A Diet Plan that works for rapid weight loss, and muscle growth?

I am very frustrated. I am 21 years old and am in a bind. I gained 70 pounds during my pregnancy with my first child (currently 5'9-200 pounds)and the weight loss has been excrutiating! Around December 2006, I was down to a very reasonable 160 lbs. I was very excited but the way I lost all the weight was through the diet pill 'Venom' and excessive cardio. As soon as I stopped taking the supplement the weight started to come back on. This time I want to do it in a way where I can lose the weight and keep it off. I have been lifting weights and hitting the cardio at my local gym at least four times a week and I don't see anything drastic yet. My husband is a power-lifter and I realize when I eat what he eats. I gain weight! Help!
What kind of foods should I be eating and how many times a day! Are carbs the enemy- is high protien the answer? There are so many diet plans I am confused.
I want to lose fat rapidly but I want it to be replaced with lean muscle.

Any suggestions? THANKs A BUNCH!

-Jove
 
I am very frustrated. I am 21 years old and am in a bind. I gained 70 pounds during my pregnancy with my first child (currently 5'9-200 pounds)and the weight loss has been excrutiating! Around December 2006, I was down to a very reasonable 160 lbs. I was very excited but the way I lost all the weight was through the diet pill 'Venom' and excessive cardio. As soon as I stopped taking the supplement the weight started to come back on. This time I want to do it in a way where I can lose the weight and keep it off. I have been lifting weights and hitting the cardio at my local gym at least four times a week and I don't see anything drastic yet. My husband is a power-lifter and I realize when I eat what he eats. I gain weight! Help!

What kind of foods should I be eating and how many times a day!

This " 7 Habits " article represents a sound approach in deciding what ( and when ) to eat.

John Berardi - 7 Habits

Also, check out these thread links on...

Weight Loss FAQ
Get answers to many weight loss questions here.

- Weight Loss Intricate
This deals with the mental game of reaching your goals.

- Fat Loss Troubleshooting
Not seeing the fat loss you want? Read here to find out the problem and eliminate it.

- Nutritional Info
Questions and the right diet approach can be answered here.

- Grocery List
Not sure which foods to buy, check out this grocery list. Print it and get to the supermarket.​

http://training.fitness.com/new-member-intro/where-begin-all-info-links-18741.html


Are carbs the enemy- is high protien the answer? There are so many diet plans I am confused.

No - carbs are not fattening. Excess calories beyond what your body needs is what makes you fat..whether they are carb, protein or fat calories.

I want to lose fat rapidly but I want it to be replaced with lean muscle. Any suggestions? THANKs A BUNCH! -Jove

One or 2 other things might help you fine tune your goals and help the rest of us formulate some relevant suggestions as well.


1. What is your body fat % ?

If you want to lose fat, it's always a good idea to first get some rough idea of how much fat you currently have on you. You do this by calculating an estimate of your " body fat % ".

You can use this on-line calculator to ' ballpark ' your body fat %.........

BBLex - Calculator: Bodyfat calculation by US Navy formula



2. How many calories should I be eating each day ?

Here is an on-line calculator you can use to estimate what your ' maintenance calories ' ( just to keep you at your current weight ) might be......

Delaware Consumer Health Information Services



Now in terms of fat loss, you want to make some adjustments to this ' maintenance calories ' number you come up with above. This article below does a really nice job of reviewing the relevance of that ' maintenance calorie ' calc in terms of adjusting it when trying to lose fat.

Calorie Calculations and Calorie Calculators: How Many Calories a Day Should You Eat?



Do you have any idea of how many calories you consume each day ?

Try these calculators and tell us how they turned out.:)
 
I am very frustrated.


I am glad you decided to give this fine forum a WHIRL GIRL!​

Welcome to the forum where we work together to BRING OUT ONE'S BEST!

Well, my friend we are about to change this!

I am going to grab your hand....hold on to it......and together we walk in the right direction:

You TRIED and were DENIED; now wide EYED with PRIDE this frustration will SUBSIDE and the forum is your GUIDE!


I am 21 years old and am in a bind. I gained 70 pounds during my pregnancy with my first child (currently 5'9-200 pounds)and the weight loss has been excrutiating!


Don't be sad or unhappy with the reason for the weight gain, it served a life giving purpose.

Congrats on your new baby, I wish you and your husband all the best in life.





Around December 2006, I was down to a very reasonable 160 lbs. I was very excited but the way I lost all the weight was through the diet pill 'Venom' and excessive cardio. As soon as I stopped taking the supplement the weight started to come back on.

