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I need help on how to get my shoulders more defined. I want them to stick out farther(to the side) and I really what that "U" under my shoulder, seperating it better from my bicep. What can I do to help me get that? I already do the basics in my shoulder routine: overhead press, high pulls, front and side raises, and shruggs...
 
dunno what a high pull is. standing barbell row, narrow grip perhaps? if so, skip those as they are hell on rotator cuffs.
Don't neglect the rear delts: bent over raises for direct work...bent over barbell rows, pullups, and seated rows for indirect work.

As for 'more defined'...definition comes from building larger muscle mass, and stripping down the top layer of fat. The lower your body fat, the more cut you look.
 
For wider shoulders you need to add bulk, and for the cut 'U' look between your shoulder and arm, you also need to lower your body fat percentage. You should be lifting low reps to strengthen and broaden your shoulders.
 
Butterflies work the rear delts as well as pecs. You can usually change the setting so your arms extend further behind you. The further, the better.
 
Butterflies work the rear delts as well as pecs. You can usually change the setting so your arms extend further behind you. The further, the better.
 
malkore said:
dunno what a high pull is. standing barbell row, narrow grip perhaps? if so, skip those as they are hell on rotator cuffs.
Don't neglect the rear delts: bent over raises for direct work...bent over barbell rows, pullups, and seated rows for indirect work.

As for 'more defined'...definition comes from building larger muscle mass, and stripping down the top layer of fat. The lower your body fat, the more cut you look.
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yea, that's what I'm talking about when I say high pulls, i've been doin them really light with high reps, should I still skip them? I guess I should add the bent over raises, and all the others I do when working back...

I've been doing to high rep thing with most of my lifts, because I am a motocross racer and am not looking to put on a lot of weight, just strengthen, lower body fat and build endurance
 
For strength but little to no mass, keep the sets low as well as the reps. Make it heavy. I am talking like a 4 reps x 2-3 sets kind of deal.
 
LeiYunFat said:
For strength but little to no mass, keep the sets low as well as the reps. Make it heavy. I am talking like a 4 reps x 2-3 sets kind of deal.
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I've always heard/read the opposite. To gain mass do heavy weight, low reps. To gain rippedness, burn fat, do higher rep sets...
 
Hypertrophy is typically 8-12 reps x set for 3 sets.(size)

Strength is <5 reps for 5 sets or less.

Strength is designed to have your mind and your muscles be able to take a larger load and become denser, rather than cause failure and recruit size.

If I am wrong about this someone please correct me, but that's typically the way it goes.
 
LeiYunFat said:
Hypertrophy is typically 8-12 reps x set for 3 sets.(size)

Strength is <5 reps for 5 sets or less.

Strength is designed to have your mind and your muscles be able to take a larger load and become denser, rather than cause failure and recruit size.

If I am wrong about this someone please correct me, but that's typically the way it goes.
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I RECKON YOU ARE MORE THAN RIGHT!! LOL
 
high reps with light weight doesn't make you more cut looking...it does train you to do a lot of low weight reps though (i.e. endurance training)

LeiYunFat's rep ranges are correct...getting 'ripped' is really about shedding fat to show off the muscles underneath.

I know people that lift heavy year round, and simply adjust diet, and maybe add some cardio, when they want to lean out.
 
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