17 Years old, Trying to Gain Some Muscle

Hey everyone, I'm currently a senior in high school. I'm 17 years old, 5'10", and weigh around 135 pounds. I've been lifting weights for about two years, mostly arms, chest, and abs, with pretty good results.

However, my lack exercise on my back, especially my lower back, makes my profile figure a bit odd. Specifically, from top to bottom, my back goes down and then bends in towards my stomach.

To even out my torso, I want to gain some muscle mass in my lower back and upper back. I also want to gain some pounds, ideally at least 150 by the end of senior year. Can anyone give me advice on how to do this?

Over the summer, I stopped eating candy and sodas, tried to eat more and drank water like crazy. I don't want to use any body enhancement stuff but I'm considering protein bars (suggestions?). Thanks a lot for your help.

Btw, I read this article about weight gain and took so hints from it. Just can't keep the pounds on.
 
How about working out your legs??? If you're yet to do squats and deadlifts seriously, you've never really lifted.
 
holabuster,

Two things I would recoomend would be some serious eating and almost exclusively focusing on your legs and back while in the weight room for the next 2-3 months.

For the eating part, you should be eating atleast 4-5 times per day and I would try to include protein such as peanut butter, yogurt, tuna fish and milk and carbs like rice, potatoes, pasta, oatmeal, etc.

One other "trick" I found invaluable for gaining weight was to get up in the middle of the night and have either a few tablespoons of peanut butter, some yogurt, or a protein milkshake.This breaks up the 9-10 hours between meals you experience when sleeping.This may be difficult at first, but you can easily acclimate.I drink so much water that I always got up in the middle of the night to use the restroom so I would just detour to the kitchen first, have my snack, use the bathroom and then go back to bed.This always worked great for me when I wanted or needed to add weight-notice I said weight, not muscle, as you can easily add fat while doing this as well.

For the weight room, definitely focus on leg and back movements.The muscles of the legs and the back are the largest in your body and will have the most dramatic effect when they hypertrophy.

Squats and/or deadlifts should be a key exercise for the legs and lower back.I would go heavy on one but not both once per week for the sake of not overly taxing the muscles of the low back.For the frequency, you could go heavy on squats/light on deadlifts one week and then light on squats/heavy on deadlifts the next:

Week one-
Monday
-heavy squats

Thursday
-light deadlifts

Week two-
Monday
-light squats

Thursday
-heavy deadlifts

I think the old 5 sets of 5 reps system works best for strength/mass building on big exercises like squats and deadlifts.You can do it a number of ways but I would use this one:

Use the first two sets of 5's as progressive warm-ups and the last three sets of 5's as your work sets using the same amount of weight.For example:
set 1-135ibs x 5
set 2-185ibs x 5
sets 3,4 and 5-225ibs x 5 reps

Try to add 5 pounds per week on your heavy days.The name of the game is progressive resistance, so train accordingly.

As you gain greater and greater strength and are able to generate more and more intensity, you slowly take away work sets and add more progressive warm-ups.For example:
set 1-135ibs
set 2-185ibs
set 3-225ibs
set 4-275ibs
set 5-315ibs

For your light days, do one warm-up set and four working sets with a bit less than your previous heavy day's working weight.Taking the first example:
set 1-135 x 5
sets 2-5-185 x 5
On the light days, the focus should be on improving your technique and allowing for recovery, not building strength or muscle.If the lighter weight feels like not enough of a challenge, then you can always reduce your rest intervals between sets by half or more.Instead of taking 3 minutes between sets, take just one.

On your heavy days, you can also follow the 5's with one or two sets of higher reps, like 8's or 10's with a lighter weight to add to your workload.This is optional.

For your back, I think you would do well to just focus on chin-ups or pull-ups, working up to the point at which you are tying weight plates around your waist for added resistance.My back didn't start taking off until I really focused on pull-ups.And if you think about it, the weight you use in pull-ups is typically more than you use in most other exercises like dumbell rows, lat pulldowns, pullovers, etc.Just make sure you do full-range reps where you start from a dead hang and pull until the bar touches your upper chest or lower.I would do pull-ups at least 2 days per week.

