Exactly how is this food?

Kayshiz

Kayshiz

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I am less and less inclined everyday to believe McDonalds is really food at all, and more of a food like substance.

But this, this is gross.

Isn't food suppose to rot?

Story here:
 
Thats.......scary.

Makes me annoyed to think about how many years I stuffed this crap down my throat.
 
Me too.

The more disgusting I think it is, the less likely I am to eat it.

Yay to healthy eating by default!
 
Even if true, it may not prove anything.

Thomas J. Montville, PhD, former Chairman of the Department of Food Science at Rutgers University and current Professor, is not convinced that Hanrahan’s experiment proves anything about the food’s origins, nutritional value, or safety.

“Cooking kills bacteria, and the result is a sterile hamburger,” says Dr. Montville. “McDonald’s has one of the most stringent food safety programs in the industry, and they cook their meat thoroughly.”

In addition, Dr. Montville observes that Hanrahan’s hamburger lacks fresh ingredients like lettuce or tomato. Without moisture, mold may not grow, but the hamburger fat will spoil and emit a strong odor.

“I think it smells a lot like a dead tortilla, with rancid oil and corn,” says Hanrahan.
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“McDonald’s has one of the most stringent food safety programs in the industry, and they cook their meat thoroughly.” ...With Ammonia!

I don't even care if the burger part is real or fake. McDonald fries do not rot, and that is gross enough for me.
 
Kayshiz said:
“McDonald’s has one of the most stringent food safety programs in the industry, and they cook their meat thoroughly.” ...With Ammonia!

I don't even care if the burger part is real or fake. McDonald fries do not rot, and that is gross enough for me.
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I suppose it's gross if McDonald's is the only fries that do that. Are they? Has anybody tried saving homemade fries to see if they rot?
 
Fries tend to petrify before they rot. Honestly these threads crack me up every time I see one.

I've made home made fries before, had one drop behind the stove or something .. found it months later, hard as a rock, and looking just like "new".

If you cook a burger - regular meat - until it's done done done and let it sit, it'll most likely get hard and stale before it rots. Same with a piece of bread. Hard as a rock, no mold, no rotting, no liquifying.

It doesn't prove anything about the quality of the food. :)
 
Morgan Spurlock actually did try this. It is an extra on the DVD for Super Size Me.
Homemade fries from a diner started to rot in less then a week. McDonald fries didn't. I'm sure this probably goes for all processed fries (From Wendy's to frozen) but real homemade steak fries will indeed mold.

And I agree Kara, either way this proves nothing of the safety or nutritional value, but I'm not gonna lose any sleep at nite believing McDonald fries are just a freak of nature. ;)
 
McDonald's grosses me out but not necessarily because it doesn't rot. It's the amount of additives processed foods have that really bothers me. If you don't know how it's made (or how it's pronounced) - it shouldn't be eaten.

I find organic food rots much faster than regular produce.
 
If you don't want to eat anything of which you don't know exactly how it is made, you'll have a hard time finding suitable food actually.

The whole McDonalds thing is nonsense. Their food doesn't have any more or less additives than any other fast food restaurant, no matter what name they go by. Just seems to have become a hobby of people to demonise McD for some reason.

Any processed food, any food that has not been prepared and cooked by you, has stuff in it that you don't know anything about. Do you really know what every single ingredient is, what every E number stands for? I certainly don't.

Sad fact is that half the time, we don't know what's in our food. We can make choices to stay away from 'fast food' or 'processed food', and that's fine. Everybody should eat what they want, and what works for them. It just irks me that nonsense like this article is being taken seriously. If you don't like it, don't eat it, and get on with it. It's a simple as that.

As a little side note - I make my own bread. Leftovers go on the radiator to feed the ducks in a nearby park. I have bread ends that have been there for months, without a single bit of mould. And all the stuff I used to make the bread was organic (it was an experiment). So....does that mean my organic bread is not real food, because it doesn't rot?

Side note 2 - I used to work for McDonalds for a while, and I'm hardly their biggest fan. But I can reassure you, their burger buns go mouldy if stored incorrectly, and their meat rots, just like everybody elses.
 
San said:
The whole McDonalds thing is nonsense. Their food doesn't have any more or less additives than any other fast food restaurant, no matter what name they go by. Just seems to have become a hobby of people to demonise McD for some reason.
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Whoa, hold on, I have nothing more against McDonalds then I do any other fast food restaurant.
Nor am I saying said fast food eateries shouldn't be allowed to sell food.

I just think fast food fries are gross.
Not an exception of processed foods, but the absolute epitome of. Which is why I eat as little processed foods as I can.

Whole point of my post. Just my opinion. I'm finished.
 
