Don't know what route to take for abs...

Hey guys. I'm male, just turned 24, I'm 5'5 short, and weigh a whopping 114 pounds. I have a pretty small frame too. Everyone thinks I'm skinny, and from the stats I gave you I'm probably considered underweight, but my shirt seems to cover up what's really there.

Of course I'd like to get a six-pack sometime, but, I really want to focus on just getting a "blend". Like, my stomach overhangs, and I don't want that. I want it to blend into below the stomach, like I see a lot of other guys have.

I started doing cardio every other day (about 3 miles a day), just for me legs and stamina. Not sure if it'll help with the ab portion though.

I really don't know what to do to get the blend. Do I need to lose the fat in that area first? (And if so, how? Since I'm already underweight, I don't wanna go to 100lbs!). Or am I at the point where I need to do ab workouts?
 

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3 main things you will need to do is eat healthy, decent cardio work, and exercises.

One of the best ab exercises to do is the Leg raises, There killer at the start if you haven't done them before.

Also take a look at these links they will get you on track:

http://training.fitness.com/weight-loss/how-get-abs-guide-18219.html
http://training.fitness.com/nutrition/nutrition-101-a-32846.html
http://training.fitness.com/nutrition/lvs-grocery-list-19098.html

If your going to use supplements:
http://training.fitness.com/supplements/smart-supplementation-12232.html

Hope this helps.
Good Luck!
 
Thank you for the links. This seems like it's going to be a lot harder than I thought... I wanted to see "some" change within 2 months, for a special occasion which is my motivation, but the nutrition part seems extremely complicated, and I don't want to accidentally lose more weight. Hrm... I'll at least start on the ab workouts as per your suggestion, and continue my running.
 
i would start lifting weights too, dont just work your abs but do a full body workout 3 times per week and add some whey protein supplement to your diet.
 
Alrighty, so I have a follow-up question.

I don't have weights; instead I have resistance bands. I asked my bro if he had weights and he doesn't, but his fiance has the P90X workout series and said I could borrow it until I'm done.

Do you guys think P90x would help me? Plus eating more?

And I'll have to read up that whey protein stuff. Always seemed pretty nasty to me, hehe.
 
The bottom line is you will lose weight as it will come off everywhere, not just from your abs, unless you add muscle by doing weight training. Get a basic dumbbell set which is not very expensive and go for it.
 
Hey guys. I'm male, just turned 24, I'm 5'5 short, and weigh a whopping 114 pounds.

Understand your personal particulars.

I have a pretty small frame too. Everyone thinks I'm skinny, and from the stats I gave you I'm probably considered underweight, but my shirt seems to cover up what's really there.

I think it is fairly safe to say, young man, you need to build some muscle on your frame, and are carrying a little extra body fat, which is normally termed as skinny-fat. Which can basically mean that the muscle mass to fat ratio is a little off, but its nothing you can not fix with a little bit of self education, work, and patience.

Of course I'd like to get a six-pack sometime, but, I really want to focus on just getting a "blend". Like, my stomach overhangs, and I don't want that. I want it to blend into below the stomach, like I see a lot of other guys have.

This is my short opinion:

You have two problems at present: 1. Not enough muscle muscle mass (basically your frame is skinny), 2. You are carrying (a tad excess body fat), which alters your body composition and hides the muscle composite you do have.

Focus attention on learning proper nutrition, construction of a strength training routine (with high energy), lifting form, and focus on getting stronger. The rest will follow once you've built up a good foundation.

Though what works from one person to the next will vary, what is termed as "orderly control" within one's lifestyle is another way of saying you have to have some degree of control (or simply apply enough of you) to earn the goal you seek. Within your specific circumstances, this is going to mean some control on your diet and some consistency in fitness training, and adapting (nutrition, calories) where applicable dependent on the nature of your personal feed back.

I assume you never trained or applied some principled diet approaches before, is this assumption correct?

1. Determine your personal calorie needs (BMR Base, + activities)

2. Get an approximation of your "normal" or "near normal/average" macro nutrients in grams, and determine these ratios through the calorie ranges used.

3. Set up a resistance program tailored to the equipment you have available, and enable it at least 3 to 4 times per week.

I don't have weights; instead I have resistance bands. I asked my bro if he had weights and he doesn't, but his fiance has the P90X workout series and said I could borrow it until I'm done.

