Is it too early to be frustrated with results?

Ive been taking karate for about 4 months now. 2 hours 2 days per week. Ive also been doing various treadmill walk/run programs every morning for 1 week for an average of 25 minutes each run. I do try to push myself. Aside from that my work is fairly sedate.

Im a 40 yo male, 5'9", 205 lbs

I did see some strength gains from karate and Ive seen small stamina gains from the treadmill but as yet no real improvement in my weight.

I plan to continue the treadmill each day, gradually extending the time. The goal is to get to 190 lbs by the end of August.

So my questions are:

Is it too early to be looking for weight results from the treadmill?

Is this goal do-able with this approach?
 
Last edited:
Ive been taking karate for about 4 months now. 2 hours 2 days per week. Ive also been doing various treadmill walk/run programs every morning for 1 week for an average of 25 minutes each run. I do try to push myself. Aside from that my work is fairly sedate.

Im a 40 yo male, 5'9", 205 lbs

I did see some strength gains from karate and Ive seen small stamina gains from the treadmill but as yet no real improvement in my weight.

I plan to continue the treadmill each day, gradually extending the time. The goal is to get to 190 lbs by the end of August.

So my questions are:

Is it too early to be looking for weight results from the treadmill?

Is this goal do-able with this approach?

Yeah, you should have been frustrated with results after the first week.

So you haven't lost a single pound then? Weight loss is all about the diet ya know.... even if you do all the exercise in the world you can just come back and eat too much - you will just cancel it out.
 
To lose weight you really need to focus on nutrition extensively. Many people in sedentary jobs tend to not eat even 3 meals a day and often slow thier metabolisms to a crawl. I would encourage you to consume 6 small meals a day, cutting sugars, and increasing protien. Fitday.com can help you figure out a good calorie amount based on activity and then just cut 500 calories from that. There is also alot of information on this site about nutrition to help you. I would also reccomend weight training to speed up the process. I find that weights are the most effective way for me to lose weight, muscles burn alot of calories. At 40 you may also want to consider getting a physical with base-line bloodwrok to check out your cholesterol and blood glucose if you have not already done so. Don't give up, you will see progress!
 
Diet is huge, not enough emphasis can be put on this. Read some of the diet and nutrtion stickies.

Also you should consider incorporating a weight routine 3 times a week min.
weights will burn more cals than the treadmill. Not saying you should eliminate the cardio. You will not get big unless you eat to get big.
Do lots of heavy compound lifts and you will start to see results much faster.

don't let yourself get frustrated keep it up! I promise you within 2 weeks of incorporating weights into your program you will see and feel results.
 
I tend to disagree with the last 3 posters about nutrition. I don't know what your diet it, but make sure you are eating lots of meats, whole grains, and fruits and veggies. As long as you aren't eating sugary and processed foods you'll be ok. The main thing is to PUSH yourself. If you are comfortable in your work outs, you aren't going to lose weight. Walking is not a good way to drop fat. For your age it would be best to get on a stationary bike and do HIIT. Although karate is good for focus and discipline, it isn't a very intense workout unless you are doing a lot of sparring. Try doing some exercises with weights if you want to speed up progress.

And you shouldn't be worried after a week. Fat loss is a slow process. When you find weekly progress to be minimal or non-existent, try focusing on longer term goals instead.
 
I tend to disagree with the last 3 posters about nutrition. I don't know what your diet it, but make sure you are eating lots of meats, whole grains, and fruits and veggies. As long as you aren't eating sugary and processed foods you'll be ok.

I agree with what you said but ultimately if calories in > calories out then he won't lose weight
 
I tend to disagree with the last 3 posters about nutrition. I don't know what your diet it, but make sure you are eating lots of meats, whole grains, and fruits and veggies. As long as you aren't eating sugary and processed foods you'll be ok. The main thing is to PUSH yourself. If you are comfortable in your work outs, you aren't going to lose weight. Walking is not a good way to drop fat. For your age it would be best to get on a stationary bike and do HIIT. Although karate is good for focus and discipline, it isn't a very intense workout unless you are doing a lot of sparring. Try doing some exercises with weights if you want to speed up progress.

And you shouldn't be worried after a week. Fat loss is a slow process. When you find weekly progress to be minimal or non-existent, try focusing on longer term goals instead.

You're kidding, right? Diet is key to losing or gaining weight. Just not eating sugary and processed foods does not mean they will be okay. It doesn't matter if a person eats 10,000 kcals of sugar or 10,000 kcals of tuna. The end results is the same=too many kcals that body can't use and weight gain is going to happen.
 
Thanks for your replies

Hey everyone,

Thanks for all your replies. For starters, my diet is pretty good. I eat healthy foods, I don't drink soda at all. I don't know how many calories I take in but I know it isn't that much. I was talking with a fitness trainer in the area who said possibly I am eating enough of the right stuff but should be eating it spaced out over 5-6 meals instead of just 3. He also said I should scrap the whole "watching my weight" thing and focus on body fat content instead with longer term goals.

I'm guessing there are many ways to skin this cat....