Well I actually LIKE fast food fries. But then potatoes in any form are my weakness and deep fried in hot oil? Yeah. I eat as little processed food as possible, but I still love love love french fries. And McDonald's does make some of the best fast food fries around - especially when they're fresh out of the oil, piping hot, and salty! MMMMMMM.

But Kay, you did start this thread specifically talking about McDonalds food. :) You said:
I am less and less inclined everyday to believe McDonalds is really food at all, and more of a food like substance
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You didn't say "all fast food". So yeah, it does sort of appear that you have something against McDonalds, not just all fast food. I'm not getting snippy about it .. just sayin'. :)

I am in agreement with San that it has become the big thing to demonize McD's in the last few years (not just talking about this post, but as a rule). McD's is no better or worse than any other fast food place, and quite frankly fast food isn't that much better that most general restaurant food.
 
Kayshiz said:
Morgan Spurlock actually did try this. It is an extra on the DVD for Super Size Me.
Homemade fries from a diner started to rot in less then a week. McDonald fries didn't. I'm sure this probably goes for all processed fries (From Wendy's to frozen) but real homemade steak fries will indeed mold.
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McDonald's fries are actually made with top quality potatoes and don't have any preservatives or chemicals in them. What you see is what you get, in that sense.

Kara's right about how fries petrify before they rot. Working in restaurants has taught me a lot about the reality of food and has cleared up a lot of misconceptions about fast food restaurants and what their food really is. I can't defend the meat that's used in fast food restaurants (as nearly all of it, from every restaurant, is mixed with chemical flavorings and preservatives in order to enhance flavor and extend it's shelf life) but I can certainly defend the fries.

The potatoes that McDonald's uses are fresh cut and then IQF (Individually Quick Frozen), which is a process of flash freezing something. No chemicals, no preservatives, nothing. The potatoes are then shipped on refrigerated trucks to McDonald's locations all over the country. Once they arrive at the McDonald's of their destination, they are kept frozen until they are needed to be used. As they are needed, the fries are pulled from the freezer and cooked in untreated oil.

*Untreated = 100% pure oil, with no additives.

Like I said, I can't defend the meat, but I can defend the potatoes.

But, with that being said...I've seen meat that has been sitting around for quite a while and, using my professional experience, I can honestly say that what you see in that picture isn't far from the truth. And, I'll tell you why...

If you leave RAW meat sitting on a counter somewhere for a year, it will get so rotten that it will literally liquify and disappear into a puddle of filth. As the air gets to the RAW meat and bacteria invades the proteins contained with the meat, it will eventually get eaten alive and broken down to such a degree that all parts of the meat turn into liquid.

Now, if you leave COOKED meat sitting on a counter somewhere for a year, that won't happen. The reason that won't happen is because when you cook meat, you are changing it's chemical makeup. You are literally changing it's scientific composition. For instance, putting heat to protein will "cook" it, which is nothing more than a drastic change in it's chemical makeup. The protein tightens and seizes upon itself, which firms up the meat as you cook it. Protein fibers in meat, when raw, will stay "loose", which makes raw meat have a floppy consistency. Protein fibers in meat, when cooked, will tighten up, which makes cooked meat have a firmer consistency. Anyway, as these changes occur, so do the potential reactions from bacteria and air. This is exactly why the cooked meat in that picture doesn't look like what you would expect it to.

FYI - The potatoes used for the fries also go through changes as they are cooked, which is why they don't look like what you would expect them to.
 
Best Fries around

I always kind of felt like commercial fry s like McDonalds were more of a cheaper version of the kind of you get in more sit-down pub style places to eat.

Any truth to this?

I just kind of felt like the frys at the local brew pub were of a higher quality.
 
I don't know about the differences between pub fries and MacDonald's fries... I'm partial to homemade fries with olive oil, cayenne, and garlic powder (mmm!).
An important thing to remember is big chains employ psychologists, scientists, and a whole arsenal of professionals to figure out how to make us enjoy their food more and thus buy their food more often. They add "smoke" flavour to burgers, "burger" flavour to french fries, sugar to EVERYTHING, and whatever they can to make the food taste better. Things like the perfect sugar/fat ratio and even the text used on menus - they consider it all. I'm not trying to demonize big companies, but to remind everyone that profit is their main concern. Not that I don't enjoy McDonald fries every once in awhile, I just know that they are loaded with salt, sugar and grease and are therefore "junk food".

This is an interesting articly about McDonald's fries:
 
I like McDonald's and eat there about once a week. It hasn't helped me lose any weight but it's never made me ill and as long as I don't eat there everyday I can still keep losing.

Probably shouldn't be having fast food at all though. But I like it too much.
 
foods that are rich in nutrients will promote and help maintain good health.

so take foods that are good for you.
 
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