diets

Ok so at 46 years old im new to the dieting world.I introduced myself in the fitness area for newcomers.

over the years you see so many adds so many pills (which I dont want )

Anyways ,whats going to work for lifestyle change better?

Low cal?

Low carb?

Ive already cut out all sugars and allot of breads,I do eat whole wheat every once in a while ,Im trying to stick to high protein but I do not like chicken that much..never did or turkey..how ever I have used ground turkey instead of ground beef..not bad at all

I just had a physical and my cholesterol is really good ..

Im just looking to shed about 20 -30 lbs and keep them off through good eating habits and and some walking .

Any suggestions?
 
Hey

Its good youve already stated some options you can do such as walking. Maybe afrer a couple weeks you could step up or notch, or choose better alternatives such as walking the stairs instead of an elevator etc, if you add all these up through the day it will make such a difference.

Forget about those low carb diets etc they are redicously bad. Obviously you have to eat a little under your maintnance, try and change any bad habits you have to good ones. The mediterranian diet for example is excellent, fruit veges fish etc. As you said you want to cut out those processed sugars which are full of calories and inhibit fat loss.
 
Forget about those low carb diets etc they are redicously bad. Obviously you have to eat a little under your maintnance, try and change any bad habits you have to good ones. The mediterranian diet for example is excellent, fruit veges fish etc. As you said you want to cut out those processed sugars which are full of calories and inhibit fat loss.

+1

Too many diets try to sell you on some "technology" or science. We've seen low-carb, low-fat and all sorts of combinations. The Wrangell teaches us that it's not what you eat that makes us gain weight, it's eating too many calories that makes us gain weight.

(To learn more about The Wrangell do a google search under hockey-coach, beer and grumpy old man. :D

Just today I was eating some chicken wings at a carnival and I was thinking how the skin was still on it. Sure, the protein is low-cal....but the fat is not. The thing is, a gram of fat renders our bodies with about 9 calories, whereas a gram of carb gives us about 5 calories, so common misconception gives rise to the notion that the carbs will make me fat while the higher-calorie-per-gram fat is just fine. Ughhh!!!!!!

Here's the primary key: to lose weight, you must consume less calories then you expend....and do it on a consistent basis so that your overall weekly/monthly balance is a calorie deficit. That's it. Exercise will help burn more calories and has other tremendous health benefits, but it still comes down to how much goes in vs. how much goes out.

If you want to make your whole diet about Cake, Candy, Coke & Cookies (The four basic health dis-service groups)...you can. BUT you'll be far healthier if you avoid:

Sugar
High-Fructose Corn Syrup
Trans-fats, hydrogenated fats, bad oils
Refined carbs (which act like sugar)
Stuff with additives, preservatives, flavorings
4-legged meats (beef, pork, etc)
Anything fried
Beer that comes from a tube & funnel or is intravenously fed to you :D

We'll call this the....hmmm...ugh, Junk-food group! Your body burns these very quickly and the fast rise in blood-sugar will cause an over-kill response in your pancreas to release insulin which in turn will store the excess sugar in your fat AND drop your blood-sugar so fast that in short time your body will be feeling hunger again. It's a cycle. Eventually it can lead to Insulin Resistance (Pre-diabetes) and then full-blown diabetes! Ain't life grand? The American Diet is literally "Killer"...but with the sharp rise in obesity, heart-disease and other diet-related symptoms...the good news is that medicine is making money and developing ways to keep unhealthy people alive longer! Isn't that fabulous? ;)

On the flip-side, we could eat what works best for us:

Lean meats (turkey, chicken & fish)
Fruit & vegetables
Whole grains
Very few things that come in packages and have expiration dates

These foods will digest slower and give you a nice & gradual rise in blood-sugar, you wont' store as much as fat and you'll feel fuller longer....and overall eat less. These eating habits alone will promote a leaner & more healthy body, add exercise and now you're turbo-charging your progress!

Here's a simple test I use: when you are hungry, ask yourself if you are hungry enough to eat an apple. Yep, a plain & boring apple. No caramel, no nuts, just a plain & simple apple. In ancient times an apple would be considered what we today hold as tasty as a candy-bar! If you are hungry enough to eat an apple, you are truly hungry. If, on the probably other hand, you aren't very interested in eating an apply....then you aren't truly & honestly hungry for bodily-needs & nutrition, you're hungry for something tasty, interesting and probably evil.

