Catalysing fat burning

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thewatcher

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Hi,

I've come across claims that tea and coffee, but especially tea and especially especially green tea, help with fat burning, and that it's not just that the caffeine is boosting your heart-rate and helping you exercise longer before feeling tired - there are actually chemicals in them that help the body break down fat.

When I research "fat-burners", it seems to me that these are all basically stimulants - they help you burn fat by speeding up your metabolism.

I don't like green tea, and I don't want to take stimulants for obvious reasons (I'm trying to get healther - not go to an early grave). Am I right about these fat-burners being basically "legal speed"? Are there any foods that can help fat burning by catalysing the fat-burning process, i.e. just making it a little easier for the body to get energy from stored fat, without being a stimulant?

TIA,

Graham
 
In short, no. Just eat healthy, and exercise.. anything else that is legal/safe/not-stimulant is trivial.
 
limestix said:
Caffeine / Ephedrine [stims]
Omega 3 / Fucoxanthin [non-stims]
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Thanks. I didn't know that about Omega 3. Actually, I already take a cod liver oil capsule a day. Looks like another reason why I should be eating more fish.

Fucoxanthin is quite a rare thing to find in natural ingredients, isn't it?

Graham
 
Mreik is right.....dare I say, as usual ;)

When you exercise (or even when you exist) your body needs energy....and that energy comes from several stored sources; there's really nothing you can do that will make the body decide to burn more energy from stored-fat.

As for "metabolism"...stimulants seem to offer two benefits: they increase our heart-rate and seem to make the body run faster AND they tend to decrease our appetite. But let me say this (from vast observation & experience), you can't stay "high" all the time and sooner or later your body takes inventory of what's happening and tries to persuade you to maintain.

Quick example: I took my trainer mountain bike riding...she burned a lot of calories and really tore into using some muscle she hadn't used (as such) in the past. We had a light meal, she drank lots of green tea and due to the endorphins she wasn't terribly hungry...BUT over the course of the next couple days she reported being EXTREMELY hungry and she ate more. What happened? The body knew it was running a deficit and hunger was stimulated. Sooner or later our bodies find the time & opportunity to try to recoop lost or depleted energy.....like a thermostat (or "set-point" theory) our bodies fight and strive to maintain a certain weight...and even the busiest person can find time to shove a 3,000-calorie meal down their throats, and often it's at the worst time....just before they go to bed.

Anyways.....there's green-tea, citrus-based stuff and all sorts of substances that are supposedly able to aid & help with burning fat and reducing appetite...but in my 1.5 years of battling the fat off my body, I've found the most critical ingredient that makes 99% the difference is what lies between your ears. If you want it bad enough, you'll make it happen and once you move towards that goal and lifestyle (without drugs & aids) it gets easier and easier. Coming to rely on drugs, substances and weird-science to gimmick ones way toward weight-loss is just a short-term solution.

Move more, eat less, eat healthy.....don't expect it to happen overnight nor expect to see changes in the mirror. It's a very long-haul journey but the journey begins with the first step....and when you get there, you'll certainly agree it's one of the best things you've done in your life.

Real quick, about the only thing I would suggest is making sure you drink plenty of good water....THAT is said to help metabolize fat as well as flush toxins from your body! :)
 
thewatcher said:
Hi,

I've come across claims that tea and coffee, but especially tea and especially especially green tea, help with fat burning, and that it's not just that the caffeine is boosting your heart-rate and helping you exercise longer before feeling tired - there are actually chemicals in them that help the body break down fat.

When I research "fat-burners", it seems to me that these are all basically stimulants - they help you burn fat by speeding up your metabolism.

I don't like green tea, and I don't want to take stimulants for obvious reasons (I'm trying to get healther - not go to an early grave). Am I right about these fat-burners being basically "legal speed"?

TIA,

Graham
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Why do people look for an outside source to deliver? :violent:

Victory comes from having a capable human commander (within you) and handling your own internal propaganda and personal political government.

(Chillen)

Handle your mental politics, appropriately.

