30 Day Juice Fast

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Dan_S74

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Hi everyone, i dont post much but always check things out on the forum.
I have lost 70 pounds over the last 2 years, got my resting heart rate down to 65, and am actually in ok shape now.

However, i have been stuck around 200 for about a year. I drop to 195 here and there, and back to 205, but my body seems to like 200. No matter how much i work out.

I did a 10 day master cleanse last year and i really liked the results, so now i'm trying something different. I got a juicer for christmas and am going to do a 30 day juice fast. Goal is to lose 30 pounds and all the other good stuff that comes from a juice fast.

I figure an online journal will help me from cheating (Was supposed to start yesterday, but ate some pizza...my only weakness) so today is day 1.

So here goes.

DAY 1

Starting Weight : 200 Pounds.

Will take pictures and post before and after when im done.

Damnit. How the hell do you get one of those picture sliders to work ??
 
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What will happen with a juice fast is that at least 30% to 50% of the weight you lose will be lean muscle that you've destroyed by not getting proper nutrition. Then when you start to eat real food and gain weight back, all of it will be fat. Then you'll be worse off than you were before.
 
The reason you might be hovering at 200 despite working out a lot, is because you need to reduce calories more. It's a law of physics that if we consume less calories/energy than we exert in exercise, we will lose weight. I think it would be better if you stayed stringently to a certain caloric count every day so when you reach 170, you can keep eating that way to maintain. But it's always nice to kick start a reduction of caloric intake with a fast. But 30 days? That doesn't sound realistic.

For the ticker, you have to copy and paste the code into your Edit Signature space on your User CP page. Hope to see your success in the near future :)
 
KaraCooks said:
What will happen with a juice fast is that at least 30% to 50% of the weight you lose will be lean muscle that you've destroyed by not getting proper nutrition. Then when you start to eat real food and gain weight back, all of it will be fat. Then you'll be worse off than you were before.
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Yes i am aware i will lose a bit of muscle, i think it's more like 10% though. The body will use stored fat cells first, as thats what there purpose is.

And yes i am aware i will gain some of the weight back, but not all of it. And it wont be fat. I have no idea where your getting this stuff from.

I lost 15 pounds in 10 days on my fast last year, gained 3 back. Lost about 10 lbs on my deadlift, and 5 on my bench press, no biggie, and definately no 30-50%. THe fat loss was noticeable, and to this day havn't gained it back.

And finally, a juice fast, made from organic, fresh fruit & vegatables, is quite nutritious. I will also be supplementing with spirulina and eating some spinach. Muscle loss will be minimal. Juice fasts improve health and detoxify the body, the weight loss is just an added bonus.

Anyways, day 1 went good.

Got in a 30 Min jog, and gonna go do 100 push ups while i watch UFC.
 
congrats on day one !!

Im curious ... on this juice diet .. do u ONLY drink juice ... what does this juice fast consist of ?
 
People are always so quick to point out the 'negatives' of what people want to do...as a grown man I am sure you know of the pros/cons to what you are doing . I wish you all the best and will be following your progress :)
 
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2Skinny said:
The reason you might be hovering at 200 despite working out a lot, is because you need to reduce calories more. It's a law of physics that if we consume less calories/energy than we exert in exercise, we will lose weight. :)
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not true. i lose more weight eating 1,000 calories a day than i did eating 800 a day. after a couple weeks at 800 cal i stopped losing weight but once i increased my calorie intake to 1,000 i started losing weight again. it was cause at 800 my body was in starvation mode and started storing energy. im not saying that 1,000 is a good calorie number. its a bit low i know. im saying you have too take in the X factor. it could be many things. it could be that you are in fact replacing you fat with muscle. muscle weighs more then fat. i had a friend that was shorter then me, and skinnier then me (2 pants sizes smaller) and yet was 20 pounds heavier then me. calories from some food sources will accumulate more fat that others. 100 calories of juice will accumulate more fat then 100 cal of fruit. 100 cal of white bread will accumulate more fat then 100 cal of whole grain bread. this is because of the fiber in whole grain bread and the fact that it takes longer to absorb there for not spiking your insulin.
 
Thanks for the positive input everyone !!

muzic_lover : YEs, if you do it 100% you use only juice. I have had a little spinach salad each day so far, i will prolly do this for a few days then the rest 100% juice. I am using fresh fruits and veggies in a cheapo Jack Lalane juicer. Organic what i can afford, the rest soaked in Sea Salt/Apple Cider Vin. to remove pesticides. I am also drinking 4-5 green/red/chai tea a day. Here is some better info on what i'm doing.


End of day 2.

