Squat Form????

Ok so I have been looking at a lot of advice on squat form and dead lift form. My head is now spinning. What is the best beginner advice you can give to get me started without hurting myself on both exercises?

THANKS
 
Here, I have a couple of step-by-step instructions with photos for you.

It's in the leg section. Just click on squats or deadlifts:



Good luck!

(P.S. For beginners, practice with very light weight and move up!)
 
What kind of build do you have....this will have a huge impact on your form and execution. You can't give blanket recommendations since the biomechanics of these major lifts can be very hard to execute for individuals with long limbs.
 
aha your like me. I usually have a large stance and my feet are pointed outward a little. For grip I put my pointer finger on the ring in the barbell and grip from there. I rest the bar on the shelf of my back. Most people put the bar too high, but put it lower although it may feel akward at first. Make sure your elbows are pointing towards the ground when you squat. Keep your head up and loking forward. I push my knees outward and my ass backward and keep an arch in my back, with my chest out. If you are box squatting it is always good to pause on the box and explode up.
 
So on squats, my back should be completely straight up and down, not leaning forward at all right? If so, doesnt that make you feel like you are going to fall backwards?
 
One more quick question, would it be better to start on a smith machine, or do you think I will be fine with lighter weights and just a normal barbell?
 
Ok, squats are not a friendly exercise for individuals with long limbs! To answer you questions first, I would not use a smith machine, use free weights. And no, your back should not stay completely erect straight up and down, this would make the exercise pretty much impossible.

With your stance, I recommend going a little wider then shoulder width, no more then 6 inches wider. This will help an individual with long form from leaning too far forward. Also, someone with long legs also has a lot longer of a range of motion he/she needs to go through to execute the exercise then the average person. By widening your stance, you will decrease the range of motion you must travel through, which in this case is a good thing!

I would point your toes slightly outward, to 1 and 11 o'clock. This targets your quads the best and will help maintain your balance with your widened stance.

Your knees should follow the same direction that your toes and hips are pointing. If you find that they are traveling inward of your stance, or bowing outward, you are either going to heavy or need to really work on flexibility before executing the squat.

I recommend going to parallel with your quads, meaning in the lowest position of the exercise, your upper legs are parallel with the floor. Many say you must go lower then parallel if you really want to hit your quads and get a good stretch, however, with individuals with long limbs do this, 99% of the time it is impossible to maintain proper biomechanics of the exercise, so parallel will be just fine.

Your torso is naturally going to lean forward, since your butt is going to be sticking out and leaning back. If you stayed perfectly erect, you would fall over backwards, which would not feel good at all! So leaning forward is good. However, many individuals with long limbs lean too far forward due to their physiology. You need to focus as to not lean more then 45 degrees forward. Keep your back as straight as possible, with no rounding of the lower back. If you lean too forward, you will be placing far too much pressure on the vetabrae.

Someone mentioned earlier that many individuals place the bar way to high on their shoulders. That is not true. There are two positions you can use for the bar when squatting. If you place the bar high on your traps, this is known as bodybuilding style squats. If you place it lower on the shelf of your shoulder blades, this is more of a powerlifters squat. Neither is right or wrong. However, if you find that you have a hard time with forward lean, I would recommend holding the bar in the high position. For many, especially long limbed individuals, this helps them maintain a more upright posture.

Hope this helps!
 
Heading to the gym right now, gonna try out all the advice. Thanks alot for all the input. I am def gonna start with some very light weight to gauge my flexibility and strength. Will let you know how it goes.... this is just the beginning of trying to add more of the compound movments into my workout so I dont want to just jump right in and try and do what I was doing on the seated quad press.

THANKS for all the help
 
big angry hippo said:
Here, I have a couple of step-by-step instructions with photos for you.

It's in the leg section. Just click on squats or deadlifts:



Good luck!

(P.S. For beginners, practice with very light weight and move up!)

Dude the deadlift form in the pics is incorrect. If you are doing regular deadlifts your legs and body should be inside your arms and your butt should be low. If you are doing sumo deadlifts your stance should be wider and your grip closer.
 
OK, so the squats went well the other night. I did not get a chance to do them with a free barbell because they were all taken, but I did them on the smith machine. I used a pad around the bar though because it didnt feel too good with just the bar on my traps. It wasnt terribly uncomfortable but the rubber pad felt much better. Other than that, it went good. My lower back had a very minor ache in it directly after the sets but went away almost imediatley, is this normal? IF not how to I prevent this?
 
poolman said:
OK, so the squats went well the other night. I did not get a chance to do them with a free barbell because they were all taken, but I did them on the smith machine. I used a pad around the bar though because it didnt feel too good with just the bar on my traps. It wasnt terribly uncomfortable but the rubber pad felt much better. Other than that, it went good. My lower back had a very minor ache in it directly after the sets but went away almost imediatley, is this normal? IF not how to I prevent this?

Squats do hit your lower back, especially at higher intensities such as a lot of reps or really heavy weight. But either way, it does hit your lower back, which is great.
 
Don't worry about your lower back. As for getting cut...lose fat. Do cardio, lift weights, and eat healthy. There is a lot of information on this site.

for some extra diet tips, exercises, routines, etc.
 
if noone has said yet: Chest out, shoulderblades retracted, grip as narrow as possible without discomfort, to create that "shelf" on the upper back to put the bar on.
 
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