I know, the truth bites, blows & sucks all at the same time. Now you have to ask yourself if you really want it. And don't lose weight to get in shape, live longer and have a healthier life...or even to feel better about yourself. Do it so that all the woman around you have someone to fantasize about when they.....:cool:

(Someone report me to the mod's, I'm clearly out of control and I think I like it) :D
 
Don't lose weight to get in shape, live longer and have a healthier life...or even to feel better about yourself. Do it so that all the woman around you have someone to fantasize about when they.....:cool:


And yes, I did consider if the OP was female!

Sweet
Super-Sweet
Hella-Sweet!!!! :D
 
If you want to make your whole diet about Cake, Candy, Coke & Cookies (The four basic health dis-service groups)...you can. BUT you'll be far healthier if you avoid:

Sugar
High-Fructose Corn Syrup
Trans-fats, hydrogenated fats, bad oils
Refined carbs (which act like sugar)
Stuff with additives, preservatives, flavorings
4-legged meats (beef, pork, etc)
Anything fried
Beer that comes from a tube & funnel or is intravenously fed to you :D

We'll call this the....hmmm...ugh, Junk-food group! Your body burns these very quickly and the fast rise in blood-sugar will cause an over-kill response in your pancreas to release insulin which in turn will store the excess sugar in your fat AND drop your blood-sugar so fast that in short time your body will be feeling hunger again. It's a cycle. Eventually it can lead to Insulin Resistance (Pre-diabetes) and then full-blown diabetes! Ain't life grand? The American Diet is literally "Killer"...but with the sharp rise in obesity, heart-disease and other diet-related symptoms...the good news is that medicine is making money and developing ways to keep unhealthy people alive longer! Isn't that fabulous? ;)

While I agree with most of what you said I just want to point out two things. First I don't think that one should be afraid of the "four legged meats" that you mentioned. It is very easy to get very lean cuts of beef and pork. That little extra amount of saturated fat on there isn't something to worry about, and can even help the body out.

Also on the list you mentioned trans fats and bad oils. These as well as the meats do not cause a spike in your insulin. The sugars and corn syrup and beer and such will spike your insulin, but fats and proteins have little effect on blood sugar levels.
 
Amp,

VERY true & enitrely accurate. I just didn't want to get too particular or split hairs for simplicity sake. Plus, I like to leave enough reader interest to hit the jokes! :D

All you mentioned is accurate. In fact, there's much info that support eating red meat as PART of a diet. There are beneficial ingredients (such as CLA in beef) and other nutrients.....but the meat should be lean, organic-fed and all that healthy stuff. By in large, most the 4-legged meat available are generally not as healthy as it's organic-fed counterparts. I've seen too many Atkin's and meat-lovers start their diet by pounding the baby-back's thinking it's all good. Let me amend to 4-legger's in moderation and healthy cuts/sources. :)

And yes; protein & fats are digested relatively slowly (having a low glycemic index). For that matter, many dieters make the mistake of not eating good fats. Fats from nuts, avocade, salmon and other nautral sources are INCREDIBLY healthy and invaluable & beneficial to our diet.

Points taken....it's just that we can't give the OP an entire nutritional summary in a single post. But you are right! :)
 
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Ok so at 46 years old im new to the dieting world.I introduced myself in the fitness area for newcomers.

Ive already cut out all sugars and allot of breads,I do eat whole wheat every once in a while ,Im trying to stick to high protein but I do not like chicken that much..never did or turkey..how ever I have used ground turkey instead of ground beef..not bad at all

Im just looking to shed about 20 -30 lbs and keep them off through good eating habits and and some walking .

Any suggestions?

" shed about 20 -30 lbs " - over what sort of time frame ...i.e in how many months ?

How is your overall fitness level ...at least in your view ?

For example, have you participated in any sort of sports / exercise in the recent past ?
 
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" shed about 20 -30 lbs " - over what sort of time frame ...i.e in how many months ?

