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alguno de vosotros habeis probado este producto o conoceis a alguien q lo haya probado?os ha funcionado?el x-factor de molecular nutrition es basicamente acido arachidonico me han dicho k es la caña lo venden a mas de 100 euros yo lo puedo pillar por unos 50 euros es mirando al futuro no al presente este producto jajaja.
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Es un tipo de producto que sí funciona. No es milagroso, pero funciona.

Para maximizar resultados, dieta hiperproteica y aumentar el consumo de Omega 6 (huevos enteros, cacahuetes, etc.) durante el ciclo (2 botes).

Se puede tomar junto a un test booster, hay bastantes stacks que dan buenos resultados como podrás comprobar en logs de foros USA.

Casi indispensable un protector articular mientras dure la toma.

Aquí te dejo un estudio bastante completo:

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Es un tipo de producto que sí funciona. No es milagroso, pero funciona.

Para maximizar resultados, dieta hiperproteica y aumentar el consumo de Omega 6 (huevos enteros, cacahuetes, etc.) durante el ciclo (2 botes).

Se puede tomar junto a un test booster, hay bastantes stacks que dan buenos resultados como podrás comprobar en logs de foros USA.

Casi indispensable un protector articular mientras dure la toma.

Aquí te dejo un estudio bastante completo:

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me puedes indicar un buen protector articular?el unico k conozco es el cartilago de tiburon y no estoy seguro la verdad...es necesario tomar dos botes para ver resultados o solo para maximizarlo??
 
El ciclo son dos botes. No se empieza a notar hasta al final del primer bote.

Me refiero a cosas tipo cartílago de tiburón, glucosamina, vamos los típicos productos que verás en la sección de protectores articulares de cualquier tienda online. Muy completo, por ejemplo, el Animal Flex.
 
X Factor funciona

Es un suplemento que he utilizado y la verdad es que funciona y muy bien, el ciclo son dos botes y se nota de verdad, masa muscular limpia, es un punto de suplemento.
 
Buenas, refloto el hilo porque me parece bastante interesante este suplemento, ahora en septiembre estoy por iniciar un "ciclo" (dos botes) de x-factor. Se me plantean varias cuestiones, la primera _porrero_; ¿Que producto creeis que da mejores resultado, el Animal Test o el X-Factor?, y ahora disparo la segunda jeje, ¿se puede combinar con las tomas de creatina?.


¡¡Un saludo!!
 
Buenas, refloto el hilo porque me parece bastante interesante este suplemento, ahora en septiembre estoy por iniciar un "ciclo" (dos botes) de x-factor. Se me plantean varias cuestiones, la primera _porrero_; ¿Que producto creeis que da mejores resultado, el Animal Test o el X-Factor?, y ahora disparo la segunda jeje, ¿se puede combinar con las tomas de creatina?.


¡¡Un saludo!!

Pues viendo su composicion claramente el Animal Test te dara mas resultado, ya que el x-factor lleva 250mg de AA y el Animal Test lleva mas AA (aunque no especifica exactamente cuanto) ademas de varios compuestos, con lo cual el Animal Test te dara mas resultados.

A ver que opina chedu al respecto pero creo que estara de acuerdo conmigo viendo su post anterior.
 
Se me plantean varias cuestiones, la primera _porrero_; ¿Que producto creeis que da mejores resultado, el Animal Test o el X-Factor?, y ahora disparo la segunda jeje, ¿se puede combinar con las tomas de creatina?.
El X-Factor lo ponen muy bien en los foros de USA, yo el próximo AA que meta será del X-factor, aunque para saber cual funciona mejor habría que probar los dos.

Puedes combinarlo con creatina y no descuides la dieta, hay que meter carbos y protes a saco. También sería buena idea tomar un protector articular como animal flex, al menos yo también lo tomaré porque al batir tus marcas y tirar más peso las articualciones se resienten (al menos en mi caso).

Saludos!!
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Pues viendo su composicion claramente el Animal Test te dara mas resultado, ya que el x-factor lleva 250mg de AA y el Animal Test lleva mas AA (aunque no especifica exactamente cuanto) ademas de varios compuestos, con lo cual el Animal Test te dara mas resultados.