You WILL NOT convince me that this pill is FULLY responsible for your weight loss:

Venom Diet Pills - Potent Fat Burner - FemNutrition.com

I would put more odds that a change in the diet V activity ratio had more to do with the tissue loss you experienced, and the diet V activity ratio had more to do with your tissue gain, rather than any marketed and hyped and so called fat loss pill.

The bottom line is you can pop these "Venom" pills all day, do cardio until the sun burns black, and if you are eating more than what your body needs in calories, you WILL gain weight with or without this pill and without or without the cardio.

Therefore your caloric equation was tipped to the negative (deficit) side of what your body needed, and this is the reason you lost weight. Without knowing your full cardio routine and other parts of your training, I would play odds that the cardio and activities played a immense part of dipping your calories lower than what the body needed, which led to your impressive weight loss experience. :)

Give yourself more credit: You in fact did the work. It wasnt this pill that did the work, it was you.


The magic pill is you:

The Magic Pill:

There is a magic (fat burner) pill:

One walks in their...Magic Pillbox....everyday.

Its you and the body.

And, every time you continue your diet and exercise, you take one pill out of the box toward your goal.

Yes, there is a magic pill. Its you. And, you walk within it everyday.

Chillen
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An opposite Thought:

A Poison Pillbox

One walks in this Pillbox......everyday.

Every time you make an excuse to not exercise (when scheduled) or inappropriately cheat on the diet, you take one pill from this box against your goal

Yes, there is a poison Pillbox, and you walk in this everyday you make an inappropriate choice when dealing with the natural human impulses of the body.

Answer: Be the Magic Pill.


This time I want to do it in a way where I can lose the weight and keep it off. I have been lifting weights and hitting the cardio at my local gym at least four times a week and I don't see anything drastic yet.

How long have you been doing this? What exercises have you been doing? When working out, has this been a FBW (Full Body Workout)? List your exercises, sets, and reps, for this period up to the date of your post so we can get an idea of what you had been doing, and assist you in making adjustments if necessary........LETS GET IT ON!...........> :)



If the activities you are currently doing is not resulting in fat loss, then I would seriously look at your diet. You need to determine your calorie needs (Maintenance Line with activities) and then create a small deficit in calories reduced from your approximated MT LINE.


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This is how you do this:

Calculate your BMR:

The Harris Benedict equation determines calorie needs for men or woman as follows:

• It calculates your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) calorie requirements, based on your height, weight, age and gender.

• It increases your BMR calorie needs by taking into account the number of calories you burn through activities such as exercise.

This gives you your total calorie requirement or approximated Maintenance Line (I call it the MT Line).

Step One : Calculate your BMR with the following formula:

Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)
•Men: BMR = 66 + (6.23 x weight in pounds) + (12.7 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)

Step Two : In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:

•If you are sedentary : BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active: BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (You exercise daily.): BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 1.9

Create a Calorie Deficit:

In order to lose weight, you must create a calorie deficit. It is easier and healthier to cut back your calorie intake a little bit at a time.

Every 3,500 calories is equivalent to approximated 1 pound.

If you cut back 500 calories a day, you will lose approximated 1 pound per week. (not necessarily all fat)

If you exercise to burn off 500 calories a day you will also lose approximately 1 pound per week.

The calorie deficit margin is just an example:

Apply this knowledge by backing off the approximated MT Line (approximated Maintenance line), say for example, a -500c per day, for about 1 week. Before the week begins, weigh yourself in the AM when you FIRST get up (do not eat yet) (remember your clothing, preferably with just underwear and t-shirt or like clothes).

Note the time, and the approximated wgt. Each day spread your caloric content out throughout the day (keep the body fed, with calories in the 300 to 500c approximated calories each meal), or a like division which mirrors your end caloric deficit limit (meaning MT-500c).

This way you have your entire day and body encircled with nutrition (I assume you already know to eat clean), which if your eating right, will give an approximated good energy (not optimal because your in deficit) to fuel your training and exercising schedule.

At the end of the week, on the same day, the same time, with the same like clothes, weigh yourself again. Note whether you lost or gained tissue (or weight I mean). To further assist you, I want to tell you that for every approximated caloric deficit of (-3500c), one could lose 1lb of fat tissue. (though some may not all be fat tissue, this information is for another question, and isn't presently suited here).

Now, in this example you were calculating a -500c per day deficit. There needs to be -3500c to lose approximated 1lbs of fat. Now lets do some basic math. -500cX7=-3500c. With all things considered equal, and you were meticulous and faithful on the diet, you should have been CLOSE to losing at least one pound of tissue in the week.

