Fasting on-line diary

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Hello everybody!
I'm newcomer here.
I start 21 days fasting since tomorrow and going to write here my impressions.If it's interesting keep on watching my diary.
First part of information I'll write here tomorrow about myself.
Thanks ) :)
 
your going to not eat for 21 days... dont think not eating for 21 days will make you lose weight, there a huge list of health problems that can stem from not eating one thing that comes to mind is making your body go into starvation mode where your metabloism all but stops storing every thing you eat after into fat stores.

the more you eat the faster your metabolism goes in turn making you burn more fat

the less you eat the slower your metabolism goes in turn making you store more fat
 
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Grammaton that is a bit harsh don't you think?

I have fasted in the past and it is very healthy for you providing you listen to your body.
Besides fasting does not necessarily mean no food at all!

Juice Fast
Soup Fast
Brown Rice Fast
Water Fast

Its a great way to rid the body of toxins.


Check it out!
It is not such a bad thing!

Good luck on your fast! I am interested to see how well you will do!

3 weeks ago I did a 7 day soup fast and I felt so energized by the end of it!

Another one I recommend is the MASTER CLEANSER. Search for it on-line. It is a really effective and safe one to take part in.

Cheers!
 
i dont mean to be harsh but i seriously dont see anything positive coming out of not eating anything or only eating one kind of food for any extended period of time. a balnaced diet is much better

a i prefer using tons of water to remove toxins, or just try to limit my intake of unnatural toxins.
 
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I have to ask first, is this a religious fast? If so, I admire you for it. I don't believe Gram was too harsh, hes telling the truth. Fasting activates a very primal survival trait our each one of our bodies has in it. Its called "starvation mode". The theort is back in the prehistoric ages, prehistoric man developed a mechanism to keep them alive during times with no food. The body would catabolize muscle in order to conserve energy. The body would also hang on to any bit of fat it could. Fasting can trigger this (only after 3-6 days) and start breaking down muscle. The reason fasting sounds so bad to people like Gram and myself (Im sure others would agree) is the thought of catabolizing the hard earned muscle we've built sounds sickening to us.

If its religious, then your religion is very important to you, good luck with it. If its an attempt to lose weight, please reconsider, there are better ways.

Thanks for reading this post.
 
aevans410 said:
I have to ask first, is this a religious fast? If so, I admire you for it. I don't believe Gram was too harsh, hes telling the truth. Fasting activates a very primal survival trait our each one of our bodies has in it. Its called "starvation mode".
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Ditto.


I used to tell people I was fasting when I had an ED... fasting is the worst thing you can do for your body and your metabolism - it's really not a good thing to do. It's all bunk and yes, after the first week it gets easier, but that doesn't mean it's good for you, or "cleansing" your body.
 
your body is truely a machine, machines need energy to keep going if your body doesnt have energy its not going any where.
 
maximaliZm

Hello everybody
Really don't suppose Grammaton was harsh.He just gave his view and really I'm not against it.I even believe that he tries to prevent people from faults they can do.Meanwhile mine opinion is like that : I don't like maximalism(though I'm maximalist often).Suppose that reaction of organism depends on individual qualities.So one can swallow a stone ( ancient trick of strolling layers ) and after get rid of it.One's tired from 6hours day other doesn't.So it's natural capacities of person.Organism is compared to machine.But comparison is quite primitive one (exusez-moi) will we go into details to speak that machine consists of details and details are made by various producers and quality durability of details is very different.But even in this way we can't compare human organism to machine.We r all from the same fabric but our capacities are different.Yes, of course rulers Gramm declared are to exist they are even more proved that opposites.But there are opposites too.
The reason for fasting is not religion.I just want to put myself to the test.First of all will - not body.If I'll feel bad I'll start rehabilitation.Loosing weight is not the purpose but an advantage.
My organism is not repleted with toxins.I don't smoke don't take pills dont drink coke and almost don't eat junk food( try at leat ).
So..back to maximalizm.Suppose people should leave place in their mind for others arguments.Be able to perceive them.
So now about myself a little.
I have a week of fasting as previous experience.

Weight - 152 pounds
Heigh 5'4

p.s. I'm going to use water only.But thanks Bonny Lass


I'll be keepin posting.

