a few questions, i have a few gaps

FattyDaddy

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ok so i got my BMR, from what I read I want to target for max 70% of that to lose weight?

I will be hitting the treadmill daily. Is 2x a day better?

3500 calories = 1 lb of fat, how do i know how far walking / jogging how many calories i have burned?

whats the difference between calories and fat? i read a label that says 3g of fat, does this matter more than calories?
 
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you will be able to set up your profile information and log your food and exercise.

It will calculate based on your general activity level and exercise how many calories you burn in total. Also how many you eat so that you can see whether you deserve weight loss.

Fat in diet is one of the nutrients that we eat. There are other things like protein, fibre, calcium, sodium. Fitday will give you a full nutritional breakdown of your food.

Read the nutrition section to learn how to deduce healthy nutritional targets and hone your food so that you hit those targets.

In the meantime - try to eat as healthily as possible - with no junk and follow the rules for nutrition that you have developed over the years.

You may care to visit the diaries of one or two successful weight losers to see what they are doing...
 
ok so i got my BMR, from what I read I want to target for max 70% of that to lose weight?
No.

Your BMR is your BASE metabolic rate. What you need to survive if you do nothing other than lie in bed all day and breathe. Cutting to 70% of your BMR will probably put your calories too low. You need to know your MAINTENANCE calories (i.e. the number of calories you should eat to maintain your current weight) and eat at 70% of that number.

An easier way to do it is to estimate somewhere between 10-12 calories per pound of current body weight for weight loss.

3500 calories = 1 lb of fat, how do i know how far walking / jogging how many calories i have burned?
Don't worry about it. Don't become obsessed with the numbers. Eat at your 70% deficit, exercise 3-6 times a week, and see what happens. The numbers are only estimates anyway.

Also keep in mind that you don't lose only fat. When you diet and exercise, you lose fat, water, and muscle. Ideally you want to maximize fat loss and minimize muscle loss ... so exercise both using the treadmill and by lifting weights, make sure you get enough protein (1g per pound of body weight), and eat healthy foods.

whats the difference between calories and fat? i read a label that says 3g of fat, does this matter more than calories?
Calories and fat are completely different things. Calories are the measure of energy that food produces and that your body produces. Don't obsess over the various numbers. Watch your calories and your balance of nutrients. They all matter equally, but when it comes to weight loss, you need to keep your calories to that 70% number.

Like Omega said, register for a site like fitday.com and start logging your food. It will become much clearer as you see the numbers.

Also as Omega said, there are links in my diary (below in my sig) to what I do every day, how I exercise, how I eat.
 
Cutting to 70% of your BMR will probably put your calories too low. You need to know your MAINTENANCE calories (i.e. the number of calories you should eat to maintain your current weight) and eat at 70% of that number.
i read all over i dont see what that means. the math comes out the same. I am 6' & 230. my BMR is 2150 so 70% is 1505, and the way you said 10 calories x230=2300 70% is 1610. pretty close. is that correct? what is maintenence calories? i been readin on here for days and still confused :banghead:

i eat way too much and too much junk so this is vital for me to understand and GRASP :)

i still dont understand the difference between watching fat intake and calories intake?
 
i read all over i dont see what that means. the math comes out the same. I am 6' & 230. my BMR is 2150 so 70% is 1505, and the way you said 10 calories x230=2300 70% is 1610. pretty close. is that correct? what is maintenence calories? i been readin on here for days and still confused :banghead:

i eat way too much and too much junk so this is vital for me to understand and GRASP :)

i still dont understand the difference between watching fat intake and calories intake?

A calorie is a measurment of energy.. and fat is basically stored energy. If you are burning calories you are essentially burning energy. Watching calorie intake and fat intake are kind of the same thing.... To lose weight, we count calories though. If you watch your fat intake but are still eating more calories than it takes for your body to burn you will not lose weight or fat for that matter. Healthy fat is good fat and don't let anyone tell you anything different. (like in avacados, natural cheeses, and nuts)

..Some people will tell you a 20% protien, 30% fat, and 50% carbs split is best.. and some people prefer a different sort of split.

What it all comes down to though is you burning more calories than you consume. Take the advice on getting on fitday or thedailyplate to log calories and set specific nutrition goals for yourself. It gets waaay easier as you go, I promise!

Also.. with your calorie counting..
230lb(14 calories/lb) = 3220 to maintain your current weight
230lb(12 calories/lb) = 2760 to gradually lose weight.