If this didn't happen, this means you need to make finer adjustments, and the MT line is not accurate, and you need to adjust this on your own.

Based upon the FEEDBACK your body is giving you, ask yourself how faithful you were on the diet, AND how faithful in training (whether you kept the training schedule (if you didn't, this would effect the caloric equation, no?!), AND how accurate you figured in your activities caloric wise.........but, you have the base information to begin making adjustments.

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My husband is a power-lifter and I realize when I eat what he eats. I gain weight! Help!

The calories needs for men and not withstanding a male powerlifter are going to be different than for you, young lady. It may not be "nessarily" "what" you are eating as much as "how much" you are eating of what he eats.

From this day forward, you need to configure your MT LINE to your personal stats, adjust your calories for a deficit, and exercise at least 3 times per week, and you will see results..........and FLAT ROCK!


What kind of foods should I be eating and how many times a day!

Consider these types of foods:

○ Substitute an artificial sweetener of your choice in the replace of refined white sugar (Refrain from Refined Sugar like you would a disease)

○ Try eating 5 to 6 smaller meals during the day

○ Balance your meals out during the day so in one day you have a mix of protein, carbohydrate and good fats

○ Drink lots of water during the day and before, during and after exercise

○ Simple Carb Examples: Grapefruit, Watermelon, Cantaloupe, Strawberries, Oranges, Apples, Pineapple, etc

○ Complex Carb Examples: Whole Wheat Pita Bread, Oatmeal, Long Grain Brown Rice, Brown Pasta, Malto-Meal (Plain, whole wheat),etc

○ Good Protein Examples: White or Dark Tuna, Chicken Breast, Lean Turkey, Lean Ham, Very lean Beef, Quality Whey Protein Powder,, etc

○ Good Fats Examples: Natural Peanut Butter, Various Nuts, Flax Seed, Fish Oils.




Are carbs the enemy- is high protien the answer? There are so many diet plans I am confused.

A sound exercise routine that is complemented with a deficit diet will lead to the fat loss you seek, young lady.

Carbs are not your enemy, they are your friend......especially when deficit dieting for fat tissue loss. THE MOST IMPORTANT thing to concern yourself with is: the CALORIE v ACTIVITY equation. You nail this down......

You will dance like this when you lose weight and reach your goal:

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and smile like this:

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and this will get you there:

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I wish you the best in all that you set out to do.

I am in your corner all the time everyday.......I couldnt wish you more luck in your journey, young lady!


Sincerely,

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And to bring a smile:



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Wow!

:luxlove:
Thank you all so much!!!! All the information was so helpful! And the advice so encouraging! I am excited about tomorrow! I definately have some new found Pep- in my step! Once again, thank you.

About the Venom Pill, I guess I gave it too much CREDIT, :)...but it did always make me nauseous, so I could honestly say that cut down alot of my cravings, and want' of food.
-This time around I will just think about my goals at every meal and let that be my deterrent of 'overeating, and 'junk food.

I did calculate my bodyfat which is at 36.1 percent.
And my BMR- is 1744

Beside my BMR- was this table

Activity Factor- Daily Caloric Needs
sedentary (little or no exercise) -2093
lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) -2398
moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) -2703
very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) - 3008
extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) - 3314


These calorie needs are to maintain my current weight? So I must eat less than this?

Also I had one more question about eating these small frequent meals. What would a daily meal plan look like? And what are the portion sizes?

I am used to eating a moderate breakfast and two hearty meals, maybe a snack or two.

My exercise plan lately has been, example:

Monday- (weights) Bench Press, Lower & Upper Back, Pull-ups (with assistance), Some abs (untill sore)- then 30 minutes on the StairMaster.

Tuesday- Legs (box squats, lunges with and without weights, calve raises) Shoulders...I tend not to do cardio on days that I do legs.

Wednesday (tomorrow)- Cardio/ StairMaster 30 minutes, Biceps and Triceps, then abs...

Anything I can improve?

Thank you for everything! I will definately keep you updated! It feels wonderful to have good sound advice and people in your corner!

Hey maybe I'll post before and AFTER pictures!!!!
-JoveGirl
 
-This time around I will just think about my goals at every meal and let that be my deterrent of 'overeating, and 'junk food.

If you follow some of those basic ' 7 Habits " ( from that link i gave your earlier ) to your eating strategy and goal setting for each meal, you'll be off to a good start IMO.:)

I did calculate my bodyfat which is at 36.1 percent.

For what it's worth.