Weight : 196 - Down 4 Pounds. - Girlfriend down 6.
Exercise : 30 Mins Pilates, 100 Push Ups
Lots of enerygy all day. Feel like doing another 30 mins on the heavy bag.
Forgot to take before pics, will do that tonight.
 
wow..that's..that's so not scientific or medically sound or real.



ohh look! Doctors!
 
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no offense but that sounds like something a juicing sales company would tell you is healthy. have you asked your doctor or nutritional about this?
 
Yes i am aware i will lose a bit of muscle, i think it's more like 10% though. The body will use stored fat cells first, as thats what there purpose is.
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No. That's not true. Your body will lose fat and muscle - and some studies show nearly equal amounts when you use starvation diets.

And yes i am aware i will gain some of the weight back, but not all of it. And it wont be fat. I have no idea where your getting this stuff from.
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Scientific research and study. When you deplete muscle, what you gain back is fat.

Muscle loss will be minimal.
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Really? Exactly what is it that you're doing that is maintaining muscle? Because juice and spirulina isn't it.
 
Day 3 (Didnt weight myself-was real busy)

Didnt do anything yesterday. Was a little sore from all the push ups. I do walk my kids to school so even on rest days i get 4Km of walking in mon to fri.

Start of Day 4

Starting Weight : 194 - Down 6 Pounds Total (Girlfriend has been fluctuating, so im keeping her off the scale for a week, she gets discouraged easily)

Things have been going good. Had some cravings yesterday, i did cheat and had some soup. Gonna try harder from here on in. Energy has been good, and for the most part havn`t been hungray.

I bought some white tea, licorace root, and some other spiced tea to add to my collection (Got like 12 boxes of different organic teas now). Tried the licorace last night, a little strong but ok. Im not adding anything to the tea, no sugar no milk.

Will be doing heavy bag - push ups - and mabye pilates today (Girlfriend likes those damn pilates)

Anyways, will post tonight or tomorow morning.

Have a good day everyone!!!
 
I do wish you luck in losing weight but..you have to understand our scorn and mockery here. You are doing something which all studies say is a fraud. It doesn't work and you aren't going to be able to keep the weight off. You aren't learning what is needed to keep it off. You aren't learning calories. you aren't learning portion control. You aren't learning moderation. It's a 'magic bullet' mindset and the reason most of us make the comments we have is so new people looking for REAL ways of REAL weight loss won't take what you are doing seriously.
 
cerad said:
You mean the part about drinking tea during an all juice diet?
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Hmm... Juice comes from plants...

Tea comes from... Wait for it... Thats right, A Plant!

Wow, who knew.

Now thats amusing.


And i wont reply to negative posts here anymore, but come on, you set yourself up for that one.
 
So the soup is..?

I guess you are on more of a liquid diet..except the spinich so you are actually just on a highly restrictive calorie diet, without doctor supervision.
 
Dr. Z’s Medical Report
Ed Zimney, MD
Health and Medical News You Can UseDecember 14, 2006
Master Cleanse Diet = Master Scam
I’ve railed many times against fad diets in this column. And today, an article in the New York Times prompts me to debunk the so-called Master Cleanse diet.

Many of you have heard of the “amazing” results and other glowing testimonials about this patently absurd diet in which you essentially fast for 10 days, living on a drink made from water, lemon juice, maple syrup and cayenne pepper. This is basically a starvation diet, nearly guaranteed to take off a few pounds in the short run, but just as guaranteed to put them back after it’s done. No one can survive very long on such a starvation diet, and many people find it extremely difficult even to complete it.

So let’s take a look at the components of this diet. Nearly all of it consists of water, which is essential for life, but is of no nutritional value. Next comes the maple syrup. This is the sole source of calories in the diet and prevents you from starving at a faster rate than if it were not included. The calories come from the sugar in the maple syrup. Why maple syrup? No reason except to make it sound esoteric and magical. As far as your body is concerned, sugar is sugar. Next, we add some lemon juice. Essentially, this drink is a form of lemonade using maple syrup instead of plain sugar. What does a lemon contain that makes it so important? Nothing! Lemon juice is a weak acid as is vinegar. The amount of acid already in your stomach is orders of magnitude higher than the little bit of added acid from the lemon juice, so it is essentially like spitting in the ocean. Does lemon have any other magical properties that might help “detoxify” the body or otherwise aid in weight loss? Absolutely not! Last is the cayenne pepper. The only possible effect of this substance is to irritate the lining of the GI tract and to potentially cause diarrhea.

In fact, this entire diet is basically similar to some laxatives and taking a laxative tea is also recommended along with the lemonade. Laxative abuse is, unfortunately, an all too common form of misguided dieting. Laxatives decrease the time waste products remain in the colon. Their effect is to increase the expulsion of water only, the nutrients have already been absorbed higher up in the GI tract, and the colon is primarily a water retainer. The problem for babies and the elderly who have diarrhea is that they cannot replace the water they are losing fast enough. The only “fortunate” thing about this diet is the intake of excess water, which may help prevent you from becoming dehydrated. It may also help hydrate the skin, which is why many people report better looking skin while on the program.

