Sport Mreik: Per your request, Nutritional Sticky

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Chillen said:
I dont want my COL to turn into a debate thread. So I am stopping the "potential" of a debate within this thread. I need to keep the original integrity and purpose in tact--this is the most important above all else no matter the feelings that may be to the contrary.

I know I responded to Wrangell's question, and it warranted a response. However, I do not want this to go further in the COL. Another thread is welcome, but not in this thread.

Create another thread, if you desire.
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My apologies Chillen...seems you posted this when I was posing my reply to you. Sorry.

The only reason I am asking questions is because you said.....


" What I would like is constructive input on refining the contents and/or improving the overall layout, or other information we can add "

" input would be most welcomed "
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...I made the mistake of thinking you wanted " input " in THIS thread. Again, my apologies.

Just so I'm clear, in which thread would you prefer people provide the input ( regarding your sticky ) that you are seeking ?
 
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Chillen said:
Wrangell:

I would be more than happy to in a different thread.

Admittingly, I am partially at fault here, as I should of asked you to move your first post to a different thread or pointed this out after your first post in the beginning (in fairness).

Therefore, I request that you copy your posts in my thread and past them to a new thread. I then asked that you delete them here in the COL.
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O.K then ...fair enough......which thread ?

In which thread do you want members to provide the input for " refining the contents and/or improving the overall layout " as you requested ?

Which other thread did you have in mind when you asked for input ?

Let me know ...and I'll post to that thread.:)
 
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sig said:
Maybe I'm confused too. I'm a new member here, though hardly new to training.

I thought the point of Cycle Forward, Back, etc. is that it manipulates how you count the 24 hour day clock to "trick" your body into eating more or less than it otherwise would feel like & perhaps at different times. Maybe I'm not understanding what it is, but it allows you to make food choices shifts based on something other than a 24 hour day.

Given that understanding, I would never voluntarily try this. I travel a lot, and it actually reminds me a lot of what happens to me when I fight jet lag. When I travel from west to east, I find that I can adjust more easily to the new time simply by eating at the times I'd want to eat at the new place, rather than sticking with my "old" 24 hour clock of that classic 7-11 mini-meals, pre & post-workout. Yes, I eat more than I otherwise would have, but it works. However, when I travel from east to west, I have serious problems sleeping through the night at first, because my 'hunger' kicks in by 3 or 4 AM the latest. No matter how late I manage to stay up to force myself to be tired, my body wants to wake up for food as though I was still in the old place.

So now I'm really curious. Did I totally miss the boat on what you mean by Cycle Forward/Back or is it just mimicking jet lag, without the time zone travel?
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Again, seems both you and I aren't exactly sure what Chillen means by this whole " CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack " protocol of his...and I suspect new members may also find themselves in the same boat...." confused ".

As Chillen asked, we shouldn't discuss this any further in this thread.

Once we confirm the thread in which Chillen would like his input directed to, perhaps we can have Chillen expand on it a bit more so we can better understand where he's coming from.
 
I think im leaning toward taking the 24 hour cycle out of the "basic" nutrition sticky.


It should just contain the overall "basic's" to get the new member started on the right track.

Therefore, I think the 24 hour cycle should be excluded (and I have since deleted it) and maybe added (after we discuss this possibility) to an "advanced and/or different techniques" nutritional sticky in which the 24 hour cycle (ketogenic, etc) could be added in.

I debated with myself in even adding the 24 hour cycle post in the first place.
Truthfully, this isnt for a brand new member not experienced.

Personally I feel the this Sticky thread should contain ONLY the contents related to the what the new member is seeking in nutrition, and there should be no other posts to it----when its finalized.

This way the important posts are all in one place and not all over the thread, and the thread is CLEAN.

This is a problem with alot stickies that mean well, and I dont want this to happen in the one WE are working on.

This is why I ask that when its finalized that all posts be deleted (you know: "the thank you's", "the well done's", and other 'debate-shaping' posts), and just leaving the "meat and potatoes" and purpose of the sticky thread.

Since the advanced sticky thread isnt made yet. I will make another thread for advanced nutrition techniques (for members with good knowledge and in a "position" to make good use of them), and we can therefore discuss its contents. And, again its contents be deleted leaving only the important information (I think we can live with the reduce post count, it isnt a big deal)

In addition, I think the thread ought to be LOCKED (like I said before) and content only added on permission from a mod. If a request is made to add contents, a thread can be made making the request that includes the contents the person wants to add in, and then a Mod can make the decision on whether to add it in (after revision, discussion). This will leave the original Sticky .....CLEAN.

I believe this imporant.
 
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Mreik, Please see the second post in this thread.

I have deleted the former contents, and I would like you to consider adding this fantastic post by Sig........beneath my first post. It would do a beginner some good (though it may have to be modified to include some things not it to be more fulfilling to a general audiance of new users).
 
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Mreik......what have we decided to do on this? Its been a long while with nothing done.....

What are the plans one way or the other :)
 
In progress, I think we're gonna redo the current one with some of this info included.. Designed more like weight training 101..
 
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In progress, I think we're gonna redo the current one with some of this info included.. Designed more like weight training 101..
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Thats cool. But Like I suggested before, it should be locked and no other posts to it to keep it nice and clean, and looking as professional as possible. And, if something needs added a mod can do it.....

Thanks for responding so quickly..... I was just curious as it has been a month.
 
Awesome thread, had all the information I was looking for in it. My only question is how often should you recalculate your BMR? Someone like me trying to loose weight, I'd think at a certain point I'd need to adjust my deficit if I wanted to continue to loose weight. THanks!
 
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