A Matter of Can't or Won't: Your Thoughts?

mrdavidoriol

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In the US 73% of the people are either fat or obese. Are they really that ignorant about nutrition as to chronically over eat?

If they are ignorant is it by choice?

Fat people are fat and 95% of them stay fat. What is your theory as to why?

Can anyone come up with a valid reason (not an excuse) for why people can't get thin and stay thin?

Don't hold back.
 
There are many factors..not just one.

Course the counter to this isn't pushing 'elite weight loss packages' as a solution.

You wouldn't know anything about that would ya?
 
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mrdavidoriol said:
Can anyone come up with a valid reason (not an excuse) for why people can't get thin and stay thin?

Don't hold back.

1. They are not willing to put in the effort to eat healthy

2. They are not willing to put in the effort to be physically active

In this industry, it is our job to motivate people to do one or both of these things.
 
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1. They are not willing to put in the effort to eat healthy

2. They are not willing to put in the effort to be physically active
Why is that?

I think that's where it has to start. Figuring out why they aren't "willing" to put in the effort. Too many programs designed to fight obesity neglect the mental side of weight loss, and when you're dealing with the morbidly obese, there are often mental issues that need to be resolved or else you find people putting on the weight they've lost again.
 
I would add

3. They don't realise why the choices they make aren't healthy or don't lead to weight loss.

I think I was firmly in this category. OK, I wasn't hugely active- I walked everywhere (a couple of miles a day most days) but not much more than that. And I thought I ate healthily- follow the food pyramid, right? I was trying to lose weight and didn't realise why I wasn't- I ate a diet based on starches with more than the recommended serves of fruit and vegetables, not as much meat as most people had, low fat everything, almost never going for junk food. I even forced myself to go hungry sometimes, as I was told losing weight could only happen when you were hungry! And I couldn't shift the weight- until I realised the importance of calories. (My diet hasn't changed significantly- I still eat lots of fruit and veg, I still limit my intake of meat to once a day or less, I still have starches with most of my meals. My principal change has been looking at the starches and changing them based on calories. Oh, and I never go hungry anymore. And probably eat junk food more than I used to)
 
Why is that?

I think that's where it has to start. Figuring out why they aren't "willing" to put in the effort. Too many programs designed to fight obesity neglect the mental side of weight loss, and when you're dealing with the morbidly obese, there are often mental issues that need to be resolved or else you find people putting on the weight they've lost again.

Exactly... it can be boiled down to "they aren't willing," but there are always so many reasons why someone is at the point they're at. The key is to figure out the barriers - whether they are mental barriers or other barriers - and try to get around them.
 
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3. They don't realise why the choices they make aren't healthy or don't lead to weight loss.


That's such a good point. It's so hard to get all of the right information... You can bang your head against the wall for ages thinking that you're doing all the 'right' things, then you find that one last piece of the puzzle, and 'click,' it starts to work!
 
Well I think it's a combination of advertisements specifically made to entice people to eat food; a lack of willpower from people; and a lack of knowledge about healthy lifestyles.

In my personal experience, I found it really difficult to commit to exercise, mainly due to the belief that I had to commit a lot of time to do it properly and my dislike for aerobics, which I believed to be the only way to go due to a lack of equipment. So instead I tried to stick with counting calories, a process I found tedious until I thought about using a food diary that made it way more efficient and convenient. In addition to that, I had no appetite control due to the lack of exercise, resulting in me giving up in the whole process.

The reasons it's working out for me now is because 1) I don't exercise that long 2) it's not aerobics anymore (woohoo!) 3) I found low-calorie foods that I love 4) food diary makes it super convenient to count calories
 
I love that we can address this here at this forum. I'm also a member of sparkpeople, and let me tell you if I even brought this up, people would jump all over it.

There are a lot of people who say "it's too hard" or "I don't have time" or whatever excuse they can think of. The thing is, it TAKES WORK. People don't understand that working out ONCE a week isn't going to get you anywhere, especially if you don't fix your eating habits.

Yes, there are a lot of lazy people out there who just come home from work, put on their pajamas, and plop down in front of the couch for the afternoon/evening. Hell, I used to be that person.

People always try to look to other reasons to be motivated-weddings, parties, vacation, kids, etc, but if they themselves are not a factor for their own motivation, then it's more likely they'll run out of steam.
 
In the US 73% of the people are either fat or obese. Are they really that ignorant about nutrition as to chronically over eat?

If they are ignorant is it by choice?

Fat people are fat and 95% of them stay fat. What is your theory as to why?

Can anyone come up with a valid reason (not an excuse) for why people can't get thin and stay thin?

Don't hold back.

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In today's society, people are not working phsyical jobs anymore like they used to do back in the day. Also, cost of food has gone up and people are more likely to eat out because it's cheaper than to cook. People can't get thin nowdays because they there is too much hype about people hurting fat people's feelings. There is too much sugar coating and too many people being politically correct. There is also the welfare....too many people getting free money for what?--to sit on their butt, producing children when they can't even take care of, faking medical problems, and you can go on with the list. Depending on where you live, people do a lot of complaining when it comes to the weather. If it's hot out, I hear people say that they have to stay indoors just so they don't "overheat"...same thing with winter. I hear a lot of people here where I live say that they have to stay inside and watch tv and eat. Does not getting enough vitamin D have anything to do with weight gain? I think there is some connection between the two. Another problem (and we all have done this) is when we have a bad day, we go home and eat to cure our problems. Another problem is that all the fun stuff to do for example boating, snowboarding, etc....because it's too much work to get ready for it and it costs money. Also, it's the spouses fault too.....I will use myself as an example...i was on the fast track of being overweight and my boyfriend basically had enough of watching me get fat and not have any energy for anything....he got after me and told me he wanted me to have a better quality of life and at the time there was a weight loss challenge....so i joined the challenge and listened to my boyfriend and lost 30 lbs in 90 days. I think that if we don't say anything to our spouse, then we are being selfish.

Thats my input.....

Does anybody have anything to add to this? I would like hear what other people have to add to this list of things.
 
Exerciseforlife, I agree with some of the points that you made. Especially that fewer people are working physically demanding jobs, the cost of healthy food has gone up, and that many activities (snowboarding, boating, etc.) are expensive.

A lot of it still boils down to the fact that people want to lose weight without putting any effort in.

If you are gaining weight because you sit at a desk all day long, then you need to be active outside of your workplace, find ways to get up off of your butt during the workday, or get a new job where you are on your feet more often.

Generally, people who are overweight eat too much. Yes, healthier food items might be more expensive (although I tend to disagree with this, as a bagful of produce is much cheaper than a bagful of processed foods...). However, people who buy processed food and are overweight tend to eat more than they are supposed to anyways, so they are likely overspending on food because what they are lacking in quality, they are making up for (and more) in quantity. I would rather spend more on higher quality food, but eat the appropriate portions. So yes, you might have less food in your fridge after a shopping trip, but you will be less likely to over-consume.

As for the activities being expensive... yes, I can see that that can be quite discouraging, but people are more than willing to spend money on eating out, alcohol, movies and other activities that are not great for one's health. So, it's often more a matter of priority and proper budgeting.
 
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