For ( Caucasian ) women, a ' healthy normal ' body fat level is somewhere around 22%. Above normal fat is somewhere around 27% - 31% ( high fat is over 31% ) However, the average for most women in the U.S. is closer to 32%. So, not to worry, you're close to average for most women.:)

You're 200 lbs now. Let's say you wanted to get down to a more normal 25% as your first goal. That would put you at a target weight of 170 lbs. So, you would have to lose 30 lbs of fat. For most people, you can lose anywhere from 1 lb. a week to 2 lbs a week safely - let's say 1.5 lbs is a reasonable target. So, at that rate, it would take you 20 weeks / 5 months to lose that fat.

The point being, once you have determined a ballpark bodyfat%, you have to use that information to set some goals / targets for yourself.

And my BMR- is 1744
Beside my BMR- was this table

Activity Factor- Daily Caloric Needs
sedentary (little or no exercise) -2093
lightly active (light exercise/sports 1-3 days/week) -2398
moderatetely active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/week) -2703
very active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days a week) - 3008
extra active (very hard exercise/sports & physical job or 2x training) - 3314


These calorie needs are to maintain my current weight? So I must eat less than this?


Correct - that is the amount to pretty much keep you at the weight you're at.

The idea is to determine your daily " maintenance calorie " as best you can - in this case let's assume it's around 2,700 calories a day. In most cases, to help you create a calorie deficit, you want to cut that daily " maintenance calorie " by around 20%. In the case of 2,700 calories - that's done ( i.e 20% ) by cutting about 540 calories a day from what you're eating all day.

Also I had one more question about eating these small frequent meals. What would a daily meal plan look like? And what are the portion sizes?I am used to eating a moderate breakfast and two hearty meals, maybe a snack or two.

Let's assume you decide you want to consume 2,200 calories a day. Based on that Berardi link, an ideal approach is to try and eat something every 2.5 - 3 hours ( if you can )....so you want to spread out those 2,200 calories over 6-7 meals if you can.

For example, here's an approach I used ( i.e 7 meals ) when I used to train after work.....

7:00 a.m : breakfast
9:30 a.m.: snack
12:00 noon : lunch
3:00 p.m. : snack
5:00 p.m. : pre workout snack
7:30 p.m. : post workout snack
8:30 p.m. : Dinner​

...you could make a similar schedule to fit your particular needs.

In addition, in an ideal world, you have to be able to track calories and grams of fat, carbs and protein. Protein can be anywhere from 15% - 25% of your daily maintenance calories ; fats anywhere from 35% - 25% of your daily maintenance calories with the rest coming from carbs. So, it doesn't matter if each meal has that exact proportion of macronutrients just so long as you fall within ( or get close to ) your overall target goals by the end of each day.

To help you track your calories and grams, make sure you have a small kitchen scale at the ready. Also, to try and figure out which food has how many calories and grams of carbs, fat etc, this link may ( the example is Cheerios :)) be of help ....




This a great on-line tool - Fitday ( many people on this forum use it ) - that you can use to track calories and grams of fat, carbs, and protien.............
 
Also I had one more question about eating these small frequent meals. What would a daily meal plan look like? And what are the portion sizes?

Good question.

Most people are pretty surprised at what a normal " serving size " of food actual is. For example, ( from Google ).....


The Bread, Cereal, Rice, and Pasta Group

1 cup of potatoes, rice, pasta ....................a tennis ball, ice cream scoop
1 pancake .........................................a compact disc (CD)
1/2 cooked cup rice ..............................a cupcake wrapper full
1 piece of cornbread ..............................a bar of soap
1 cup of pasta, spaghetti, cereal.................a fist
2 cups of cooked pasta .............................a full outstretched hand

The Vegetable Group


1 cup green salad.................................. a baseball or a fist
1 baked potato ........................................a fist
3/4 cup tomato juice ..............................a small styrofoam cup
1/2 cup cooked broccoli .............................a scoop of ice cream or a light bulb

The Fruit Group

1/2 cup of grapes (15 grapes) ........................a light bulb
1/2 cup of fresh fruit .....................................7 cotton balls
1 medium size fruit ....................................a tennis ball or a fist
1 cup of cut-up fruit ...................................a fist
1/4 cup raisins.............................................a large egg

The Milk, Yogurt, and Cheese Group

1 1/2 ounces cheese.....................................3 dominoes or your index and middle fingers
1 ounce of cheese........................................a pair of dice or your thumb
1 cup of ice cream........................................a large scoop the size of a baseball