A ver que opina chedu al respecto pero creo que estara de acuerdo conmigo viendo su post anterior.

no,el x-factor son 250mg cada capsula,pero metes de 3 a 4 al dia,el animal test es un paqute al dia y solo lleva 250mg creo que era,estaria bien combinarlos pero veo mejor el x-factor,y sino combinar x-factor+mass fx que seria un animal test en mas cantidad,aunque un pelin mas caro tambien
 
no,el x-factor son 250mg cada capsula,pero metes de 3 a 4 al dia,el animal test es un paqute al dia y solo lleva 250mg creo que era,estaria bien combinarlos pero veo mejor el x-factor,y sino combinar x-factor+mass fx que seria un animal test en mas cantidad,aunque un pelin mas caro tambien

Hmm seguro que el Animal Test solo trae 250mg? Donde has encontrado esa informacion? Segun tengo entendido trae bastante mas.

Igualmente aunque traiga solo 250mg (que me parece raro) me sigue gustando mas su composicion, es mas completa.

Y en cuanto a combinaciones, la mejor combincion no hormonal que existe actualmente es Jungle Warfare + MassFX + Halodrol Liquigels.
 
Más info sobre el X-Factor

X Factor FAQ 4/14/07 (subject to revision later)


1. What is X factor

X factor is the name for arachidonic acid, an essential fatty acid normally stored in cell membranes that is responsible for signaling adaptive changes in response to stress and other stimuli.

2. What does it do?

Prostaglandins from X factor are intimately involved with protein synthesis and hypertrophy after exercise (1,2) . Arachidonic acid also is correlated with improved insulin sensitivity (3), satellite cell activation and proliferation (4), cell regeneration and repair (5) , and increases Nitric oxide formation in the muscle being trained. Other benefits include possible long term improvement in vascularity via stimulation of angiogenesis (6) in muscles being trained, PPAR beta/delta agonist properties (7) (increase Uncoupling proteins for a thermogenic effect), and inhibition of stearoyl-CoA desaturase-1 (8) (which is strongly correlated with negative partitioning in humans therefore paving the way for body composition improvement). On top of all this it inhibits resistin (9) which may have further benefits as far as insulin control goes.



3. How does it accomplish this?

When the muscle is stimulated by anaerobic metabolism (ie, muscle contraction) arachidonic acid is released from the muscle cell wall by phospholipase A2. Once released arachidonic acid interacts with the COX-2 enzyme forming prostaglandins such as PGF 2 alpha and PGE2. It is these prostaglandins that instruct the cell to increase protein synthesis and other beneficial responses to exercise.

4. Are there other reasons I should take it?

Muscle is not just protein and amino acids. There actually is a plasma membrane cell wall that needs to surround the contractile protein. The type of fatty acids (preferably essential fatty acids like x factor) determine the responsiveness of the skeletal muscle as unit to various signals. That is why this product is so "core" to the muscle building process and has effects above and beyond what protein can do.
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5. Is it safe?

Yes, as a matter of fact it is a component of Baby food. Studies using up to 1.5 grams of Arachidonic acid per day for 50 days have shown no ill effects. (10,11,12) Our own study at one gram per day also showed no ill effects. (13) As a matter of fact x factor showed very strong trends at reducing an important inflammatory marker predictive of total mortality. The marker reduced was IL-6 while corn oil (another omega 6) meanwhile had no effect (14) So X factor may very well have a protective benefit.


6. Are their side effects?

Some people notice sore joints, headaches, insomnia. Others haven't notice any side effects.

7. What about these "bad prostaglandins" I have been hearing x factor makes?

"Bad prostaglandins" stimulate and lower cAMP and make platelets sticky when anaerobic metabolism is stimulated (like when a blood vessel cuts cut). In someone active and training "anaerobically"they are useful for improving glycogen synthesis (directly in the muscle) Why? Because cAMP phsophorylates glycogen synthetase and thus inactivates it. So you definitely need some "bad" prostaglandins if you are physically active and want to maximize glycogen synthesis.

Now.....

In someone sedentary they don't have active muscles so in general they are anaerobic everywhere due to the hyperinsulinemia. So pretty everywhere in there body is getting hit hard (which is the opposite in someone training.) That is in general the paradox here and this probably explains why in someone training X factor lowers IL-6 ( which comes from hyperinsulinemia )



8. How much do I take and when?

A: You take 1000mg the arachidonic acid (found in X factor) in divided doses. Each capsule contains 250mg AA. Ideally this total daily dose should be divided up into 3-4 doses during the day. Because insomnia has been reported we don't recommend you take the last dose close to bedtime.

