Sport Mreik: Per your request, Nutritional Sticky

Sport Fitness
Essential Elements Needed for Weight Loss or Weight Gain


This is What you Need to Do:

1. Get your Mind and Body Connected and Prepared.

2. What you need to do for Weight Loss or Weight Gain

--->a. Determine your Calorie Maintenance Needs (MT Line) using Harris Benedict Forumula
--->b. Determine your Deficit or Surplus in Calories over your MT Line dependent upon your goals:
--->c. Calorie Deficit for Fat Loss
--->d. Calorie Surplus for Weight Gain

3. Change your Eating Habits

4. The Nutrients: Protein, Carbs, and good Fats

5. Diet and Calorie Tracking; Strengths and Weaknesses

6. The Bad Choice Set
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We spend a lot of time educating ourselves on various aspects of diet and training, but very little, if any, on training our brain on how to handle it.


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Examine with your Heart from the Start.

Train the Brain:

"Cells that Fire Together Wire Together."

You have to learn to MASTER yourself, to become the MASTER of Weight Loss or Weight Gain for YOURSELF.

Through your goal journey WATCH, LOOK, and LISTEN, to your body it will TELL YOU if your doing the correct things or combination of things!

This is a good link that will provide you with tools in the attempt to MASTER your personal attributes: (The Weight Loss Intricate, by Chillen)

http://training.fitness.com/weight-loss/weight-loss-intricate-27164.html

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This is what you need to do: Weight Loss or Weight Gain
Do yourself a favor, figure out your Maintenance Line (MT Line), adjust off of this, eat well balanced spaced out meals (DONT EVER starve YOURSELF), AND listen to your body for the results.

One can use the Benedict Formula for Fat Loss or Weight Gain.​


Calculate your BMR:

The Harris Benedict equation determines calorie needs for men or woman as follows:

• It calculates your Basal Metabolic Rate (BMR) calorie requirements, based on your height, weight, age and gender.

• It increases your BMR calorie needs by taking into account the number of calories you burn through activities such as exercise.

This gives you your total calorie requirement or approximated Maintenance Line.

Step One : Calculate your BMR with the following formula:

Women: BMR = 655 + (4.35 x weight in pounds) + (4.7 x height in inches) - (4.7 x age in years)
Men: BMR = 66 + (6.23 x weight in pounds) + (12.7 x height in inches) - (6.8 x age in years)

Step Two : In order to incorporate activity into your daily caloric needs, do the following calculation:

•If you are sedentary : BMR x 1.2
•If you are lightly active: BMR x 1.375
•If you are moderately active (You exercise most days a week.): BMR x 1.55
•If you are very active (You exercise daily.): BMR x 1.725
•If you are extra active (You do hard labor or are in athletic training.): BMR x 1.9
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Create a Calorie Deficit: (To Lose Tissue)

In order to lose weight, you must create a calorie deficit. It is easier and healthier to cut back your calorie intake a little bit at a time.

Every 3,500 calories is equivalent to approximated 1 pound of tissue

If you cut back -500 calories a day, you will lose approximately 1 pound per week. (not necessarily all fat)

If you exercise to burn off 500 calories a day (under your MT Line) you will also lose approximately 1 pound per week.

The calorie deficit margin (of -500c) is just an example:

Apply this knowledge by backing off the approximated MT Line (approximated Maintenance line), say for example, a -500c per day, for about 1 week.

Initial Weigh:

Before the week begins, weigh yourself in the AM when you FIRST get up (do not eat yet) (remember your clothing, preferably with just underwear and t-shirt or like clothes). Note the time, and the approximated wgt.

Each day spread your caloric content out throughout the day (keep the body fed, with calories in the 300 to 500c approximated calories each meal), or a like division which mirrors your end caloric deficit limit (meaning MT Line-500c).

This way you have your entire day and body encircled with nutrition (I assume you already know to eat clean), which if your eating right, will give an approximated good energy (not optimal because your in deficit) to fuel your training and exercising schedule.

Weighing Yourself:

At the end of the week, on the same day, the same time, with the same like clothes, weigh yourself again. Note whether you lost or gained tissue (or weight I mean). I recommend one not weighing themselves in the afternoon.

The body will flex a few pounds during the day (due to food consumption, water, bowel retention, etc). Do not create "unnecessary" confusion or stress on yourself by weighing yourself multiple times during the day or during the week.

End of the Week Result

Now, in this example you were calculating a -500c per day deficit. There needs to be -3500c to lose approximated 1lb of fat. Now lets do some basic math. -500cX7=-3500c.