The Meat, Poultry, Fish, Dry Beans, Eggs, and Nuts Group


2 tablespoons peanut butter................................a ping-pong ball
1 teaspoon peanut butter...................................a fingertip
1 tablespoon peanut butter.................................a thumb tip
3 ounces cooked meat, fish, poultry.......................a palm, a deck or cards or a cassette tape
3 ounces grilled/baked fish..................................a checkbook
3 ounces cooked chicken ..................................a chicken leg and thigh or breast

Fats, Oils and Sweets

1 teaspoon butter, margarine.......................size of a stamp the thickness of your finger or a thumb tip
2 tablespoons salad dressing.........................a ping-pong ball

Snack Foods

1 ounce of nuts or small candies............................one handful
1 ounce of chips or pretzels..................................two handfuls
1/2 cup of potato chips, crackers or popcorn............one man's handful
1/3 cup of potato chips, crackers or popcorn............one woman's handful​


..food for thought ( excuse the pun ! ):)
 
Wow!

Thank you again Wrangell! Those portion sizes are very helpful, especially that online food journal!
I find this weight loss plan to be alot easier and more enjoyable with these new found resources:)
It seems like eating frequent, smaller meals helps keep your 'hunger' level down because your body is being satisfied and sustained all day long.

I'm glad I found this forum, I had previously gone to an online diet source and they gave me the information that I shouldn't consume more that 1350 calories a day! I now see that 1350 calories is an extreme approach to eating less and can be very unhealthy if I add exercise to it.

I am really in good spirits about my weightloss plan!

-JoveGirl
 
Im glad you feel good. Your are very welcome.

In addition to the comments myself and Wrangell have made, I would like to make one more suggestion:

I suggest you make your own diet and training journal in the woman's sesction of the forum: You could impart your diet and training, ask questions, impart your feelings, and I think you will get alot more assistance.

I will be one of your greatest fans! I promise to be with you.....in your journey! I will help all I can in all that you may need......

Give it some thought, young lady!



Chillen
 
Thank you again Wrangell!

No worries - we're here to help you along the way ( should you need it ) :)

Those portion sizes are very helpful, especially that online food journal! I find this weight loss plan to be alot easier and more enjoyable with these new found resources:)

I know - most people tend to grossly over-estimate portion sizes - which may be part of the reason they got overweight / fat in the first place.

Glad you find the tracking tools of help. In the initial stage of the learning curve of developing a sustainable fat loss plan, nailing down your total calories and total grams of fat, protein and carbohydrates is key. If you don't track your food consumption ' on paper ' in some way, shape or form and ( as a result ) have no clue about the numeric values associated with the foods you eat...more often than not you'll be chasing your tail and not progressing toward your goal in the optimal manner as perhaps you should ( if at all ).

It seems like eating frequent, smaller meals helps keep your 'hunger' level down because your body is being satisfied and sustained all day long.

Exactly.

It may be a bit easier said than done, but if you can figure out a way to squeeze in those 3 meals PLUS 3 snacks a day by eating every 3 hours of so, you'll really be ahead of the game IMO.

Frequent meals will not only help you trend toward smaller portion sizes, but it will help keep your blood sugar levels stable ( which will keep you satiated and keep those cravings down ), amino acids in your blood at adequate levels etc. etc.

I'm glad I found this forum, I had previously gone to an online diet source and they gave me the information that I shouldn't consume more that 1350 calories a day! I now see that 1350 calories is an extreme approach to eating less and can be very unhealthy if I add exercise to it.

Exactly right.

I am really in good spirits about my weightloss plan!-JoveGirl

Glad to hear it.:)

Keep in mind that starting out on a plan of attack in the war against fat isn't easy. Trying to lose weight and get fit is tough - it's NOT easy. It's nowhere near as tough as 9 month's of pregnancy mind you ( :) ) BUT it does take time to lose the fat you want ( in your case it could be 5 months +/- - ) as well as dedication and discipline.

That said, often times, things that are hard to do are among the most satisfying and rewarding - like being a parent ( learned that the hard way from my 4 kids :) ) ! The journey of losing fat can be tough but it can also be a very rewarding experience once you finally reach your goals.

Let us know if we can be of any more help.
 
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Yesterdays' Food Journal

This was my consumption yesterday...is this a good start?

Calories Eaten Today

Total: 1600

grams cals %total
Fat: 46 412 27%
Sat: 8 70 5%
Poly: 9 81 5%
Mono: 12 108 7%
Carbs: 202 685 45%
Fiber: 31 0 0%
Protein: 104 415 27%
Alcohol: 0 0 0%

(I was full at 1600 claories! I don't know how I reached 1600 even, but I was very Meticulous)
 
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