bmi and identify a goal weight that is in the middle of your healthy weight range. Probably something that puts you at about 22-23 BMI. calculate your bmi on some website or other using google to get you there.

Personally i think a vegan diet would be too hard for you to achieve at this stage and you could end up malnourished and worse off than you are now. If you want to go vegetarian, my page has recipes and lots of ideas that should help you. Join out vegetable dish cooking club.

Why do you want to go vegan? If its for health reasons, then i would suggest it is not the healthiest diet on the planet. It is better to be vegetarian. What will you eat to get enough calcium etc to maintain bone health if you are vegan. The only legitimate reason to be vegan is if you are doing it for the animals.

I think you need to learn a lot more about nutrition before you go vegan.

I would suggest you start by cutting out red meat - which you might already have done,
then chicken and poultry
then fish
then eggs
then dairy

If you take it one step at a time reseraching better options and how to cook new foods along the way as you go and giving enough time to making the adjustment, you might be able to make a safe transition to a sustainable vegan diet.

For now if you want to learn how to get more protein in your diet from non meat sources, learn about legumes and how to prepare them. Indian cuisine, and mediterranean cuisine has good recipes. I personally do not think anglo culture have much idea about cooking legumes and i don't like their attempts at it very much. Also middle eastern cuisine has some good recipes. eg felafal which is next on our vegetable cooking club dish.

Learn about combining foods to get whole proteins. This is what you have to do to get enough protein eg rice and lentils or legumes, corn and beans. Many other cultures who rely heavily on these foods do food combining as an integral part of their culture.

People who have a lot of weight to lose often lose a lot at hte beginning. I wouldn't worry about it to be honest. You will slow down as you get to a lower weight.

But you are not really eating enough and i think it might be unsustainable to eat such a small amount.

Please look at what i am eating and compare it what you are eating. I am 165cm tall, female, and about 10 stone at the moment and i am 47. I think my weight loss has just ground to a halt so if i want to lose more i will have to start eating fewer calories.

Congratulations on a good start though. Don't ever give up and don't worry about the loose skin. It will sort itself out in time. If you are young and eat enough protein time will heal a lot of this i think. AFter a couple of years at your ideal weight, if you have too much loose skin still, discuss options with your doctor.

I also think you might be drinking far too much water. Are you doing that to fill yourself up? Try to space it out a bit more.
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First off thank you for the support, comments and feedback it really helps me as this is why I am here!

With the exercise comments, I don't feel like I should be 19stone actually, the skipping is really fine on my joints so far, it feels comfortable and good. I've also started running the passed 2days jogging for 3minutes and walking for 1minute - I do this for 20mins. I found it really hard to begin with as I find it boring more than anything else! I am so very motivated at the moment! I know how to do weights and such as I used to workout a lot when I was younger on my sports course, I learnt about it all. When I get my free weights and bench back from my uncles I plan to do a more balanced weight training program. I warm up and cool down before every training session I do. I have a lot of time on my hands at the moment and I'm just abusing that the best I can til I get back to work! :D Thank you fortyfour and Trusylver. I really want to do yoga also as I want to become as flexible as I can be however I want to maintain my muscle bulk.

I meant vegetarian not vegan(doh!) The main reason I would like to switch to vegetarian is because i'd like to get my protein sources from a more organic/plant based foods. I read a book which was really interesting containing information about how animal based products and preservatives are the main things that lead to disease and so on. I wish I like fish as I heard its amazing for protein but I just cant handle it. I'm really keen on eating fruit and I quit meat a few months ago for 2weeks and felt really cleansed and fresh from cutting it out. I've never eaten red meat and I only eat wholemeal carbs (brown rice, brown bread, brown pasta) I follow a little plan that i've made and restrict the carbohydrates/fat/protein I eat daily along with my carbohydrates to try and keep a balanced diet. I will definitely cut back on the water, however it just keeps me satisfied a lot to be honest(I really like water as its the only drink, I drink - apart from vodka once a month!) I will defintly check out your recipe page as that is what i'm struggling with at the moment the most. Thank you so much for that, fortyfour. I will try eat more then however I really have been quite comfortable with my progress this passed month. I was also talking to one of my mums friends and she was telling me that I can do a lot with indian cuisine and spices for vegetarian stuff.