Do you guys think P90x would help me? Plus eating more?

Advising you just to eat more, is just too generic and simple. Basically a person, can plow down food stuff/items, perform a resistance program, and get fat.

There needs to be some purpose, self control, design and purpose, behind it to attempt to limit the bad, and solicit as much good as possible.

Resistance Bands, adjoined with body weight training, and some experimentation with items around the house, can do the job. And do the job quite well, with your personal goals in mind.

Reference the p90X:

Its seems a lot of people get the idea, that one has to primarily weight train to lose tissue and/or stay in shape, etc, etc. Well, dependent one's personal goal, this is simply not the case. There are vast number of ways to go about it, not limited to Weight Training.

One of the highlights of this program (of what limited knowledge I have of it), is that it focuses on "expending high amounts of energy" in a series of fitness exercises (including body weight), and this would fit within your limited equipment you expressed.

Coupled with a diet supporting your goal, this is very "beneficial" toward the application of your goal wants. Additionally, it doesn't really require fancy equipment, so on base principle.....its not a bad program. I actually like the body weight and "expending high amounts of energy" focus it provides. Primarily because when losing tissue "expending quality energy" is critical for fat loss, and it does focus on that. Additionally, it focuses on progression and strength, all of which are beneficial in varying forms.


Best wishes

Chillen
 
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Thank you all for your replies!


Understand your personal particulars.

I think it is fairly safe to say, young man, you need to build some muscle on your frame, and are carrying a little extra body fat, which is normally termed as skinny-fat. Which can basically mean that the muscle mass to fat ratio is a little off, but its nothing you can not fix with a little bit of self education, work, and patience.

This is my short opinion:

You have two problems at present: 1. Not enough muscle muscle mass (basically your frame is skinny), 2. You are carrying (a tad excess body fat), which alters your body composition and hides the muscle composite you do have.

Focus attention on learning proper nutrition, construction of a strength training routine (with high energy), lifting form, and focus on getting stronger. The rest will follow once you've built up a good foundation.

Though what works from one person to the next will vary, what is termed as "orderly control" within one's lifestyle is another way of saying you have to have some degree of control (or simply apply enough of you) to earn the goal you seek. Within your specific circumstances, this is going to mean some control on your diet and some consistency in fitness training, and adapting (nutrition, calories) where applicable dependent on the nature of your personal feed back.

I assume you never trained or applied some principled diet approaches before, is this assumption correct?

1. Determine your personal calorie needs (BMR Base, + activities)

2. Get an approximation of your "normal" or "near normal/average" macro nutrients in grams, and determine these ratios through the calorie ranges used.

3. Set up a resistance program tailored to the equipment you have available, and enable it at least 3 to 4 times per week.

Advising you just to eat more, is just too generic and simple. Basically a person, can plow down food stuff/items, perform a resistance program, and get fat.

There needs to be some purpose, self control, design and purpose, behind it to attempt to limit the bad, and solicit as much good as possible.

Resistance Bands, adjoined with body weight training, and some experimentation with items around the house, can do the job. And do the job quite well, with your personal goals in mind.

Reference the p90X:

Its seems a lot of people get the idea, that one has to primarily weight train to lose tissue and/or stay in shape, etc, etc. Well, dependent one's personal goal, this is simply not the case. There are vast number of ways to go about it, not limited to Weight Training.

One of the highlights of this program (of what limited knowledge I have of it), is that it focuses on "expending high amounts of energy" in a series of fitness exercises (including body weight), and this would fit within your limited equipment you expressed.

Coupled with a diet supporting your goal, this is very "beneficial" toward the application of your goal wants. Additionally, it doesn't really require fancy equipment, so on base principle.....its not a bad program. I actually like the body weight and "expending high amounts of energy" focus it provides. Primarily because when losing tissue "expending quality energy" is critical for fat loss, and it does focus on that. Additionally, it focuses on progression and strength, all of which are beneficial in varying forms.

Best wishes

Chillen

Thank your for the great advice. It makes me feel much better that I'm getting advice that is more specific to my needs, like as you said each person is different.

And yup, I've never had any diet approaches before, I just ate whatever and didn't really care. Now I will attempt to record what I intake on a normal day to see where I am at.