Thanks for reading and replies
 
Umm ok, to each his/her own. To anyone else reading this topic, Fasting isn't safe, its not recommended, please don't try it.
 
aevans410 said:
Umm ok, to each his/her own. To anyone else reading this topic, Fasting isn't safe, its not recommended, please don't try it.
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Agreed. Ive never heard of this before but it sounds like you could do alot of damage to your body.
 
I am stronghold in my opinion. I have worked for families who took alternative approaches to curing cancer by fasting and it is proven to be safe under doctors supervision (sorry should have mentioned this).

I did not indicate it was for the purpose of weight loss.
BTW at my weight for example I would not lose any muscle mass for a 20 day fast. It takes a long period of time to create dammage to the body where your muscle is depleted.

Agree to disagree. I am stubborn with this topic.
 
BonnyLass said:
I am stronghold in my opinion. I have worked for families who took alternative approaches to curing cancer by fasting and it is proven to be safe under doctors supervision (sorry should have mentioned this).
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Theres the difference! Doctors supervision says it all. People like us here at this forum have a tough enough time convincing people that they don't have to starve themselves to lose weight safely. Thats what were about, safety. We don't want anyone hurting themselves. If a doctor tells you its ok to fast, then do it. If a stranger to our forum here sees a post saying someone is going to try to fast, and everyone else wishes them luck, then its like us saying its ok not to eat, when most of us believe it isn't ok. Its ok to disagree, its also ok for you to be stubborn on the way you feel about it. Nobody on this forum since I've been on here has ever put anyone down for their opinion.
 
BonnyLass said:
Agree to disagree.
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Fine.

I think this topic shouldn't really be discussed on this forum because fasting really has nothing to do w/ fitness or health, so I think we all should just end this thread.
 
What i dont understand, And i hope you dont get offended by this but what is the diffrence between this and being bulimic? It seems like it would be worse, At least with being bulimic you eat then get rid of it but with this your not even eating just drinking water.
 
Educate yourselves! lol!

Bulimia is a disease. It involves a poor relationship with food and vomiting the food you have ingested to feel satisfaction and relief.

If you really feel that fasting is a poor choice for a minute part of optimal health then it is your own decision.

However, if you really educated yourself or talked to your doctor about short term fasting, I am sure you would see there is no potential adverse effects.

Cheers;)
 
I have rarely heard of fasting outside of religion or other peace movements but if you are looking for a body test why not put your body under extreme muscle use, instead of bodily fuel deprevation. The problem with fasting and its claim to obtaining inner strength(physically not mentally) is that it is a myth. The human digestive system uses so much energy for decomposing our daily nutrients but depriving your body of substance will not automatically turn "digestive energy" into "brain power" or anything else, it will simply be wasting all that potential energy by doing nothing with it. Breaking out of bodily homeostasis can not result in a physical growth of strength/endurance/speed/ or stamina however, it can create incredible mental will if you do go through with it.
I strongly suggest a test of more sweat and grit though,
For example: Wall sits, I don't care how tough you pretend to be everyone has thier limit, or better still, weight running. Stack some weighted pads on your arms and feet then if your really feeling cocky grab a full body harnes and attach some weight on it and go for a run. But be careful the strain can hurt joints and your spine if your harness is not secure. I have done weight running personally with arm/leg weights and it very notiveably increased my sprinting speed.
Just some food for thought.
 
BonnyLass said:
Educate yourselves! lol!
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Im very well educated on this subject, thank you very much!

BonnyLass said:
Bulimia is a disease. It involves a poor relationship with food and vomiting the food you have ingested to feel satisfaction and relief.
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Correct, and fasting is a practice used basically in holistic medicine and by the Catholic and Muslim religions.

BonnyLass said:
If you really feel that fasting is a poor choice for a minute part of optimal health then it is your own decision.
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It sure is, quit telling us to "educate ourselves" on it.

BonnyLass said:
However, if you really educated yourself or talked to your doctor about short term fasting, I am sure you would see there is no potential adverse effects.
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Hmmm, most doctors I've talked to told me there is no proof that fasting removes toxins. It may lead to gall and kidney stones.

You may not have meant your "educate yourselves" comment this way, but I took it as an insult, and that incited my response.

Let us make our own decisions.
 
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