With all things considered equal, and you were meticulous and faithful on the diet and exercise, you should have been CLOSE to losing at least one pound of tissue in the week.

If this didn't happen, this means you need to make finer adjustments, and the MT line is not accurate, and you need to adjust this on your own.

Based upon the FEEDBACK your body is giving you, ask yourself how faithful you were on the diet.

How faithful in training (whether you kept the training schedule (if you didn't, this would effect the caloric equation, no?).

How accurate you figured in your activities caloric wise but, you have the base information to begin making adjustments.
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If Your Goal is to Lose Tissue:

Deficit dieting is the fat burner, and EVERYTHING follows after this. The deficit can be implemented through the diet or exercise can cause the deficit when you know your MT line reference.

If you stick to the basic: The Law of Energy Balance, and tip this to the negative side of the equation, you will be on your way, with everything considered equal and your healthy.

Losing fat is sort of like draining a pool. It usually leaves the shallow end first before the larger end starts to diminish. But, fat and/or tissue is lost all over when deficit dieting.

If you want to lose overall body fat, get your diet in order, eat clean, learn what your approximate MT reference line is according to activities (and back off a HEALTHY margin), and perform overall weight training, and of course, include cardio (cardio DOES have its benefits other than burning calories, carbs, fat, etc).

The most effective beginning is to look at your diet, and make a diet journal in my opinion, THEN work in a training program around this diet.

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The calorie SURPLUS margin is just an example: (Attempt to Gain Weight)

Apply this knowledge by going OVER the approximated MT Line (approximated Maintenance line), say for example, a +500c per day, for about 1 week.

Weighing Yourself:

Before the week begins(or the day you start), weigh yourself in the AM when you FIRST get up (do not eat yet) (remember your clothing, preferably with just underwear and t-shirt or like clothes). Note the time, and the approximated wgt. You can use this as your beginning weight.

At the end of the week, on the same day, the same time, with the same like clothes, weigh yourself again. Note whether you lost or gained tissue (or weight I mean). I recommend one not weighing themselves in the afternoon. The body will flex a few pounds during the day (due to food consumption, water, bowl retention, etc). Do not create "unnecessary" confusion.

Each day spread your caloric content out throughout the day (keep the body fed, with calories in the 300 to 500c approximated calories each meal), or a like division which mirrors your end caloric surplus limit (meaning MT+500c).

This way you have your entire day and body encircled with nutrition (I assume you already know to eat clean).

If this didn't happen, this means you need to make finer adjustments, and the MT line is not accurate, and you need to adjust this on your own.
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The Nutrients: Protein, Carbs, and good Fats:


The 3 Nutrients (Carbs, Good Fats, and Protein) are an essential factor in the diet; however, the Law of Energy Balance within the DIET, is the ultimate KING while the Nutrients can play in some key decisions made within the body.

Nutrient Ratios: Example ONLY


Calories per gram of the three major nutrients:

Protein: 4 calories per gram

Carbohydrates: 4 calories per gram

Fat: 9 calories per gram


Example Configuration:

Carbs (2850 calories or your estimated Calorie intake) x (0.50 or other percentage given) = 1425 calories (divided by 4) = 356 grams

Protein (2850 calories or your estimated Calorie intake ) x (0.30 or other percentage given) = 855 calories (divided by 4) = 214 grams

Fat (2850 calories or your estimated Calorie intake) x (0.20 or other percentage given) = 570 calories (divided by 9) = 63 grams

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Change your Eating Habits
○ Try eating 5 to 6 smaller meals during the day

○ Balance your meals out during the day so in one day you have a mix of Protein, Carbohydrate and good Fats

○ Drink lots of water during the day and before, during and after exercise

Simple Carb Examples: (Various fruit) Grapefruit, Watermelon, Cantaloupe, Strawberries, Oranges, Apples, Pineapple, etc

Complex Carb Examples: Whole Wheat Pita Bread, Oatmeal, Long Grain Brown Rice, Brown Pasta, Malto-Meal (Plain, whole wheat),etc

Good Protein Examples: White or Dark Tuna, Fish, Chicken Breast, Lean Turkey, Lean Ham, Very lean Beef, Quality Whey Protein Powder, etc

Good Fats Examples: Natural Peanut Butter, Various Nuts, Flax Seed, Fish Oils.

Dietary Fiber: Whole Grains (Bran), Some fruits (like Apples), and vegetables, nuts and seeds

Dietary Fiber
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Diet and Calorie Tracking and dealing with Weaknesses and Strengths:

Weakness and Strength (synopsis)


Sit yourself down, and write down every possible dietary weakness and strengths you possess.

