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Pack'n
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Whats the best way to hold on to muscle while trying to cut the stomach:SaiyanSmilie_anim:
Lifting heavy and plenty of protein. Calorie deficit should'nt be too large. Try -200 rather then -500.
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Definately possible. I have a friend who dropped his body fat by about 5% and still managed to add about 1/2" to his arms during a contest prep.
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Pack'n
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So what y'all are saying is you can only mitigate muscle loss
Yes, I think this is acurate. You can mitigate or minimize the amount of muscle loss, with proper diet deficit and overall weight training (the weight training will provide the body the assistant stimulant to try to hold on to the muscle it has).
Think about this. When one cuts (even if they manipulate the ratios of protein, carbs, and good fats), there reducing the amount of energy to the body, mainly through deficit dieting.
The composite of muscle is more nutrient dense. And when the body starts to look for--------more energy it WILL look in both places: Muscle and Fat.
however, with this in mind, the more important elements are the total circumference of the diet nutrients, rather than just the over rated and over hyped protein.
Just one essential organ not getting what it needs, will hamper progress, and you can take all the protein you want until the sun goes down, its not gonna help ya. The body works as a machine and together as one unit, and protein is just one important element among many other important elements the body needs. Its a small peice in the larger pie.
Protein is NOT the muscle breaker nor muscle maker--in itself--when considering OVERALL circumference of what the body needs, its just a play enumerator. IF it were, lets remove steroids, and we would have a different (what they call) professional body building competition set. Its difficult growing muscle naturally or to develop more muscle, and whats more important is the overall circumference of nutrients and calories.
Therefore, the answer is NO, one cannot maintain in "totality" the same muscle mass as when they bulked as compared to when they cut, there may be exceptions, but in general this is true. In general, the poll results are wrong--as far as the "yes" votes. And, no protein---in itself--is not the MAIN answer to assist in maintaining mass, like I said, its an important element in the equation, but among other important ones.
Think about this. When one cuts (even if they manipulate the ratios of protein, carbs, and good fats), there reducing the amount of energy to the body, mainly through deficit dieting.
The composite of muscle is more nutrient dense. And when the body starts to look for--------more energy it WILL look in both places: Muscle and Fat.
however, with this in mind, the more important elements are the total circumference of the diet nutrients, rather than just the over rated and over hyped protein.
Just one essential organ not getting what it needs, will hamper progress, and you can take all the protein you want until the sun goes down, its not gonna help ya. The body works as a machine and together as one unit, and protein is just one important element among many other important elements the body needs. Its a small peice in the larger pie.
Protein is NOT the muscle breaker nor muscle maker--in itself--when considering OVERALL circumference of what the body needs, its just a play enumerator. IF it were, lets remove steroids, and we would have a different (what they call) professional body building competition set. Its difficult growing muscle naturally or to develop more muscle, and whats more important is the overall circumference of nutrients and calories.
Therefore, the answer is NO, one cannot maintain in "totality" the same muscle mass as when they bulked as compared to when they cut, there may be exceptions, but in general this is true. In general, the poll results are wrong--as far as the "yes" votes. And, no protein---in itself--is not the MAIN answer to assist in maintaining mass, like I said, its an important element in the equation, but among other important ones.
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I must be misunderstanding you; we break down the protein we consume into amino acids, the body can then use those Amino acids to build muscle. Therefore Protein is the muscle maker. Other nutrients are needed for our body to function of course but without those amino acids muscle can't be made.
Am I missing something?
CCR that statement means this: Its one element in a composite GROUP that causes and/or can cause muscle growth---along with proper stimulant, rather than JUST protein.
For example, if one is deficient in a vitaman, or synethis isnt occurring optimally because of lack of other nutrient ratios, protein ISNT going to help even if its present....if something in the equation is missing (and im not talking just amino acids).
The opposite is true. If there isnt enough protein, and the other nutrients as a whole are present, then the same can happen. See what I mean?
I was just saying the body needs a proper "balance" of everything, and protein is just one essential element.
Let me give one indirect example: I can consume high amounts of protein (or what is approximated I need for my wgt), eat right, and lets say ratios are good, BUT I am in deficit caloric diet......am I going to grow large muscles? Answer: NO. One has to remember, too, that not all protein type foods have all the essential amino acids, therefore if the DIET itself is lacking in this area, this can effect muscle growth as well, even if protein is high.
I didnt mean to be harsh, and apologize, if I seem that way. You should know that. I was trying to help with the question
For example, if one is deficient in a vitaman, or synethis isnt occurring optimally because of lack of other nutrient ratios, protein ISNT going to help even if its present....if something in the equation is missing (and im not talking just amino acids).
The opposite is true. If there isnt enough protein, and the other nutrients as a whole are present, then the same can happen. See what I mean?
I was just saying the body needs a proper "balance" of everything, and protein is just one essential element.
Let me give one indirect example: I can consume high amounts of protein (or what is approximated I need for my wgt), eat right, and lets say ratios are good, BUT I am in deficit caloric diet......am I going to grow large muscles? Answer: NO. One has to remember, too, that not all protein type foods have all the essential amino acids, therefore if the DIET itself is lacking in this area, this can effect muscle growth as well, even if protein is high.
I didnt mean to be harsh, and apologize, if I seem that way. You should know that. I was trying to help with the question
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HUGE THANKS to y'all for the sweet debate.:SaiyanSmilie_anim:
I didn't take it harsh at all. I just felt like the PsnInQues felt strongly about what he felt to be true
I didn't take it harsh at all. I just felt like the PsnInQues felt strongly about what he felt to be true