There are about 3500 calories to a pound. So if you stick to 2760 calories a day you should lose about a pound a week. Like Kara said.. 10-12calories/lb is a good calculation to use to lose weight.. Anything less is not the healthiest idea and might leave you super duper hungry.
 
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Thanks you. i registered on there and been playing with it but its all Chinese to me so far lol. just trying to figure out what to eat and not eat.

whats your opinion on appetite suppressants? i am hungry all day, everyday, nonstop :(
 
i still dont understand the difference between watching fat intake and calories intake?
Ok, I see the problem here. :)

First of all you need a clear understanding what a calorie is, which I see you don't have. You're confusing calories with nutrients, so until you understand the difference, you're not going to understand how you figure your calories.

A calorie is a unit of measure. That's all it is. All food can be measured in calories. So if you have a food that is primarily fat, it can be measured in calories. If you have a food that is primarily carbs, it can be measured in calories. If you have a food that is primarily protein, it can be measured in calories.

I'm trying to think of an analogy that will explain this and here's the closest I can come up with.

Say your boss tells you to give him a pound of paper of mixed colors. There are 3 colors in the that you can choose from: red (fat), blue (protein), and yellow (carbs).

So you gather up a bunch of sheets and you count the red paper (fat). You give the packet of paper to your boss and he asks "how much does this weigh?" and you say " there are 22 sheets of red paper". That's a useless answer right? Because 22 sheets of red paper has nothing to do with 1 lb of weight.

So if you're supposed to take in 1500 calories a day, then what good does it do you to say "oh I ate 32g of fat"? That's only part of the answer. What about everything else you ate? What about the calories you ate from carbs? What about the calories you ate from protein? What about the calories you consumed from alcohol?

Counting just fat is like counting those pieces of paper. Ok, you know how much red paper you have, but you don't know anything else.

Now .. if you understand what a calorie is, in relation to your food:
i read all over i dont see what that means. the math comes out the same. I am 6' & 230. my BMR is 2150 so 70% is 1505, and the way you said 10 calories x230=2300 70% is 1610. pretty close. is that correct? what is maintenence calories? i been readin on here for days and still confused
You're overthinking this and making it WAY more complicated than it has to be. Take a step back and start over.

First of all I didn't say 70% of 10 calories per pound. I said 10 calories per pound to lose. Period.

If you lie in bed and do absolutely nothing except breathe, your body burns a certain number of calories, right? It's the amount of energy you need just to exist, just to breathe and for your heart to beat and so forth.

That's your BMR. Your BMR can be figured out by using the Harris-Benedict equation. For men the equation is this:
66 + (13.7 x weight in kilos) + (5 x height in centimetres) - (6.8 x age in years)

If I plug your numbers into that equation (and I'm estimating your age at 30 just for an average), I get 2436 for BMR. (Again: BMR are number of calories you need to survive if all you do is lie in bed and breathe.)

So ... what about the rest of your life? What about getting up, going to work, walking around, driving, eating, taking a shower? All of those other things that you do as a part of your daily life that take calories. In other words, the calories you burn AFTER you get up out of bed and do more than just breathe?

That's your MAINTENANCE calorie level. According to the Harris-Benedict equation, a moderately active adult calculates their maintenance calories by multiplying their BMR by 1.4. For you, that comes out to 3410.

To lose weight, you want to eat about 70% of your MAINTENANCE calories.
So if you wanted to STAY the same weight, you'd eat 3410 calories.
To LOSE weight, you eat 70% of that number, or 2387 calories.

And if you make that really simple, then you say your weight (230) x 10 calories per pound = 2387 calories to lose weight.

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So take all of that together to answer your last question? The reason you're hungry all the time is because if you're only eating 1500 calories, then you're not eating enough.

Pills won't help. Eating the right amount of calories and making sure you eat HEALTHY FOOD (protein, carbs, and fat) is what will keep you from feeling hungry.
 
thanks that helps. the lsoe weight just started yesterday and when i say im hungry nonstop i mean i could eat 2 double cheeseburgers and be hungry in 30 minutes lol, i wanna not be hungry.
 
i mean i could eat 2 double cheeseburgers and be hungry in 30 minutes lol, i wanna not
Is it really hunger? A lot of people who are use to eating a lot of food confuse hunger with other emotions. They want food - they want to eat - they want comfort - they want to socialize ...

None of those things are really hunger. If you just ate 2 double cheeseburgers, it's HIGHLY unlikely that you're REALLY hungry 30 mins later. It's much more likely that you're using food to fill another emotion or to relieve boredom.

Really think about whether you're hungry or just using food for some other purpose. :)
 
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