Hope some of this was helpful.Sorry about the book.




-Matt
 
Wow, awesome information guys! Thanks, especially to you matt. This is great eye opener for what I should be aiming for.

First of all, I have done squats before, just have not gotten used to having the bar on my traps/shoulders. But I know it is one of the best exercises for increasing weight/strength so I'll definately add it to my repetoire. However, I only have access to a squat bar that is on a rack, kinda like a machine where it slides up and down so it's not a free weight. Is that an issue?

Second, i've never done deadlifting, I don't even know what it is. Could anyone explain how the exercise is done and what it works?

Third, like you mentioned, I've been working on pull-ups. I'm right now using some assist (a lot, like 60-70 lbs!) to be able to do 10 reps, so I'm kinda struggling. But the machine I use helped me be able to do dips so I think I'll be able to do 10 reps of chin ups soon, if I keep it up.

Fourth, how do all of you get in so many meals in your day? I'll list what I usually eat for meals.

Breakfast: Yogurt, milk, cereal bars.
Lunch: Cafeteria food, usually not very much. I'm thinking of preparing my own meal for lunch. Suggestions?
After School: Microwave Home run inn pizza. Lots of calories, 17 g protein, and yes, lots of fat. Should I be doing this?
Dinner: Almost always rice, almost always chicken. I sometime have peas/green beans, shrimp, noodles (i'm asian lol) OR pasta.

What do you think of my diet? I'm currently looking for a good energy/nutrition/protein bar. I've only had ones that are really dense and take forever for me to finish. Trying for find one that is quick and soft, good tasting, and has at least 12 g of protein.

Thanks so much for your help. Right now, I dunno if I'll be able to manage such a rigorous program. I think I'll slowly increase what I do, but really take off 2nd semester when I have personal fitness for gym (plus College Apps will be through, so i'll have more time). Thanks again for reading this. Please let me know any suggestions.
 
However, I only have access to a squat bar that is on a rack, kinda like a machine where it slides up and down so it's not a free weight. Is that an issue?

That is called a Smith machine, and like all machines, it locks you into a predetermined path.As such, the only thing I would use it for is to hang laundry off of, but if that is all you have access to, then it would do for now.I would try to find another gym with a squat rack if you can in the near future.

Second, i've never done deadlifting, I don't even know what it is. Could anyone explain how the exercise is done and what it works?

A conventional deadlift begins with the loaded barbell on the floor in front of you.Using a shoulder width stance you squat down, grab the bar and stand back up making sure to keep your arms straight as they do not pull the weight.Do not allow the elbows to bend.The legs, hips and low back do the brunt of the work.

Third, like you mentioned, I've been working on pull-ups. I'm right now using some assist (a lot, like 60-70 lbs!) to be able to do 10 reps, so I'm kinda struggling. But the machine I use helped me be able to do dips so I think I'll be able to do 10 reps of chin ups soon, if I keep it up.

The next time you are in the gym, skip the machine and head to the pull-up bar.Instead of worrying about a max number of reps, focus on single reps.Conventrate on perfect form and a full range of motion.Rest a minute or two in between sets if you have to and if you can't do full reps, do kipping reps where you quickly bring your knees up while pulling.This assists in helping you through the sticking point.

Fourth, how do all of you get in so many meals in your day? I'll list what I usually eat for meals.

I just eat every couple of hours.I use homemeade protein/energy bars, yogurt, protein shakes, etc, which are all quick meals.

What do you think of my diet?

I'm one of the least knowledgeable people to talk to about diet and nutrition, so I'm zero help here.

Right now, I dunno if I'll be able to manage such a rigorous program.

