Vitamins 'may shorten your life'

From a BBC article..........


Research has suggested certain vitamin supplements do not extend life and could even lead to a premature death. A review of 67 studies found "no convincing evidence" that antioxidant supplements cut the risk of dying.

Scientists at Copenhagen University said vitamins A and E could interfere with the body's natural defences. "Even more, beta-carotene, vitamin A, and vitamin E seem to increase mortality," according to the review by the respected Cochrane Collaboration.

The research involved selecting various studies from 817 on beta-carotene, vitamin A, vitamin C, vitamin E, and selenium which the team felt were the most likely to fairly reflect the impact of the supplements on reducing mortality. It has been thought that these supplements may be able to prevent damage to the body's tissues called "oxidative stress" by eliminating the molecules called "free radicals" which are said to cause it. This damage has been implicated in several major diseases including cancer and heart disease.

'Just eat well'

The trials involved 233,000 people who were either sick or were healthy and taking supplements for disease prevention. After various factors were taken into account and a further 20 studies excluded, the researchers linked vitamin A supplements to a 16% increased risk of dying, beta-carotene to a 7% increased risk and vitamin E to a 4% increased risk. Vitamin C did not appear to have any effect one way or the other, and the team said more work was needed into this supplement - as well as into selenium.

In conclusion, "we found no evidence to support antioxidant supplements for primary or secondary prevention," they said. It was unclear exactly why the supplements could have this effect, but the team speculated that they could interfere with how the body works: beta-carotene, for instance, is thought to change the way a body uses fats.

The Department of Health said people should try to get the vitamins they need from their diet, and avoid taking large doses of supplements - a market which is worth over £330m in the UK. "There is a need to exercise caution in the use of high doses of purified supplements of vitamins, including antioxidant vitamins, and minerals," a spokesperson said. "Their impact on long-term health may not have been fully established and they cannot be assumed to be without risk."

A 'stitch-up'

But the Health Supplements Information Service, which is funded by the association which represents those who sell supplements, said many people were simply not able to get everything they needed from their diet.

"For the millions who are not able to do that, vitamins can be a useful supplement and they should not stop taking them," said spokeswoman Pamela Mason. Another nutritionist who has formulated supplements described the review as a "stitch-up", arguing it only looked at studies which examined the effect they had on reducing mortality, rather than other advantages.

"Antioxidants are not meant to be magic bullets and should not be expected to undo a lifetime of unhealthy habits," said Patrick Holford. "But when used properly, in combination with eating a healthy diet full of fruit and vegetables, getting plenty of exercise and not smoking, antioxidant supplements can play an important role in maintaining and promoting overall health."​



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In January 2008, my father in law passed away. He was one that was always active, and spent 22 1/2 years in the regular full-time army (which isnt a joke), and kept in relatively good shape, and had taken a multi-vitamin all his life (or most of it), and died at 75.

In contrast:

My mother in-law is 80, is 50 pounds or more over weight, eats like a pig (and grunts like one too) and is totally possessed by food. She can eat 5 bags of rice cakes in one day, and litterally eats nearly nothing but refined sugar based products all day--despite our objections. She takes one heart pill (other than this the doctor advises her to take a multi-vitamin, fish and flax oils, and is as VERY HEALTHY 80 year old). She has NEVER exercised other than the remote on the television and the seat of her pants---(post raising her children), and is one bizzare woman IMO. I am thinking of making a post to the COL about my experiences with her, its both amusing and disturbing at the same time.

In the end, it just boils down how are body processes the things we eat and do, and not everyone is the same--obviously.



Best regards,

Chillen
 
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So basically what we should take away from the article is that we should get most of our vitamins and minerals from our diet.... AND THEN it's fine to supplement with a multi?

Not just eat like crap and expect the multi to save us?
 
Found this on T-nation.

Benefits of Vitamin A

Vitamin A is an essential fat-soluble nutrient that plays a critical role in healthy vision, growth, bone development, reproduction, immune function, and healthy epithelial tissues (read as cancer prevention). There is epidemiological evidence to suggest that a higher dietary intake of vitamin A lowers breast cancer risk among pre-menopausal women with a positive family history of breast cancer. Another large study found that vitamin A intake reduces the risk of cataracts.