Tear yourself myself apart being honest. Develop an “On Limits Food List” and an “Off Limits Food List”.

Evaluate your living environment and work environment, its associated effects and causes, and what would have negative and positive effects toward your goal, and (set a reaction in place)

Develop a list of bad food items that could be made to be more healthy, for example:

Oatmeal cookies, and Peanut Butter Cookies, and replaced the ingredients in these to the more healthy alternative—like Splenda for the replacement of white refined sugar, and whole wheat flour instead of white bleached flour, and so on and so forth.

Developing a CLEAR strategy in dealing with your weaknesses (and changing ingredients in sweet items-like the aforementioned- is one example and can assist with the “I want something sweet—DAMN IT!” type of situation).

Calorie Tracking
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I highly recommend tracking your calories--each day. This can be done through: FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal or you can create your own manual tracking method. Either way, it IS VITALLY important.

You calorie limitations whether in deficit or surplus should be confined to and fit within a 24 hour cycle. (See second post)
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"The Bad Choice Set":
Artificial Sweeteners v. Refined White Sugar

○ Substitute an artificial sweetener of your choice (and at peace with) to replace refined white sugar (Refrain from Refined White Sugar like you would a disease)

Here is why: (link)

Why is Refined Sugar - Known As White Sugar - Bad for You?

To keep a desire for sweet items at bay or within the confines of personal tolerance and within your goal parameters while dieting, I would like you to think about this view:

Think of sweeteners (both artificial sweeteners and refined white sugar, for example) as having to make a choice from:

"A Bad Choice Set" and this "Bad Choice Set" are Artificial Sweeteners v. Refined White Sugar, and how your decision to use one or the other will fit and be appropriate within your dietary and physical fitness goals.

A lot of persons use Splenda (and others types) (as it reduces calories and fits within their dietary goals), but this too has its critics:

Dangers of Splenda | Splenda Side Effects

Therefore, make a decision that is the best one for you among the "Bad Choice Set", that will not harm your personal goals you seek.
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You must have "some appropriate and controlled obsession" in yourself toward your goal.

Having controlled obsession is critical, but some lose this obsession once they learn the amount of work it requires.

There eyes widen and the obsession then pops right out.
Don't let this happen to you: Raise your Want-o-Meter to a new higher level.



Best Regards,


Chillen
 
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For those seeking to lose fat tissue

Please check out this thread :)


http://training.fitness.com/nutrition/sigs-magical-food-lists-29165.html#post237794
 
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Chillen. This is a great explanation and will make an awesome sticky. As a member of the community, I thank you.
 
I like the contents, I just feel it's organized poorly. Try to rearrange it a bit, play with font size spacing and whatnot..
 
I like the contents, I just feel it's organized poorly. Try to rearrange it a bit, play with font size spacing and whatnot..

Mreik, could you be more specific :), to avoid multiple attempts in changing the format? I changed the original quite abit to be more generic.

I could try to lower the fonts in the heading if this is what your referring to. I could also make the outline (at the beginining) more in line (or specific) with the conents, if you wish.

By the way, LOL. The post is at its charactor limits of 10000. :)

Let me know, and I will do what I can change it to your liking.
 
ie. I understand the double spacing between your bullet points, but it's okay to have a paragraph once and a while. A body of text with a title on top makes it easier for someone who just wants one Q answered, as opposed to getting discouraged because they've got to read the entire thing.

There are a few things I'll change, just skimming it over, and I'm sure a few other mods will have plenty of input.
 
Okay, I think I will leave it in the Mods hands, because I could spend alot of time trying to make it right for ya, and this would same time and get it up.

This is cool.
 
We'll tweak it, again great write up Chillen. Thanks for the contribution!

If any members have input please post here..
 
The one "traditional" post I normally give new members had some errors ( I need to stop typing so fast sometimes, lol), and I didnt think it fit "exactly" for a sticky thread, so I decided to add and remove some contents).

Your welcome.

I personally think when the sticky thread is made (and finalized) it should be locked, to avoid mutliple posts to it, and dispersing the "purpose posts" among the other posts by members, in order to keep the meaningful posts together in one place and not mixed up.

If contents need to be added, the mods could do it, one could PM a Mod and make a request, etc. Or we could mak a thread for that purpose.

ROCK ON Mreik......

By the way, I wasnt sure if the content I provided was the "nutrional" posts you were referring to. Was I right? I just guessed.
I guess, so.....LOL
 
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Agree with mreik...looks like the grammer needs to be cleaned up a bit but other than that....great info Chillen.