How is your overall fitness level ...at least in your view ?

For example, have you participated in any sort of sports / exercise in the recent past ?

I have no idea about time frame..sports ..not really ..not anyway lately..I did just have a physical and it was great..all cholesterol levels good..stress test was excellent
 
I have no idea about time frame..sports ..not really ..not anyway lately..I did just have a physical and it was great..all cholesterol levels good..stress test was excellent

Good to hear...congrats !

On dropping the 20 - 30 lbs...is this something your doctor suggested ? How is your GP with your weight btw ?

In terms of ' time frame ', the reason I asked is because you can ( for example ) modify your activity/ exercise levels and dietary habits to either target a goal losing a .5 lb of fat a week or even 1.5 - 2 lbs of fat a week. The strategy of fat loss may be the same in either case, but the tactics may differ somewhat depending on your goal. In any event, it's always better IMO to set measurable goals for yourself in the context of clear and realistic expectations IMO.

Given your stress test is excellent, do have any interest or reservations about doing something a bit more robust ( from a cardio perspective ) .....other than walking ?

And, do you have any interest in trying some resistance training ?
 
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It's not that you left stuff out, it's that you got stuff wrong.

No, it's just that I generalized. There are many nutritionist & doctors who really push people IN GENERAL to avoid the saturated fats that are found more heavily in red meats.

And on "my list" was trans-fats & bad oils. Amp pointed out that fats & proteins don't spike sugar, but these were on the list merely because they're bad for you, not on account of their effects on blood-sugar.

It's pretty simple Sara. Are you still upset cause I called you the Anti-Chillen? ;)
 
Ok so at 46 years old im new to the dieting world.I introduced myself in the fitness area for newcomers.

over the years you see so many adds so many pills (which I dont want )

Anyways ,whats going to work for lifestyle change better?

Low cal?

Low carb?

Ive already cut out all sugars and allot of breads,I do eat whole wheat every once in a while ,Im trying to stick to high protein but I do not like chicken that much..never did or turkey..how ever I have used ground turkey instead of ground beef..not bad at all

I just had a physical and my cholesterol is really good ..

Im just looking to shed about 20 -30 lbs and keep them off through good eating habits and and some walking .

Any suggestions?

Listen up. And, listen real good, and read between the lines of this post.

The basic and fundelmental guidelines of diet and fitness is what you need to learn. Once you obtain this knowledge, then being able to apply and modify this knowledge to your "specific" lifestyle in accordance to your likes, dislikes, and applicable activity, will be the key to guide you ("at your determined speed") to your goal. Once you have the basics understood, and as time passes and you learn more advanced methods you then can take some science behind it and blend this in to tweak certain areas of diet and fitness to better or improve your goal path.

The basic and fundelmentals of diet and fitness is the absolute super glue that allows the more advanced methods to work, and dont forget it. Knowledge is the essential key. Persistence and consistency of this application into your lifestyle is the other essential ingredient. In addition, you need to apply "enough of you" to get the goal you want and desire completed.

If hiring a personal trainer/nutritionist is out of the question, then YOU have to become the personal trainer and nutritionist within your lifestyle and work in something that works.

Once you obtain this knowledge, believe me you can obtain enough information to be able to adapt to changing situations in your life, adjust on the fly, and still maintain your goal path, if you just apply "enough of you" to get it done. Believe me when I tell you, all it takes is diet and fitness knowledge and being able to percieve it correctly and adapting it to you and to your lifestyle.

I am 46 years old. And, right here within this post, is all I have ever done. I am motivated, content, and very happy, because I have learned HOW to apply the knowledge learned within my life. And, so can you.


Go here and read on some basic and fundamental information:

Weight Training 101

Nutrition 101

Weight Training Technical Articles

How to get abs guide

Go here for some thoughts on the mental side:

Weight Loss Intricate


The ChillOut Log by Chillen
(allot of pages to go through, but there IS good information that may help you if you take the time to seek it)
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I wish you the best in all that you in life and in fitness,

ROCK ON! :)


Chillen
 
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It's not that you left stuff out, it's that you got stuff wrong.