Animal Vitamin A (Retinol) versus Plant Vitamin A

(Carotenoids)

There are two main sources of vitamin A: animal sources which contain preformed vitamin A as retinol and plant sources containing carotenoids, like beta-carotene, that the body converts to retinol.

· Retinol - primary sources are certain animal products, fortified margarine, fortified low-fat dairy products, other fortified foods, and supplements. 66% of all vitamin A intake in the American diet comes from retinol or preformed vitamin A added to foods (mostly as retinyl palmitate). Vitamin A is also found in supplements (as retinyl palmitate and retinyl acetate). Tolerable upper limit: 10,000 IU daily (see more below).

· Carotenoids - primary sources are green and yellow vegetables, especially carrots. 33% of all vitamin A intake in the American diet comes from the carotenoids in foods. Mixed carotenoids (a blend of different carotenoids) can be taken as a supplement whereas multiple vitamins only contain one carotenoid: beta-carotene. Tolerable upper limit: none.

Risks of Not Getting Enough Vitamin A

Worldwide, up to half a million malnourished children go blind each year because of vitamin A deficiency. In the U.S., deficiency is more likely to be found in those eating a severely restricted and unhealthy diet or among alcoholics. Alcohol accelerates the breakdown of retinol through enzymatic activity and interferes with the conversion of carotenoids to retinol (Note: Heavy alcohol drinkers - 2+ drinks daily - are advised to take a multiple vitamin containing preformed vitamin A as retinyl acetate or retinyl palmitate).

Risks of Consuming Too Much Vitamin A

The primary risks of too much vitamin A (either acute or chronic excess) are birth defects, liver abnormalities, central nervous system disorders, and lower bone mineral density that might increase osteoporosis risk. Since the American diet contains many fortified foods, the relationship between vitamin A and decreased bone density has become a greater concern.

Both human and animal studies show that a higher vitamin A intake interferes with bone metabolism. Specifically, excess vitamin A suppresses osteoblast (bone-building) activity, stimulates osteoclast (bone breakdown) formation, and interferes with vitamin D's role in calcium absorption and regulation.

In one study, women consuming more than 6,660 IU daily of vitamin A as retinol in food or supplements (the daily recommendation for adult women is 2,310 IU) were found to have twice the hip fracture risk compared to those consuming 1,700 IU daily or less. Men with the highest blood levels of retinol are seven times more likely to fracture a hip than men with lower levels (study details). There is evidence that older individuals have higher blood levels of vitamin A because of a reduced ability to metabolize vitamin A as efficiently as one ages.
 
So basically what we should take away from the article is that we should get most of our vitamins and minerals from our diet.... AND THEN it's fine to supplement with a multi?

Not just eat like crap and expect the multi to save us?

Nah. Supplements or food, study is just saying over-doing it on the vitamins and getting more than you should could be harmful.
 
I've read studies that say it isn't true, but since I started taking 1000mg vitamin C my frequency of getting sick has gone down drastically...even with sinus/allergy problems
 
No one denies that Vitamin C rocks the kasbah...

Anyone remember when cholesterol was bad? then it was good? then they decided there was "good" and "bad" cholesterol?

You can run around in circles all day long on this stuff.

I eat eat protein, work out, take blue-green algae and call it a day.

Multi-vitamins are not useful anyway as you're body cannot digest the compact packets before they escape out the other end.

Maybe I'm wrong and I'm going to die at 40...maybe a bus will run me over next week..

be happy :)
 
I think some people take too much crap.

In short, no one knows the day of their death. It could be 10 seconds from now, or years from now. In whatever the case, it's best to take precautions whenever you put things in your body. Sometimes, too much of a good thing is bad. I'm not saying this article is true, or false, but what I am going to say is that sometimes it's best to listen to others and take it easy on stuff.

For example, once when I was little, I had a bike that came with an air pump. I thought it was the coolest thing in the world. Every time I turned a corner, I stopped my bike and pumped some air into the tire. A friend told me that pumping too much air will be bad. I didn't listen, and I kept doing it since it didn't appear to be doing any damage that I could see. About a week later, I found I could no longer hold air in the tire since I pumped too much air. The moral of the story is we all need air in our tire (as in our bodies), but pumping too much too soon, might not be a good thing as sooner or later, we're not going to be able to hold that air anymore.

Just be careful out there, folks.
 
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