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Big D said:
Psychologically, some people can go well with scant portions, in their mind, I'd imagine they see it as 'Dieting" (big ol' honkin' D), and almost want that never ending feeling of hunger, almost as a penance or something.
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That's a really interesting point. I know a lot of people who seem to use "dieting" as punishment for being fat, and then it usually backfires and they end up weighing more than when they started because they begin to demonize the diet that they chose as evil and unhealthy, when in actuality they chose something that was basically un-doable and set themselves up for failure.

I think a lot of people do that because they are afraid to change, even though they want to. They're afraid that they will fail or that the challenge of getting healthy will be too difficult for them to handle, so they chose an unreasonable diet that they can't maintain, knowing that they can blame that diet in the end if things go badly because it isn't really practical or healthy in the first place.

A lot of people who say they've "tried everything within reason" to lose weight, are usually the people who have tried everything except something reasonable.
 
Addiecakes said:
That's a really interesting point. I know a lot of people who seem to use "dieting" as punishment for being fat, and then it usually backfires and they end up weighing more than when they started because they begin to demonize the diet that they chose as evil and unhealthy, when in actuality they chose something that was basically un-doable and set themselves up for failure.
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Pretty much, even when they run into it with the best of intentions. I mean, some actually thrive under it, and more power to them. honestly. For those that have tried many things, they lucked out and found something that fits them.

Other times, I call it the medicine factor. For something to be effective, we usually have it in our head, i has to suck, either taste terrible, make us sick, feel bad, go broke, etc. doesn't matter. It's like we have to deal with some sort of hardship, otherwise our opinion of its effectiveness diminishes greatly.

Ever notice that?
 
Big D said:
Other times, I call it the medicine factor. For something to be effective, we usually have it in our head, i has to suck, either taste terrible, make us sick, feel bad, go broke, etc. doesn't matter. It's like we have to deal with some sort of hardship, otherwise our opinion of its effectiveness diminishes greatly.

Ever notice that?
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Very good point, Big D. I often get frustrated with this. I'll set a client up on a healthy meal plan that won't leave them feeling hungry and won't deny them any food groups or their favorite foods. They should be happy, right? It seems like way too often they come back to me with some awful deprivation diet to ask me if I think it'll work.
 
Thanks for the welcome, Steve. I have a private fitness training studio in the Seattle, WA area. I also run an online fitness training program.

You're a trainer, too, right? Where do you train, Steve?
 
Same deal, really. I own a private studio outside of Philadelphia, PA and I run an online training platform as well.

Nice to have you here.
 
Great website, Steve. I noticed that we have a couple of things in common: NASM and the focus on weight loss education.

Thank you for the warm welcome to the forum.
 
Thanks. :)

My NASM is about to expire. I need to get some CEs. I guess I'll have to get their CES cert just to maintain my certification with them.
 
I don't hold high regards for any cert. I've had the NSCA cpt and CSCS, arguably the two most "prestigious" certs out there and I've let them expire. I can't say that any of the certs I've obtained over the years, which have been many, have helped me or my clients.
 
I definitely think it makes sense to do more than one cert instead of just keeping up one of them. I learned something different from each of them.

Experience teaches the most though, doesn't it?
 
Experience and research, yep. Certs don't compare to experience and real research.
 
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