Overall thanks for all your feedback I really appreciate it. Being on this forum is just motivating me even more! I am abouts to start my weight loss diary. I want to be around 205lbs eventually and this is my goal. Thank you again and I will cut back on my water alot, I seemed to have confused the 8 glasses a day with 8 pints! hah.
 
jf.1 said:
With the exercise comments, I don't feel like I should be 19stone actually, the skipping is really fine on my joints so far, it feels comfortable and good. I've also started running the passed 2days jogging for 3minutes and walking for 1minute - I do this for 20mins. I found it really hard to begin with as I find it boring more than anything else! I am so very motivated at the moment! I know how to do weights and such as I used to workout a lot when I was younger on my sports course, I learnt about it all. When I get my free weights and bench back from my uncles I plan to do a more balanced weight training program. I warm up and cool down before every training session I do. I have a lot of time on my hands at the moment and I'm just abusing that the best I can til I get back to work! :D Thank you fortyfour and Trusylver. I really want to do yoga also as I want to become as flexible as I can be however I want to maintain my muscle bulk.

I meant vegetarian not vegan(doh!) The main reason I would like to switch to vegetarian is because i'd like to get my protein sources from a more organic/plant based foods. I read a book which was really interesting containing information about how animal based products and preservatives are the main things that lead to disease and so on. I wish I like fish as I heard its amazing for protein but I just cant handle it. I'm really keen on eating fruit and I quit meat a few months ago for 2weeks and felt really cleansed and fresh from cutting it out. I've never eaten red meat and I only eat wholemeal carbs (brown rice, brown bread, brown pasta) I follow a little plan that i've made and restrict the carbohydrates/fat/protein I eat daily along with my carbohydrates to try and keep a balanced diet. I will definitely cut back on the water, however it just keeps me satisfied a lot to be honest(I really like water as its the only drink, I drink - apart from vodka once a month!) I will defintly check out your recipe page as that is what i'm struggling with at the moment the most. Thank you so much for that, fortyfour. I will try eat more then however I really have been quite comfortable with my progress this passed month. I was also talking to one of my mums friends and she was telling me that I can do a lot with indian cuisine and spices for vegetarian stuff.

Overall thanks for all your feedback I really appreciate it. Being on this forum is just motivating me even more! I am abouts to start my weight loss diary. I want to be around 205lbs eventually and this is my goal. Thank you again and I will cut back on my water alot, I seemed to have confused the 8 glasses a day with 8 pints! hah.
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I am really glad you have chosen vegetarianism and not veganism. I think its too extreme. But also since you are doing it, read some books by Peter Singer and do it for the animals as well. I think it will give you more motivation in the long run. It does me, though at the moment, i am slipping a bit. But i can justify it too. But that's a whole other matter.

Peter Singer is an important ethicist philosopher who became famous for his animal rights ideas. He's been very persuasive.

I don't think eating meat is unhealthy though. Especially if you keep to lean meats and dont' eat too much of it. There are plenty of other good sources of protein in between meat meals too. Chicken and pork are the worst in terms of animal rights. Chicken, unless you buy free range and organic is as far as i am concerned, not very clean meat. They really pump the poor little things with a lot of crap food. I'm growing my own now and ducks too.

About your meals and food, ii've been keeping a note of my meals in a diet plan excel format. Maybe it would be helpful for you to have a copy though i don't know how i can send it to you. Then you can work out some variations that suit you. perhaps you can just go on what i'm doing in my diary. "im aiming for 59". But i can help you fine tune yours if you like as well.

I am glad then that i commented about the water and so you didn't kill yourself in the process of trying to be healthy.

You won't lose muscle bulk by doing yoga. If you have a look at any of those links on my page, all those guys are muscly. One difference between weight lifting and yoga would be that yoga use body itself as weights, while weight lifting uses objects. Have a look on youtube for some videos too. But join a class. I suspect you will find quite a lot of the exercises difficult until you got your weight down. But a good teacher would give you enough to work with to keep it interesting.

I think the combination of vegetarianism and yoga is a good one. If you can keep up with it, after a while you might be motivated to go to india and deepen your experience. Combining these practices should set you up for long term health and low weight.

I stil think the skipping and running is not good for you. It may not cause pain now but it will cause damage anyway, until you lose some weight. A lot of overweigh people in their 30s have knee pain and all they do is walk! What does that tell you. Yoga would be a much better option and don't kid yourself, it is strenuous. Most sessions go for 90 minutes.
 
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