Gaining muscle with maintenance calorie. Why not possible if you have stored fat

BigMOFO

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I apologize if this has already by answered somewhere. I've read on this forum about the body's inability to lose fat and gain muscle at the same time. But why isn't it possible for someone with high body fat percentage to gain muscle if they are on maintenance calorie or a slight deficit. I ready somewhere (I wish I still had the site, im looking for it right now), that you could utilize about 30 calories daily for each pound of fat that you have in your body which could add up to alot of calories if your bf percentage is high. So instead of eating above your maintenance level to gain muscle, why can't your body use, along with the food you eat, the stored fat as the energy it needs to rebuild muscle tissue. If this is the case, wouldn't you lose fat, while gaining muscle at the time by strength training? If this is not the case, what stops the body from doing this?
 
I have gained muscle while losing fat - so it is possible... either that or it's that since i've lost fat the muscle is more apparant... but i don't think that's it...

But I also weighed a lot more than the average person...

But for the average person, for muscle to be built, the body needs calories... for the body to function it also needs calories - for the average person eating below maintenance... the body will use those calories to function first before building muscle...
 
Yea, if you have a lot of fat, chances are pretty good that you'll gain some muscle while eating at maintenance or even a deficit. I made post a while back about why the body doesn't *like* to convert fat into muscle.... let me see if I can dig it up.
 
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Here's the post I was talking about:

Let's keep this simple.

Why doesn't our body utilize our existing fat stores as energy, to aid in hypertrophy (muscle building)?

You have to remember this very simple fact. Having an abundance of food at arm's length is a rather new dilemna, in the grand scheme of things. I mean, go back a thousand years and you were not able to eat, how we eat today. And 1000 years isn't that long even. Go back 10,000 years and wow, things were much, much different.

We did not have a continuous food supply. Excess food was not an issue and humans had to develop the ability to survive periods with low to no energy.

Because of this, our bodies want to store excess energy as fat. It is calorically dense and easily stored. On the flip-side, muscle is energetically costly. This means adding new muscle is not a *cheap* process in terms of energy (calorie) utilization.

Add to this, ultimately, aside from the base level of muscle that each of us has, additional muscle is worthless in our *body's mind.*

When the early man found a huge stash of food, he would gorge until he was full and then some. It doesn't take science to tell us that this will result in a gain of fat. He did this so that when the winter came and everything died or ran for the equator, he had enough energy to maintain life during this period.

Mind you, this went on for more years than you can fathom from your short time here on lovely Earth. Adaptation is an amazing thing. It takes a VERY long time to happen. Extremely slow process.

We adapted for survival during a time when food (energy) was scarce.

Back when, if the body decided to use a ton of energy to make muscle instead of fat, you would have stored less gross energy in a tissue that is harder to extract energy from, and ultimately it would have died during food-scarce periods.

To add to this, this is why we have many systems in place physiologically that ensure we don't under-eat. Stop eating for a few days. See how hungry you become. See how your cravings shoot through the roof. The endocrine system, primarily, is amazingly responsive to under-consumption of food.

Flip this. With over-consumption (something that is commonplace this day in age), not so much. Our bodies are relatively weak at detecting over-consumption due to the times long ago.

So, in a nutshell: Our bodies like storing fat for survival even though we don't need it today. Our bodies don't like storing muscle.

Hence, you're not going to find the conversion of fat into muscle as a common physiological act. At least not in the 21st century. Things might be different in the 31st.
 
sounds like a pretty little bedtime story - wheres the facts you are famous for Steve? :)
 
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