65 pounds in 6 months, what next? advice needed

Hello everyone. In a need of advice I've come across this forum and thought someone
might help me and lead in the right direction. It all started in Feb last year when
I suddenly went on a really strict diet, desperately trying to lose weight. Dropped
out everything unhealthy, really everything. Also did some exercises
(crunches, pushups, riding bike, 11lbs dumbbell etc). At that point I was ~210lbs.

couldn't find a proper pic of my body before, but here's the progress pic i've made:




In 6 months I lost about 65 pounds.
First month was a real pain, trying to beat hunger and working out. When I got used to it,
my routine was like "insanely many crunches and many repeatings of all the exercises".
I actually was doing it all, every day, for all muscle groups... Never really tought of doing
it properly so that muscles could rest (mon:arms, tue:chest/back wed:abs etc...) :S
Anyway, after 4 months I bought orbitrek and was doing 2x20mins every day on it, together with
other exercises (started to eat a bit more, mainly proteins). By the end of the summer
I looked unrecognizable. My parents were freaking out 'cause they tought it was anorexia...
I had to stop the diet in September. Since then I haven't really been workin out hard (2-3 times a week)
mainly because of school and parents. I've also started to eat more but still healthy.

So... After a long story, lets start with the important stuff. This is me now:










Im 17 y old, 5'9 and 150lbs. I couldn't really get much muscle mass 'cause of the diet. Also I couldn't
burn the remaining fat so looking kinda screwed now... I think the main problem is
fat stomach and should burn it first (but try not to lose this little muscle i have), then start building up mass.
Not really happy with the way I look now, but HIGHLY motivated to do everything to change that. Last
month I started again.

Here's what i've imagined for the next 6 months:

Feb - Apr = getting rid of fat on the stomach (diet, mainly focusing on ab workout and orbitrek)
Apr - Jun = each day 1 or 2 muscle groups, 5-6 days a week, eating a bit more (at home, getting prepared for the gym)
Jun - Aug = at the gym, harder workout combined orbitrek and swimming

This is what I've recently come up with, don't know if it makes any sense or if it's possible.
I want to start fully prepared, not like a noob last time. It would be really nice if anyone can be bothered to give
me some useful advice or go into details how to start off, what kind of diet, which exercises or anything else...
I've read all the stickies, but I'm not the expirienced one to know what would be the best for me.
Apologies for spelling mistakes, english is not my mother language.

Every reply is much appreciated, cheers! :)
 
Do you know what your body fat percentage is like? If it's quite low already then you might be best trying to gain muscle now rather than lose the last bit of fat. It could just be that you don't have enough muscle in place to show through strongly.

Also, what kind of diet are you on? Is it just your old diet but restricting calories?
If it's a quick drop you're after and you haven't tried ketogenic diets yet then they can be good for dropping that last bit of fat
 
I agree with Typhon there. You are pretty lean now and might consider doing some muscle again for next 2 months and then continue the cut phase for spring / summer season. Honestly, you look pretty decent and now it's just chiseling time. Flipping the switch from weight lost to weight gain feels really weird at first. I made mistakes of just eating maintaince when I thought I was over eating. Then, I ate too much carbs and fat over Winter holiday and gain some weight. What I learned from bulking phase for me is to eat more carbs and cut back on the fat while keeping protein intake at 1g per lb of body weight.

Good luck man, and you did GREAT for 6 months so far already. Keep it up and I like your mentality of self-criticism but make sure it's CONSTRUCTIVE instead of destructive and use it to motivate yourself without degrading yourself. Awesome progress.
 
Hey man, congratulations, I can really see the transformation :)

May I ask what your diet is? (That is if it wasn't purely cutting the rubbish totally, but a more set diet?)
 
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I've never really bothered to check my BF but I'll try to measure it tomorrow
using those guides on the web or might ask around if someone has that digital
thingy...
About the stomach - i've been doing ab workout for quite some time and
i can actually feel every muscle, but theres still some fat covering it. Seems
i should lose it, on the pic it looks kinda ok but when sitting it's worse.

Indeed it is wierd to gain weight again, im still kinda scared that i might get back to my old look :yelrotflmao:

And the diet... Firstly it was like 1000 or less cals, really low carbs and everything, galons of water etc. It was more of a torture than a diet tbh. Now since the new year I've tried some kind of a protein diet... It's something i thought out myself. I actually don't make any food plans/schedules like what shall i eat on monday or friday morning. I just try to eat mostly high-protein food like low fat milk n yoghurt,peanuts,tuna,chicken breast,high prot/low fat soft cheese, eggs, white bean, nuts and other stuff i find at home. Making some milkshakes aswell (still without whey or other supplements). No idea how much cals it is now, guess its not over 1500. Trying to eat 4-5 times a day, never after 8pm, but sometimes it messes up cause of my shi**y school schedule.
I combine my diet with arms/chest,back/abs workout (7days/week). Still no cardio but will add it soon.
It's day 1 - arms, day 2 chest/back, day 3 - abs, repeat, lasts about 30 mins.