I started the P90x workout program 2 days ago, so I did two of the training exercises on there. Let me tell ya, it was pretty hard for me to get through the hour exercise for both times, but I managed. I'm pretty sore now too, I can't even extend my arms out fully from side to side. Not sure if that means it's "working" or if I overdid it. It was still fun overall though, the host makes it a fun program and makes me laugh. :D

I think I'm going to go to a place that sells fitness equipment and see what their price ranges are on barbells or whatever, so I can do some of the weight training aspect. Last time I checked prices they were incredibly expensive though...

But I'm pretty serious about getting in shape, so I'm gonna do everything I can without breaking the bank to get in shape! Whenever I run, it makes me feel so much better about myself, so I want to keep feeling good, even if it takes awhile to get in shape.

Thanks for all your help guys!
 
Thank you all for your replies!




Thank your for the great advice. It makes me feel much better that I'm getting advice that is more specific to my needs, like as you said each person is different.

And yup, I've never had any diet approaches before, I just ate whatever and didn't really care. Now I will attempt to record what I intake on a normal day to see where I am at.

I started the P90x workout program 2 days ago, so I did two of the training exercises on there. Let me tell ya, it was pretty hard for me to get through the hour exercise for both times, but I managed. I'm pretty sore now too, I can't even extend my arms out fully from side to side. Not sure if that means it's "working" or if I overdid it. It was still fun overall though, the host makes it a fun program and makes me laugh. :D

I think I'm going to go to a place that sells fitness equipment and see what their price ranges are on barbells or whatever, so I can do some of the weight training aspect. Last time I checked prices they were incredibly expensive though...

But I'm pretty serious about getting in shape, so I'm gonna do everything I can without breaking the bank to get in shape! Whenever I run, it makes me feel so much better about myself, so I want to keep feeling good, even if it takes awhile to get in shape.

Thanks for all your help guys!

Look on Craigslist, or the WantAdvertiser or in your local paper. People buy tons of exercise equipment brand new, try it for 2 months, give up, and then sell it at a great price barely used. :action11:
 
Thank you all for your replies!

Thank your for the great advice. It makes me feel much better that I'm getting advice that is more specific to my needs, like as you said each person is different.

You are welcome. The best diet (IMO), is one that is tailored to the individual, the individual goal wanted, and there simply needs to be some type of personal control mechanism applicable to the person to get the job completed.

The type of control mechanism can vary as well. I bring this up, because your diet is going to be important to you, and how you apply this within your lifestyle.

I think a lot of the reason 'people get fat' or gain fat too much fat on a bulk (as an example) because is there is a "tendency" to just flip the restraint switch to off.....

"Bro, I need a quart of ice cream at bedtime to grow." I better drink skim milk with those Oreos. Or I better have a diet coke with those McDonald's fries. :). For example.

They end up taking in far far far too many calories (above and beyond what's needed) and the fat accumulation is disproportionate, and they become dissatisfied with results. They tend not to play ball within certain parameters as compared to one on deficient in calories to lose good fat tissue.

Why do the restraints come off on a bulk versus the applicable restraints related to cutting? This can be an individual issue.

A properly controlled bulk can often be just as much of a pain (in terms of tracking/controlling calories) as dieting to lose tissue. But in the end, it is wise, if one wants to control the amount of fat accumulation.

I bring this up, because you are new, and likewise eyeballing what you are eating and how much you are eating is the cornerstone in determining whether you are falling within your personally outline dietary perimeters.

Though I advocate tracking calories (macro nutrients), I also know this can be rather tedious and some cases unpractical for some individuals--dependent on their lifestyle.

If its practical and one has time (honestly, and aren't bitching cause they just don't like it), I say simply "suck it up".

Until....you get to the point where you can just "eyeball" your portions sizes (and calories, etc from the package), and use one's brain as the computer to calculate the numbers on the fly....without writing them down.

Its sort of like putting training wheels on a bike for a child, after a while they are not necessarily needed anymore.......to get the job completed, but...were at first.

Therefore, you have to somehow (for you) develop a controlling strategy to know what and how much you are eating. There is really no way around this obvious fact.

What are you going to do in the area of calories and macros?