9. Is it best to take x-factor with food or on an empty stomach or doesn't it matter?

A: Most likely taking it with food (particularly some fat) results in better bioavailability.

10. Can I take higher amounts of it for periods shorter than 50 days?

You could, but whether it works better or not is unknown. We ask that your first cycle is at the recommended 750-1000mg dose level for 50 days and if you respond well allow you to consider up to 1500mg for 50 days or 1000 mgs for 75 days as an option.

11. Anything I should avoid while taking x factor

NSAIDS are to be ideally avoided due to their direct effects on inhibiting the COX enzyme (central to the mechanism by which x factor works). However it may be that taking NSAIDS at certain times is worse than others with respect to muscle building. Certainly if you have a headache and are known to respond to NSAIDs you could probably take the medication without interference.


12. Do I need to eliminate everything that is anti-inflammatory?

No. The only anti-inflammatory in the literature (so far) known to have adverse effects on x factor's benefit in skeletal muscle are NSAIDs (or its herbal equivalent white willow bark) due to their direct effect on the COX enzyme. Indirect anti-inflammatory products (which many products claim as a side benefit) most likely have no effect on what x factor does. Actually some of the benefits of arachidonic acid appear to be through reduction of systemic oxidative stress/insulin levels (provided the muscle is active) which ironically may actually reduce COX-2 in non muscle tissues. So all this stuff can be in the same ballpark.






13. Do I need to avoid fish entirely?

You should still eat fish. In fact low dose supplementation of fish oil (2-3 capsules) does not appear to affect the effectiveness of X factor. The good thing is that in that in some cases the clinical benefits of fish oil appear to be directly tied to increases in cell membrane arachidonic acid. This is great news for the future of this supplement.


14. Are there any particular foods I should be eating to make the product better?

Focus on nutrient dense whole foods (basically your typical Body building diet) that have various minerals/vitamins/anti-oxidants in them. Possibly magnesium rich foods may hold some promise for some (spinach, brown rice, etc)

15. Can I use creatine with x factor?

You should always use creatine with x factor (whether it is CEE or some other type of creatine really doesn't matter)

This is because arachidonic acid is involved with skeletal muscle insulin sensitivity (2) and may very well be involved with the insulin secretion curve as well. So you might as well take advantage of this opporunity and use creatine (since its transported by insulin) otherwise you waste a chance at some extra synergy.


16. How about Nitric oxide products? Can I use those with x factor?

Yes! As a matter of fact blocking Nitric oxide (with a nitric oxide inhibitor, L-NAME) affected protein synthesis in the same way as taking NSAIDS did. Nitric oxide also uses COX-2 for its effects on protein synthesis (2)

Some people report the pumps being pretty heavy with X factor when combined with NO products so you should only add one at a time to see how it affects you first.




17. Any type of workout program that works best with x factor?

X factor works well with any training program. However, you may occasionally want to train muscle groups from different angles to tap into some of the AA in the more rested fibers. According to a couple of abstracts, a greater PGF 2 alpha response (therefore more anabolic) was found in fibers that were previously more rested/stabilized. (15)




18. Is there anyone who should not take X factor?

Anyone with a inflammatory condition or family history of inflammatory condition should not take x factor.

19. How much time off between cycles?

Take as much time off as you were on. So if you took x factor 50 days then take at least 50 days off.

20. Can I use anti-oxidants with x factor?

That would be a good idea. As a matter of fact beneficial PGF 2 alpha responses seem to be correlated with glutathione and resting cell membrane stability. (16)

21. Is PCT required?

No. Arachidonic acid does not cause any type of rebound effect upon discontinuation.


22. Is it safe for women to take?

Yes. Arachidonic acid has been taken by men and women for thousands of years. In fact, wild cattle and pigs have approximately 10-12 times more Arachidonic acid (per gram of fat) than the domesticated cattle we are used to eating today. (17)

23. Will x factor cause cancer?

No the ingredient in x factor is not a carcinogen but like other non cancer causing growth promoting agents could be used by an existing tumor

In one study involving the prostate arachidonic acid was observed to cause growth through the PI3K mechanism (PI3K inhibitors blocked growth promoting effects) (18)

PI3K is also the mechanism by which IGF-1 works. So one of the ways x-factor acts as an anabolic is similar to IGF-1.