Thanks for ur tips and congrats, looking forward to seeing more! :D
As i am willing to do anything in the next 6 months, just feel free to 'prescribe' (not just recommend :p) me a diet (abs),
anything that should give good results soon before i go harder on other parts.

Much appreciated
 
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Great progress man! Lookin good.

It would be best if you could come up with what your average diet looks like so we could polish it and add in our thoughts. Just rember the key rule: Calories in > Calories out = muscle and fat gain. Calories in < Calories out = loss of fat.

And know that ab work outs do not burn your stomach fat. To get your stomach in shape defintly keep workin those abs about but rember the muscle you are targeting does not burn the fat around it. Cardio diet cardio diet!

Good luck! Keep up the great progress
 
Your coming along fabulous man! Keep it up.


One thing i have noticed trying to look better is that all that "fat" that is covering your abs isn't really much fat at all. Its just layers of skin and some fat over your abs. I know it sounds dumb, but if you use the next 2 months as a bulk/lean muscle gain cycle you abs will look much better than if you cut first. Its not that your abs are covered in a "layer" of fat, its just that they are not large enough to protrude definitively out of your skin.
 
Thanks for your reply :)

I can understand with the education side blocking your eating schedule.

I personally think that every diet should contain a bit of everything, not excluding certain things, our bodies need every type of food to function properly!

Also I agree with wilhelm, for those abs to show you need some bulkage, start with the protein shakes and natural proteins from meats and other products, you'll probably need some weights too?


Goodluck! :)
 
Great work! I agree with the previous posters, gain muscle and don't worry as much about the last bit of fat. When you build some more muscle your metabolism is going to speed up anyway.

Really good job!!!!!!
 
Excellent progress! :beerchug:

I know what you mean about your 'rents thinking you've become anorexic, I've gotten lip from friends and family ever since I started to lose weight.

I was 160+ lb at age 18, and I'm only a mere 5'3" tall. After looking at myself in some pictures, I decided I wanted to lose weight. I flat out stopped drinking soda, eating fast food (Except the occasional In N Out Burger, can't ever give that up! Ha), started eating regular meals instead of snacking, and no late night snacking either. At the time I was more focused on losing weight, which I successfully did. Friends thought I was on drugs because I dropped the weight so quick, some family/close friends were afraid I stopped eating. I just told them I simply wanted to lose weight. I was down to about 125-130 lb by the following summer, and have been at this weight since (I'm 21 now). These past few months I've started working out much more, mainly to improve my upper body and mid section. Been slowly making it a routine thing, and it seems to be working. just joined this forum yesterday to gain nutritional advice and figure out which excercises will get me where I want to be.

Again, amazing transformation and keep up the great work! :cool3:
 
heya guys!

it's been about 2 months and I still feel kinda torn up, whether to bulk or not.
actually, im keeping my diet (1200-1500, high protein low carb) so i'd say its a cut atm cause i'm afraid
to start eating like a beast. i can see a bit of improvement overall but not really satisfied. my goal is
to look as best as possible by august and i don't know what route to take.
been thinking of cutting till May, then whey + creatine when school ends cause i don't have time for gym now :azzangel:

this is my routine atm, don't know the proper english names for some exercises tho :confused4:
i use my body, chest expander thingy and up to 33lbs dumbbells.

day 1 - chest/back/shoulders

2x15 chest expander - chest
2x15 chest expander - back
2x15 chest expander - shoulders
2x15 wide pushups
2x15 dumbbell butterfly
2x15 bench press

2x10 wide pushups
2x10 dumbbell butterfly
2x10 bench press

2x10 lateral raise
2x10 front dumbbell raise

day 2 - biceps/triceps

2x15 chest expander curls - biceps
2x15 chest expander curls - tricpes
2x20 narrow pushups
1x15 dumbbell triceps extension
1x10 dumbbell triceps extension
2x15 dumbbell curls (22lbs)
2x12 dumbbell curls (28lbs)
2x8 concentration curls (33lbs)

day 3 - abs

2x50 bench leg raise
2x25 crunches
2x20 renegade dumbbell rows

day 4 is a rest day (only cardio) then repeat. i also do about 15-20 mins cardio on orbitrek 4-6 times/week,
i'd say its a sort of HIIT.

it's the abs area that's giving me headaches and i just feel like im stuck
with it forever and even if i lose it im afraid of loose skin. it's the reason
why i still don't bulk even the rest of the body looks pretty lean...
got some fresh pics (one is with tensed belly)

would like to see more opinions, how could i get best results in about 4 months -
lose the belly and get bigger upper body. i don't aim for awesome abs tbh,
just trying to get a nice definition and get bigger.

cheers :)
 

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