JC
 
Your body composition will change itself if you stop eating processed junk food and replace it with healthy options, and you will lose some fat ( burn the fat, feed the muscle ). But to make any serious headway with fat loss you need to eat less than you burn.
 
I agree with what you said but ultimately if calories in > calories out then he won't lose weight

I read a good article on this, wish I had kept the link. It was an extensive study on energy balance, taking conventional views into question. A series of trials showed increasing caloric intake, combined with increasing energy expenditure produced the best results in growth and fat loss compared to simply increasing expenditure. Wish I had the source, sorry.
But nonetheless, if eating reasonably healthy and doing some hard exercise the [Cals in - Cals out] will probably be negative anyway. Just watch the intake OP


You're kidding, right? Diet is key to losing or gaining weight. Just not eating sugary and processed foods does not mean they will be okay. It doesn't matter if a person eats 10,000 kcals of sugar or 10,000 kcals of tuna. The end results is the same=too many kcals that body can't use and weight gain is going to happen.

You aren't taking certain factors into account. Simple sugars cause an insulin spike(bad bad), which causes your body to stop producing glucagon (the hormone that causes glycogen and fat release). Also simple sugars are very easy to digest requiring almost no energy.

Eating the same amount of calories in protein and fibrous veggies will firstly burn more calories simply digesting the food, and second it will not cause that insulin spike as it raises blood glucose very slowly.


IMO, where you get your calories from matter more than how much you take in. That is of course, within a reasonable window, as eating 1500cals above your BMR of anything will just cause gains. Most people who eat reasonably healthy as OP does don't eat in major excess. I'd rather just watch what I put in my mouth than count every calorie I eat. Counting cals wears on you and is annoying, making you less likely to stick to an eating plan. But hey, just my opinion.
 
To lose wieght, you have to burn more than what you are stockpiling. If you are doing good exercise, and are eating properly you should see results. as you buiild muscle and as you gain endurance you will see more results. I won't be surprised if you find a certain week that you've exceeded your expectations. IF you are doing things properly.
 
Karate isn't really cardio. It's a strange type of strength training that focuses a lot on muscle stamina.

No doubt will you gain muscle doing karate. You might even grow a bit more, it's a great type of exercise to get into. However your muscles will not be bulky and huge, they'll be slender, carved, and hard as hell.

It's true, weight only means something when you're measuring extreme ends of the spectrum. Muscle is much smaller and compact than fat. It's also heavier than fat. You can be perfectly thin, but if you've got a high amount of muscle that isn't built outwards to bulge, you may very well weigh a lot more than you look.

As far as your diet is concerned, obviously you need to eat properly to lose weight. Also remember though, your organs burn calories as they function, even your stomach. Each time you eat something and kick in the digestion process, you're forcing your digestion to exercise a little harder to get that food starting to break down. Free burned calories, just by getting your digestion to start up more times a day.

Now this is also purely personal opinion, but many people are advising you to eat more meat. Personally I'd advise losing some meat, and gaining a LOT more plantation and nuts to make up for it.

Meat is heavy, it takes a lot of time to digest for quite a few calories and a huge amount of nutrience. Great, but, you've spent all that time digesting a single piece of food full of nutrience which have already been processed by an animal out of the plants. Yup, there's a difference between some plant and animal derived nutrition. When you eat plants, your body has to take what's in the plants and alter it to make it useable in an animal body. Eating it from animals, that work's already done for you pretty much. There are differences between eating plants and animals, and I really think there's a lack of consideration given towards the differences between plant and animal nutrition.

It does seem that vegetarians have generally better body odour, immune system, sense of taste and smell, eyesight, oral health, in many cases organ function and digestion, and well, any released fluids tend to possess both a better odour and ummm... taste, according to that old woman who talks about sex on tv all the time. There are of course advantages to eating meat as well, so I don't advise against it. I mean, it's good for us, we have the teeth for it, so we might as well. I'm just saying, if you're eating the meat for the nutrition, there are other ways to get it that would come with plenty of advantages because I assume living in this age you already eat plenty of meat.
 
Last edited:
Wuts up, man? Well since everybody here is writing you essays, i'm going to keep it sweet and simple. To gain weight you must consume more calories than you are using up. for a 40 yr old male your REE (resting energy expendeture) would be around 1,600. Theres a way to figure it out if you care but I figured you didnt so I did the math for you. Anyways, your body is using 1,600 calories at REST just to function properly. So if your excercising at light to moderate intensity (karate) youare only burning 80-160 calories. So, think of your calories as a bank. you have 2,500 calories to eat. drink a glass of milk subtract 200 from 2,500 and you have 2,300 left to eat during the day. Make sure you get good calories from protien and carbs. Try and stay away from high fat foods one gram of fat yeild 9 calories. anyway so to gain weight you need to take in more calories than you are expending.To lose weight you need to take in less calories than you are expending. To gain muscle you need to get solid protiens. actualy .8g/kg of body weight of recommended. for for every 2.2 lbs of body weight you should have .8g of protien. but for muscles sake we'll ass in an exta .2g. So, for every 2.2lb (1kg) of body weight you must consume 1g of protien.


Hope this helped.
 
Back
Top