Or perhaps you meant to say

It's not that you left stuff out, it's that you got stuff wrong ;)

The ;) makes all the difference....it just seemed like you came out of the woodwork to slap me down. As Wrangell once said; attack the body & content of what someone writes, not the person writing it. If you know it pisses me off, why do it?



That was a pretty unnecessary bashing. He did agree with the guy that corrected him originally.

Bingo & thanks!

Yes, there was a concession/correction made on my part. The oils are on the 'bad list' not for their sugar-effect but in general (or are we gonna start talking the benefits of trans-fat?). And red-meat, unless organically fed and hormone free are very much under the gun nowadays. Amp was clarifying.

Oh now don't' everyone jump on the hate sara bandwagon.

I can't decide......

Is there any other Sara bandwagon to get on?

-OR-

The sara bandwagon has seating capacity? I'd thought that bandwagon had long since filled-up. Sign me up!




Where's the winky-face now??? :eek:
 
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The oils are on the 'bad list' not for their sugar-effect but in general (or are we gonna start talking the benefits of trans-fat?). And red-meat, unless organically fed and hormone free are very much under the gun nowadays.

I can't really think of any "bad" oils/fats besides transfat. Would you say coconut oil is bad for you because it's 90% saturated fat? But it is full of medium-chain triglycerides and lauric acid which are good for you.

Organic/hormone free is more of a humane issue because the nutritional value of the meat doesn't change very much. They may pick up a few more vitamins, minerals and fats from eating grass and bugs but the protein/fat and calorie content is pretty much going to stay the same.
 
bioooooootch we abouts to rumble

No, but I'm not your boyfriend anymore and don't even think about grabbing my ass again! ;) (As if that gimpy wrist of yours could handle it anyways)

Your boyish charm and weak attempt at humor leaves me no choice but to accept your passive-indirect apology. But hey, when next you wonder why people mistake you for being hostile...re-think what you're writing. I wasn't the only one who interpretted what you wrote as being ice-tea...I mean, nasty.
 
I can't really think of any "bad" oils/fats besides transfat. Would you say coconut oil is bad for you because it's 90% saturated fat? But it is full of medium-chain triglycerides and lauric acid which are good for you.

Organic/hormone free is more of a humane issue because the nutritional value of the meat doesn't change very much. They may pick up a few more vitamins, minerals and fats from eating grass and bugs but the protein/fat and calorie content is pretty much going to stay the same.

What about organic palm oil?

Just asking because its in my natty PB

Good questions....

I've gotta run to the gym to swim and then have dinner with the racquetball buddies. Let me gather some resources and further address these questions later tonight.

In short, the oils that come from plants tend to be very good for you (palm, coconut, avocado)...and the saturated oils that come from animals tend to be bad for you....or so the overwhelming gross majority of clinical research and studies report to us.

As for the red-meat thing....there are studies that suggest we should never put it in our mouths, and others that suggest moderate consumption has benefits: like most things, it's a matter of which studies, research and info you want to subscribe to. The range of thought is both vast and often in contradiction. I've got a couple resources (books) that get pretty elaborate about how evil the sat-fat & red meat are, I'll see what I can find that seems reasonably rational and worth looking into...and we can pick it apart later. With any luck we can all be eating Double Western Bacon Cheeseburgers and feeling great about our diets! :rolleyes:

The one thing I can never get past is what I see in the frig (left-overs) the day after we eat any beef: that nasty waxy thick white stuff.....no way in hell I want that in my body! Some 23 years ago a dirtbike crushed my left knee and it swelled-up so bad they had to drain some 200cc's of blood...and on top of that pool of blood was tiny bubbles of fat; the doctor looked at me and said "this will plug your arteries and give you a heart-attack"...and I'm telling you, that nasty stuff didn't come from fruit, cereal or yogurt!
 
Oh now don't' everyone jump on the hate sara bandwagon. Bikeswimlaugh and I are friends and it was friendly ribbing to try to get him to admit he was wrong (which he hates! :D)

My bad. :11doh: I wasn't hatin' on anybody, and didn't know you two were chummy. I misread your post due to the lack of the all important smilie. :)

Carry on....I'm heading back to the rock I crawled out from under.
 
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