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May you never look at "Washing", "Drying", and "Folding", the same again:


Wash yourself in "common sense" in all attempts in your journey, and then dry yourself with "Mental Static Cling" to unstick the brain cells to allow a over flow of WILLPOWER to overcome obstacles, and then "fold" yourself into "Intelligence" to stay in the journey!

ROCK ON! NEVER, EVER, GIVE UP!......Don't under estimate your beating heart inside you!

You DO NOT NEED DIET PILLS.
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Here is some simple ADVICE.

If you get bit once, this isn't NICE.

So, Chillen has a warning, please do not get Shafted-twice by a claimed fat-loss Device for you would have paid twice the Price.

And when you are:

Shafted-twice by a claimed fat-loss Device for twice the Price, you will need a breathing Device and some head ICE and common sense will become more PRECISE.

Fitness admission PRICE: FREE; manipulation of diet, which can include chicken and brown RICE

One's goal asking PRICE: "Applying enough of you" will SUFFICE.

And, when you are finished. PRICELESS.
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No problem can withstand the assault of sustained thinking.

No problem can survive, when decision-making is so intense you can escape only by thinking.

Believe me. When I tell you that you will have far more internal battles to conquer "within you" than battling market-hyped and fake over-the-counter fat loss pills.

Most cannot conquer this demon.

And, it is by far the most ruthless. Fat loss pills will not cure this disease. I promise.

Can you handle Mr. or Mrs. "ruthless?"

Ruthless has no power unless given.

This cannot hurt you unless you allow it.

Master your internal premises.

Throw your thoughts of "fat loss" connected to Green Tea (and its extracts variants) in the trash, and replace it with:

Belief in yourself:

Enhance your confidence to believe in yourself and your decisions. Trust your own mind to think well and cope with the basic challenges that life throws at you.

Increase your self worth – believe that you are entitled to be happy and to receive the rewards that your deserve for the efforts that you make.

And, if you fail in your efforts, you don't have a choice but to get back up if you want it.

If you don't, then stay down and you will get a like reward.

If you walk the diet and fitness road, their is a TOLL for the personal GOAL

PAY IT, and

ROCK AND ROLL!

Are there any foods that can help fat burning by catalysing the fat-burning process, i.e. just making it a little easier for the body to get energy from stored fat, without being a stimulant?
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YOU, and there is no equal.

Be proud that you are the most advanced Fat Burning machine within the universe and you have two arms, two legs, and a brain to empower YOU.


Every breath you TAKE.
Every movement you MAKE.
Every feeling you PARTAKE.
Do not MISTAKE what will bring heart ACHE because they are FAKE: Over-the-counter FAT-BURNERS


Every breath you TAKE.
Every movement you MAKE.
Every feeling you PARTAKE.
Do not MISTAKE for your SAKE what will BAKE your goal CAKE: The Deficit Diet and Exercise

It is TRUE, all Fat Burners are POO-POO.
STEW the NEW YOU by drinking the diet and exercise BREW and the NEW YOU will DEBUT.

You have all the power within YOU! SEEK IT. FIND IT. USE IT.

You will be forever, grateful.

Creativity:

True creativity simply starts with balancing your emotions and activating the power of the heart. Through practicing emotional management from the heart, you tap into the highest form of creativity possible--recreating your perceptions of reality.

(Chillen)


Everyone is special in their own RIGHT

Have your heart show the internal LIGHT with all your MIGHT

Your soul will burn BRIGHT and will keep you in the FIGHT!

ROCK ON! :)


Chillen
 
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Thanks for all the replies.

I hope I didn't sound like I was hoping to get lean by sitting on the couch. I was really just seeing if there was something I should know about which could persuade my body in the most natural way possible to take energy from fat. But the point is well made and understood that there are no cheats available that are healthy and achieve long-term results.

I'm still gradually losing weight and seeing myself looking leaner, so I guess I'll carry on as I am. I do drink sufficient water most days, but I might occassionaly lapse, so I'll try to make drinking enough water a daily habit.

Thanks,

Graham
 
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