Some will doubtless argue that this isn’t really a diet but is intended to be a “detoxification” program. We all know, however, that it is being widely used as a diet. But let’s take a look at detoxification. While it is true that the body absorbs a variety of toxic materials from the environment, the important thing to understand is that either the body already has a mechanism to remove the toxins or it does not. The body uses the liver, kidneys, GI tract and the lungs to rid itself of many toxic materials. This is normal. Some toxins, however, cannot be eliminated normally because they build up in “hidden” locations such as fat tissue or within the airways (think of miner’s lung disease). Some of these toxins can be removed using highly sophisticated medical treatments, but some can’t and some people who work with certain toxic chemicals can die from this exposure. Most importantly, however, is that drinking this peppered lemonade could not in any possible way eliminate any of these toxins.

It is really unfortunate how much hype and misinformation there is about this idea of “toxins.” The vast majority of what you hear about toxins is simply untrue. This is because these nebulous factors are never identified as being anything specific. It’s purely scare tactics designed to convince you that your body is somehow dirty and must be cleansed. This is pure nonsense. There are real toxins, as alluded to above, but these can be named and identified. Eat a high fish diet and you’re likely to absorb more mercury than you should. That’s a real toxin. And if you think the Master Cleanse or any other cleansing procedure is going to remove mercury from your body, you are 100 percent wrong.

In summary, the Master Cleanse program is basically a way to starve yourself, with just enough sugar to keep you going for a few days. The lemon juice and cayenne pepper add nothing as we’ve seen above. If you don’t eat for a few weeks, you’ll lose some weight. If you don’t eat for a few months, you’ll die. And in either case, if you start eating again (before you die of course), the weight will come back. It’s only a matter of time.

The only diet that can work over a long time is to eat a little bit less and to exercise a little bit more. A few hundred less calories in and a few hundred extra calories burned off, and you’ve changed your basic metabolic equation. That could be as easy as one less soda and walking a few extra blocks (the effect may not be extreme, but neither were the changes). Neither part of the program is so severe that it can’t be maintained over the long haul. Starving, however, surely cannot.
 
Jericho said:
I do wish you luck in losing weight but..you have to understand our scorn and mockery here. You are doing something which all studies say is a fraud. It doesn't work and you aren't going to be able to keep the weight off. You aren't learning what is needed to keep it off. You aren't learning calories. you aren't learning portion control. You aren't learning moderation. It's a 'magic bullet' mindset and the reason most of us make the comments we have is so new people looking for REAL ways of REAL weight loss won't take what you are doing seriously.
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But your all not getting it. Im not doing this for weight loss. I already lost 70 pounds, i count calories, i work out, i eat healthy now, and yes I agree, there is no such thing called DIETS, you need a lifestyle change, and i`ve changed. I`ve switched to organic, cut out red meat. I EVEN EAT BRUSSEL SPROUTS! (ANd im the guy who never touched a vegetable for the first 30 years of my life unless it was fried in fat). Yes i havnt been as strict lately, and im sure thats why im struggling with the last 30, but thats still not why im doing this.

I`m doing this cleanse (And thats what it is, a CLEANSE, not a Diet) because I 100% believe cleansing is good for us. You would have to be brain dead to think the polluted air we breathe, modified food, and even the water we drink doesnt have crap in it. Crap that shouldnt be in our bodies.

I did the 10 master cleanse last year and felt GREAT! I`ve always had a sensitive stomach, and cramps sometimes. The cleanse really did get rid of them. My skin really looks better and younger. And losing 15 pounds didnt hurt either. And no, all my muscle didnt fall off, i worked damn hard to get my deadlift to 315 pounds, and would not be trying this if i thought my hard earned muscle would go.

And as for being a fraud, there are tons of studies that say otherwise. Health care is a business, it is heavily impacted by lots of companies. You can`t believe everything they say. Just like diet pills and crap, they are in it to make money, and money corrupts all. There is no money to be made from a fast, no one can put a patent on juice or water, thats why you will never see it indorsed by doctors. I guess you guys dont think omega-3`s are good, or a multivitamin either right, because doctors publish lots of fancy studies that say there useless also. But there the first people to give you oxycodine, diet pills and something to help you sleep.. Hmmm...

So no, this isnt a Fad Diet for me, i dont care if i lose any weight (although you always lose some since toxins and crap in your body must weigh something) but I thought an online journal would help me get through this, since it is tough, VERY TOUGH. Just like a Diet, if i track my progress, i wont cheat. I picked this site because i thought some poeple on here would be curious and might find my journal useful. I guess i was wrong.
 
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