What size weights are you using.
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Toly said:
I don't recommend it because you can get results from a bad routine, until it's too late and you've over developed the pecs and have a cromagnon look or overdeveloped the quads and have hamstrings too tight to bend over.
Check out the arm position on this guy:
I'll always recommend someone new do a pre-made. Most people don't know what they are doing so they shouldn't make their own until they learn how to balance.
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Proteinboy said:
What are you goals?
I'll echo Bip's response and ask you to cite.
But in a nutshell, intense training creates stress, on the physiology and the CNS, but so does a new house purchase or losing a job. Stress is stress and requires rest to recoup.
When I went into the army in 1984, a drill from another platoon suffered hysterical paralysis from the stress and was out for a month and all he did was chase privates all day and try to stay on schedule.
The stress from continuous overtraining can lead to the same effect.
Numero Tres: Low rep strength training is not overly exhausting and taxing to the CNS!
there it says its not taxing to the cns
Training to failure can also have a negative impact on a number of other major bodily systems. It swings your hormonal balance towards catabolism, depresses immune function by inhibiting the release of glutamine into your bloodstream (4), and can even suppress your ability to recruit high threshold motor units for prolonged periods of time (6). Last but not least, it's also worth mentioning that pushing to such extremes can drastically increase your chances of getting injured. Yep, sounds like a winning program to me all right.
and here it sounds like they are saying that it is...
anyway; my workout program now is based on what i have learned from Sean Nalewanyj; i have been on it for just 2 weeks now; do you recommend i change to the 5 day program described by Joel Marion because i AM willing to change now but i dont know if it is smart to just change routines all of a sudden.
thanks
there it says its not taxing to the cns
Training to failure can also have a negative impact on a number of other major bodily systems. It swings your hormonal balance towards catabolism, depresses immune function by inhibiting the release of glutamine into your bloodstream (4), and can even suppress your ability to recruit high threshold motor units for prolonged periods of time (6). Last but not least, it's also worth mentioning that pushing to such extremes can drastically increase your chances of getting injured. Yep, sounds like a winning program to me all right.
and here it sounds like they are saying that it is...
anyway; my workout program now is based on what i have learned from Sean Nalewanyj; i have been on it for just 2 weeks now; do you recommend i change to the 5 day program described by Joel Marion because i AM willing to change now but i dont know if it is smart to just change routines all of a sudden.
thanks
ok im talking about this routine
thats where it is
and my goals are to gain as much mass muscle as i can so i can go back to school a totally different person. (not concerned about gaining body fat for now).
and thanks for clarifying that training to failure question
thats where it is
and my goals are to gain as much mass muscle as i can so i can go back to school a totally different person. (not concerned about gaining body fat for now).
and thanks for clarifying that training to failure question
basically i think this routine makes sense but i dont really know anything about.....anything! im kind of worried that working out 6 of 7 days a week might be too much but the splits look pretty logical.
I'm not a huge fan of RRD, 1 or 2, personally, but it does represent a giant leap ahead of what you were doing. How long have you been training for, PB? That makes a big difference in what you should do and how you should do it.Proteinboy said:
In general, for a beginner, I typically recommend HGM. Have a look:
ok before i look il tell you my history
i started training at 13(im15)
i lost weight doing cardio and pushups for 1 year and then i strated overtraining running pushups and tons of crunches for 1/2 year. it was bad. 3 months ago, i realized i was overtraining and started gaining weight again(a good thing for me) i have been lifting weights for about 1/3 year incorrectly; then i went on HIT for 2 weeks. This is where i am now. I have pretty much no knowlege about good routines or not but i have pretty good endurance from all the stuff i did before.
stats:
age 15
weight: 130
height: 5'6-5'7
ps: i rested about 3 weeks after i realized i was overtraining so its not affecting me now.
i started training at 13(im15)
i lost weight doing cardio and pushups for 1 year and then i strated overtraining running pushups and tons of crunches for 1/2 year. it was bad. 3 months ago, i realized i was overtraining and started gaining weight again(a good thing for me) i have been lifting weights for about 1/3 year incorrectly; then i went on HIT for 2 weeks. This is where i am now. I have pretty much no knowlege about good routines or not but i have pretty good endurance from all the stuff i did before.
stats:
age 15
weight: 130
height: 5'6-5'7
ps: i rested about 3 weeks after i realized i was overtraining so its not affecting me now.
okay, basically i went to the site and clicked on Iron Manual. then i clicked on the beginner logs. . Is this all i need for my whole routine?
For now, yes...HGM is a year-long series written by Ian King, a well-known and highly respected Strength coach who has made tons of contributions to the field. What you posted is phase 1...this (I believe) is the entire beginner sequence:Proteinboy said:
Make sure that you read the entire series so that you understand what is expected of you in the workout. Remember: just because I (or anyone, for that matter) recommends something to you, that doesn't mean that you should just blindly follow it. Listen, evaluate, and decide if it's right for you.
i also have a lot of questions about this workout routine because im not actually a BEGINNER because i am pretty physically fit but i just dont know a lot about stuff. should i use the beginner section? it might be too easy. it recommends 12-15 reps and im used to doing lower higher intensity sets. i also dont understand how or why they sepearte exercises into triads. they say to do 12 to 15 repetitions of each exercise in a triad, with no rest between exercises. do they mean once you finish the bench press do another set of bench press with no rest or move onto the next exercise-dead lift?
If you're unfamiliar with the exercises or the proper technique, then you're a beginner. Also, in a triad, you move between the 3 exercises. Do you really think that you could perform the next set of 12 reps if you just finished a set of 12 reps? That doesn't make sense.Proteinboy said:
i guess...they dont explain anything about putting on more weight. should i just add more weight when i feel comfortable? i like the otehr program because it increases weights.
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oh ok i will try this new beginers course and drop the HIT. thanks so much for redirecting me im glad i have a pro helping me out. i think later after my beninning training i might switch and try the other workout routine that you showed me in rugged mag. thanks again. since its not very intense, is it okay to do 3 full bodies/week?
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and then do you do each triad 3 times so that you get all 3 sets in???
do you rest at the end of you first 3 sets?
do you rest at the end of you first 3 sets?
ok i will thanks for the patience