Seeking advice on new weight training routine please

Hey everyone,

For the past 2 months or so, I've been aimlessly visiting the gym 3-4x per week with no regular workouts.

I developed the following workout routine (working all parts of the body), can you guys please comment on it?

Sunday
Off

Monday (Chest/Triceps)
- Bench Press
- Tricep Press Down
- Dips
- Dumbbell Flys

Tuesday
Off

Wednesday (Biceps/Back)
- Standing Barbell Curls
- Lat Pulldowns
- Seated Rows
- 1 Arm Dumbell Rows

Thursday
Off

Friday (Shoulders/Legs)
- Seated Dumbell Press
- Lat Dumbbell Raises
- Various Leg Excersizes
- Abs

Saturday
Off


Thanks!!
 
if you are new to training you would do more for yourself if you did fullbody three times a week using compounds'
3 workouts a wk
squat
benchpress
deadlift
shoulder press
pulldowns or chins
dips
thats it grow and eat
 
Hey,

The advice from the last post (buzz) was great. You will want to stick with a few of the most comprehensive multijoint exercises like squats and deadlifts. Especially as a begginer.

Choosing the right exercises is important but what is of great importance also, are the parameters that you use in your training program.

As a begginer you will be best off training with lighter loads for greater TOT or time under tension. So I would suggest 2-4 sets, 12-15 reps, with a rest interval less than 1 minute. Also, useing a slower tempo will allow longer time under tension. Your TOT for each set will be between 1 1/2 to 3 mins. This way you activate oxidative tissues that need to be conditioned for later more intense workout 6-8 weeks later.

Training with a 3 day spilt is OK too. Full body each time is good too. Just ensure that you are getting adequate rest in between workouts. This includes getting to bed no later than 10:30 pm and waking around 6:30. Eat the right balance of food for your metabolic type... every 3 hours or so. And drink 1/2 your bodyweight in oz. of water everyday!

Train Hard, Rest Hard.

Elliott Hulse "The Primal Guy"
 
Am I considered a beginner though? As I said I've been lifting recently for the past 2 months.

I'm 19 years old. 175 pounds, 5'10. When I was 14 and 15, I played football and wrestling and did a solid amount of lifting. Then when I was 17ish I did a moderate amount of lifting as part of a weight training class.
 
dgessler said:
Am I considered a beginner though? As I said I've been lifting recently for the past 2 months.

Yes you are, two months is not that long.

As far as you're routine goes, I recommend this and in this order for now:

Monday (Chest/Triceps)
- Bench Press
--Stability Ball Chest Press
- Dips
- Tricep Press Down

Tuesday
Off

Wednesday (Biceps/Back)
- 1 Arm Dumbell Rows
- Lat Pulldowns
- Seated Rows
- Standing Barbell Curls
--Some light rotator cuff work as well using the cable machines
Thursday
Off

Friday (Shoulders/Legs)
- Seated Dumbell Press
- Lat Dumbbell Raises
- Various Leg Excersizes (Squats or Seated Leg Press)
- Abs

Saturday
Off
 
protein synthesis(muscle growth) occurs when you pick up a weight and lasts for 48hrs.
so the problem with a split routine like tony recomended is if you do chest on monday it will grow for 48hrs then nothing for 5 days.
if you do a fullbody workout mon,wed,fri,thats 6 days of growth with one day of.
 
It takes longer than 48 hours to repair and recover muscle. Major muscles (chest, legs, back) can take up to 5-7 days. Working the same muscle during this period of recovery inhibits growth. Tony's suggested routine works well.
 
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I agree with hippo and tony. I used to do a 48 hour rest full workout, and i saw some very slow gains. When i moved to a split routine, i blew through my max weights in a matter of days
 
the nervous system doesn;t take as long as the actual muscle to recover so you coulod train the same the next day if you could hack the soreness but obviously with low int and high reps as a recovery type session
 
big angry hippo said:
It takes longer than 48 hours to repair and recover muscle. Major muscles (chest, legs, back) can take up to 5-7 days. Working the same muscle during this period of recovery inhibits growth. Tony's suggested routine works well.

We both know its a common misconception...
 
Really? More than 48 hours to recover? For 3 years I've been used to training/stretching my muslces every other day, which is like 3 times a week...are you telling me I was actually doing more harm than good?
 
big angry hippo said:
It takes longer than 48 hours to repair and recover muscle. Major muscles (chest, legs, back) can take up to 5-7 days. Working the same muscle during this period of recovery inhibits growth. Tony's suggested routine works well.
actually you have it the wrong way round studies have shown that even though a muscle is loaded again the next day it did not inhibit growth.if you train to faliure you will burn out your cns first not your muscles..so you dont train to faliure and train every other day.

also read this
 
The reason HST calls for more frequent training is because the acute anabolic effects of training, such as increased protein synthesis, muscle-specific IGF-1 expression, and other factors involved in modulation of short term protein synthesis, only last for 36-48 hours. There is also mounting evidence of a "summation" effect by exercising while levels of these signals and responses are elevated, as should be expected.

This does not mean that the structural repairs to the tissue have been completed. Research has demonstrated that you can train a muscle before it is fully recovered structurally and not inhibit its ability to continue to recover. So, HST uses this evidence and calls for repeated loading (training) every 48 hours or so to keep the anabolic activity of the muscle high, while trying to stay slightly ahead of the structural recovery curve by constantly increasing the load each workout. Staying ahead of the structural recovery curve is really key to elicit real growth in a person who has lifted for quite a while. Of course, injuries can develop over time if care isn't taken to take time to heal, and prepare the tendons for repeated heavy bouts of lifting (SD and 15s serve this purpose in HST).

"Recovery" can refer to several different things.

1) "Recovery" can refer to the structural repair process of fixing the microtrauma. The damaged proteins can takes several days to be repaired and all evidence of damage removed. Even at the end of seven days after significant muscle damage from eccentric muscle actions, you may still see some small fibers regenerating.

2) Strength - this can be acute recovery as in the necessary time to rest between sets. Or it can mean the days that it usually takes to regain baseline strength after muscle damaging exercise.

So the trick is to have the CNS "recover" just in time to hit the muscle again as the acute anabolic effects are wearing off. That way you can stay anabolic more of the time. Training once every 7 days will still allow you to grow, it just takes longer for the gains to accumulate. Training more frequently is more efficient if your goal is just to get bigger

To understand, you have to consider the total volume over time. A week is easiest to consider, so, over the course of a week, it is the total volume that is important. So 9 total sets for chest can be done in one workout or in several workouts. Both will stimulate growth. However, you will be anabolic more of the time if you can actually create that stimulus more often. In the case of HST, 3 times as often. There is a physiological benefit (acute anabolic effects of training) in doing 9 sets as 3 sets X 3 workouts, as opposed to 9 sets all at once - and then nothing for the next 7 days.
 
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