Not a problem.Just keep things simple:

Frequently eat small but nutritious meals
Hit the big exercises like squats, deads, weighted dips and weighted pull-ups
Allow enough time for recovery
Stay away from isolation exercises, controlled substances and women of loose virtue
 
Ballast, thanks a lot again. Lots of useful information. See the problem with doing pull-ups on a regular bar is that I can only do 4-5 at a time, so it's a struggle. Also, it seems like my muscles tire out pretty quickly. LIke if I do 5 on the first set, I might only be able to do 3 on the 2nd.

Same thing with benching. Like say I do 10 reps of 115. Then next set of 115, I may only be able to do 7 or so. Is this normal? What can i do to have better muscle stamina?

EDIT: Wow, the place I work out (my school's fitness center) is a bit limited. I don't have bars and weights to do deadlifts on. The ones at my school are pre-weighted at weights from 30-115 or something like that, but i think they are more for curls. I think i still might be able to deadlift on them tho.

Also, I read that bent over rows are good for bulking up back muscles. Should I be doing these?
 
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See the problem with doing pull-ups on a regular bar is that I can only do 4-5 at a time, so it's a struggle. Also, it seems like my muscles tire out pretty quickly. LIke if I do 5 on the first set, I might only be able to do 3 on the 2nd.

Same thing with benching. Like say I do 10 reps of 115. Then next set of 115, I may only be able to do 7 or so. Is this normal? What can i do to have better muscle stamina?


One thing to keep in mind is that pull-ups are not a sissy exercise.They are tough when performed with a complete range of motion.You will tire quickly from doing these.One thing for you to try is Pavel Tsatsouline's Ladder System.You said that you can do 4-5 pull-ups initially, so the thing to do is to stay away from muscular failure while building up your training volume.Ladders work by starting with 1 rep, rest for a short period of time, do 2 reps, rest again then do 3 reps.Keep going in this fashion until you feel you cannot complete the next "rung" on the ladder.Take an extended rest and then do another ladder.For example, someone who can do a total of 5 consecutive reps before reaching muscular failure may be able to do the following using the ladder system:

1 rep
30 seconds rest
2 reps
30 seconds rest
3 reps (at this point, you may not be able to complete four reps, so you take a two minute rest and the start back at one rep and work back up)

For your benches, use the same principle; stay away from failure.When using 115 for benches, instead of doing max reps, do sets of 5 reps with a 2-minute rest interval between sets.Do as many sets of 5's as you can without reaching muscular failure.This way, you build up your volume with a series of moderate intensity efforts and subsequently, you build muscular endurance.After a few weeks, put 125ibs on the bar and do your sets of 5's.You should gradually be able to increase the poundage and volume of your workouts.

I don't have bars and weights to do deadlifts on. The ones at my school are pre-weighted at weights from 30-115 or something like that, but i think they are more for curls. I think i still might be able to deadlift on them tho.

That is fine.Pick a moderate weight and just work on your form.The weight will come later, but for now, especially with a movement like deadlifts, concentrate on your form.If the weight is too light, just do some extra sets with minimal rest intervals.You can always tweak things to make it more intense if need be.

Also, I read that bent over rows are good for bulking up back muscles. Should I be doing these?

When done properly, I think bent rows can be a very beneficial back exercise.Same as deadlifts, concentrate on form first, poundage second.However, give the pull-ups your primary attention for now.The bent rows can be a secondary exercise.
 
The deadlifts are a great idea. Hack squats and Bulgarian squats would be good to add since you don't have a power rack. The hack squats are just like the deadlit except the bar is behind you. Bulgarian squats are done (generally) with dumbbells. You'll put your back foot up on something that is 1-12 inches high and squat down while holding a db in each hand.

As for your diet-
It'd be good if you could add oatmeal in the morning, almonds, apples, and boiled eggs during the afternoon. A good whey protein powder would do ya some good for a snack. I don't eat a lot of protein bars but the Lean Body ones are really good.
 
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