Other studies have shown stimulation of protein synthesis by arachidonic acid through stimulation of the beta 2 receptor (19, 20) . But stimulation of beta 2 receptors doesn't cause cancer in non cancerous tissues.

Testosterone effects on cancer are analogous to the PI3K and beta 2 mechanisms I just mentioned. It doesn't cause cancer either, but cancer cells will make use of it as a growth promoting agent.

Hilo Original:
X Factor FAQ (version 4/14/07) - Bodybuilding.com Forums
 
Hmm seguro que el Animal Test solo trae 250mg? Donde has encontrado esa informacion? Segun tengo entendido trae bastante mas.

Igualmente aunque traiga solo 250mg (que me parece raro) me sigue gustando mas su composicion, es mas completa.

Y en cuanto a combinaciones, la mejor combincion no hormonal que existe actualmente es Jungle Warfare + MassFX + Halodrol Liquigels.

es un buen combo pero el jungle no me gusta,por lo menos el nuevo,el haladrol esta bien pero poco acido araquidonico al igual que el animal test,el mass fx perfecto

yo veo mejor mass fx+x-factor simplemente,ganancias aseguradas en miles de rewievs yankees y mas barato
 
es un buen combo pero el jungle no me gusta,por lo menos el nuevo,el haladrol esta bien pero poco acido araquidonico al igual que el animal test,el mass fx perfecto

yo veo mejor mass fx+x-factor simplemente,ganancias aseguradas en miles de rewievs yankees y mas barato

Si el combo mass fx y x factor es el mas famoso en los foros americanos, pero me gusta mas el combo JW+MassFX+HaloLG, es el mas potente del mercado.

Edito: El Animal Test lleva mas de 500mg de AA. Teniendo en cuenta que lleva mas ingredientes ademas de AA hace que sea mas efectivo que el X-factor. Y aunque con el X-factor se puede llegar hasta las 4 pastillas, que son 1000mg de AA, segun he leido esto es un poco excesivo, y con 750mg se consiguen los mismos resultados.
 
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Si el combo mass fx y x factor es el mas famoso en los foros americanos, pero me gusta mas el combo JW+MassFX+HaloLG, es el mas potente del mercado.

Edito: El Animal Test lleva mas de 500mg de AA. Teniendo en cuenta que lleva mas ingredientes ademas de AA hace que sea mas efectivo que el X-factor. Y aunque con el X-factor se puede llegar hasta las 4 pastillas, que son 1000mg de AA, segun he leido esto es un poco excesivo, y con 750mg se consiguen los mismos resultados.

ok,gracias por la aclaracion manuel,siempre habia creido que el animal test llevaba solo 250mg...pues gracias a esto a lo mejor va a ser uno de mis poximos suples..ya veremos como va,aun asi el precio es carillo
 
ok,gracias por la aclaracion manuel,siempre habia creido que el animal test llevaba solo 250mg...pues gracias a esto a lo mejor va a ser uno de mis poximos suples..ya veremos como va,aun asi el precio es carillo

Si, eso es cierto, el precio es alto, aunque por las experiencias de algunos compañeros de otro foro y de mi amigo chedu parece que vale la pena, se obtienen buenos resultados, aunque no se si realmente el tandem resultados/precio es tan aceptable como el de por ejemplo, JW y Bad ass mass o incluso el propio X-Factor y MassFX.
 
¿Sabe alguien si con el animal test salen granos o hay un poco de caida de cabello??

Con el HLG si que suele salir un acné moderado.
 
¿Sabe alguien si con el animal test salen granos o hay un poco de caida de cabello??

Con el HLG si que suele salir un acné moderado.

En un principio no deberias tener sides porque los componentes que lleva el Animal Test no aromatizan, es decir, no tienen conversion a estrogenos, el Animal Test no lleva ninguna PH.

Aunque no se si el AA o el DHB tienen algun side como el acne, aun asi me extrañaria mucho ya que de las reviews que he leido y los comentarios de la gente ninguno se ha quejado de sides.

Chedu ha probado el Animal Test, el podra decirte mejor si ha tenido algun side, pero creo que no tuvo ninguno.

Igualmente, has tenido sides con el HaloLG? Me parece raro.
 
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