I'm pretty sore now too, I can't even extend my arms out fully from side to side. Not sure if that means it's "working" or if I overdid it. It was still fun overall though, the host makes it a fun program and makes me laugh. :D

Being sore after working out (with you being so new) is very common. It can be uncomfortable, but it is not an uncommon process/experience for a person in your position. To put this simply, just think of it as your cells rebuilding/recovering after experiencing new applied stress, and its adapting to the experience. :)

ROCK WITH IT! :)

I think I'm going to go to a place that sells fitness equipment and see what their price ranges are on barbells or whatever, so I can do some of the weight training aspect. Last time I checked prices they were incredibly expensive though...

How much room do you have? How much money to spend? Do you want advice (with the money have) on what to buy for.....your circumstances?

But I'm pretty serious about getting in shape, so I'm gonna do everything I can without breaking the bank to get in shape! Whenever I run, it makes me feel so much better about myself, so I want to keep feeling good, even if it takes awhile to get in shape.

Thanks for all your help guys!

You don't have to break your bank to get into shape within your specific personal fitness perimeters.

Yes, feel good about improving your body and well-being.......!!

This is what its about.

I can assist you anymore, let me know.

Best wishes,

Chillen
 
Thank you again immensely for your advice!

I was one of the people that gave up one thing and added it with another. Like, I gave up drinking soda at work, but now I'll have a drumstick-ice cream break at 4pm; probably not a good trade-off. I'm gonna have to cut back on stuff like that.

The thing I'm unsure of the most is what is really bad to eat and what is not. For example, the family got Little Caesars pizza tonight. So I'm trying to eat more, but I'm unsure if eating more of something like pizza was a bad choice (I usually have 2 slices, and I had 3 tonight). Other than that, I've heard that eggs, white meat and dried fruits and nuts are good for what I'm trying to do, correct me if I'm wrong, so I'm going to try to eat more of those. I'll probably start keeping track on Thursday after my midterms are over and I can dedicate to writing down what I eat, until I get used to what I'm intaking.

About the money concern... I just paid my college tuition for the semester and other bills, so I've only got about $250 in the bank unfortunately, and I don't want to spend all of it at once. I'd be happy to spend $100 on anything if I needed, but if I need more money I'll have to wait a couple weeks for the next paycheck. I guess I will take the advice of looking in the paper or Craigslist for used equipment. And since I live with my parents still, I only really have my bedroom which is cluttered as is, for stuff. If I needed a bench, I'd have to get one that folds up onto the wall if they make those.

Anyways, thanks a whole bunch again!
 
Thank you again immensely for your advice!

Again you are welcome.

I was one of the people that gave up one thing and added it with another. Like, I gave up drinking soda at work, but now I'll have a drumstick-ice cream break at 4pm; probably not a good trade-off. I'm gonna have to cut back on stuff like that.

If you have a degree of control and can stay within your diet perimeters (mainly referring to calorie allotment, defined macros-over 90% of the time), having this in moderation isn't going to impact your goal want that significantly especially in the the position of being new to training, and basically no history of putting some screws on the diet.

The thing I'm unsure of the most is what is really bad to eat and what is not. For example, the family got Little Caesars pizza tonight. So I'm trying to eat more, but I'm unsure if eating more of something like pizza was a bad choice (I usually have 2 slices, and I had 3 tonight).

This can depend.

Specifically for you: Pizza in general has a lot of calories, and can have a surmountable portion of carbohydrates (dependent on the type) and how much is eaten. Again moderation is the key point here, and knowing the ballpark calorie perimeter of your calories at this point will assist in telling you how much you can eat. In addition, its not a bad idea to take some time to Google the place you are going to eat, and see their nutritional information pertaining to their menu to get a ballpark idea of calories and macros. This way you can have an understanding, and just control your portion size/or how much you eat of what you may order.

Other than that, I've heard that eggs, white meat and dried fruits and nuts are good for what I'm trying to do, correct me if I'm wrong, so I'm going to try to eat more of those.

Eggs, White Meat (such as Turkey, Chicken, Albacore Tuna), and dried fruit (such as Raisins) are fine.

I'll probably start keeping track on Thursday after my midterms are over and I can dedicate to writing down what I eat, until I get used to what I'm intaking.

This is absolutely good to hear. You may want to look into Fitday.com and see if this will fulfill your needs.


Edit: You may want to consider a training/diet journal on the forum to keep you accountable (and us informed :)) of your progress. You can ask questions, and have a venue of getting them answered.

Best wishes for your continued success,

Chillen
 
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