Really good stuff right there.
 
maybe it would be good to have the pill "truth" (the no over the counter portion) closer to the top.

SO, a new person will first think "crap, my pill is not the answer!!! what is?" Sombody hopped up on pills may not read far enough, cuz they are in a hurry!!

sometimes taking what someone believe IS the answer helps them to see the answer when you give it.

this is a really good write up, and I already had it printed. It feels funny to critique a great work such as this.

fine job. and like DEF said, "as a member, I thank you Chillen"
 
Does anyone else have anything to add? Is there anthing we can add and/or change to make this better?


EDIT: I did some minor editing. I moved the harris benedict formula closer to the top, so the viewier will not have to scroll down to find it, and I made some other small adjustments.
 
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To keep it from falling off the new post list. :)

Be nice. Im trying to keep it up front, so we can get this completed.
 
I was using myself as an example, when I was working the 11P to 7A shift. Yes, this is the time I worked.

At this time, the clock cycle was 7A to 7A, and some times, I would implement one of the techniques and eat at 3A (for reasons I mentioned in the post). On off work days, I had to again adjust (and use one of the techniques) because obviously, this 24 hour cycle wasn't going to work well since I wasn't working 11P to 7A.

The main thing I want to get across is that the clock can be "adjusted" according to what the person does, and can be any 24 hour period that surrounds and fits within their lifestyle.

I may have to change the wording in my post to make this more concise and clear; this may make it more mainstream.

Do you think I need to change the 24 hour example to a person working days to save confusion on new members?

I would if it were me.

As I said before, 99% of the people who'll be reading it either work or go to school during the day. If you want your communication to be as effective, clear and meaningful as possible, know your audience and try and use examples that are targeted and relevant to them when explaining your techniques.

For example...

- most people are up from 7a.m. - 11 p.m
- most people eat 3 basic meals a day ( breakfast, lunch , dinner )
- an optimal ' frequent meal ' protocol to illustrate calorie guidelines would likely mean breakfast, mid morning snack, lunch, mid-afternoon snack, dinner, late night snack, pre-workout snack, post workout snack
- most people either train; morning, mid-morning, at lunch, mid-afternoon, after work or school, or in the evening.​

...and this is the framework ( or variations of it ) you could use to illustrate your points that " that the clock can be "adjusted" according to what the person does, and can be any 24 hour period " in a way that is most relevant to those reading it.

That said, after reading your CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack commentary several times, I still find it very confusing - as it simply seems to be a long description of what actually appears to be some very obvious,basic common sense concepts.

I don't see how CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack is very much different from simply saying; know your calorie targets for an entire day ( typical 16 hour), spread those calories over 5-8 meals/snacks per day ( i.e eating every 2.5 - 3 hours if you can ), and ( depending on when you workout ) make sure you have some pre and post workout nutrition.

Is CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack different than this ? And is so, in what way ?

This will allow them to at least get the basic understanding down, and when time moves on they can (if they choose) change the clock on their own if there work hours change.

This technique application may confuse some new members, but can benefit a member that is comfortable with the basics of diet and training.

Frankly Chillen, I've been training for close to 30 years now and coached and trained a lot of athletes along the way, and I myself find this CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack concept confusing as I don't see how it is saying anything different than to simply know your calorie targets, spread your calorie intake over 5-8 meals/snacks per day, and ensure you have some pre and post workout nutrition.

For example, if the person works 7A to 3P, they can still have the 24 hour cycle clock from 7A to 7A, and just do a normal diet cycle without involving the other techniques I mentioned.

However, they could adjust this clock on the fly and switch to 3P to 3P cycle when working during the day from 7A to 3P. Which could bring in some benefits. One working these hours would naturally have their workout after 3P (or just after the cycle begins for the next day). This time period can be beneficial for some deficit dieters working these hours when they VIEW the 24hours cycle of 3P to 3P in a slightly different perspective.

Again, you're losing me.

Perhaps I just need some clarification as i don't see what it is you're trying to explain or the message you're trying to get across with this " CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack " concept.

Help me understand this. What would you say are the 3 core " CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack " concepts / techniques you are advocating ? And, how do these techniques differ from simply suggesting people.....simply know your calorie targets, spread your calorie intake over 5-8 meals/snacks per day, and ensure you have some pre and post workout nutrition ?

Welcome your thoughts.
 
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I am going to reword the post when I get time to clarify and define some issues.

I think that is a good idea.

And, yes its more than the typical approach to diet.

Actually, that is what I was curious about and couldn't quite figure out - what the " more ' represents exactly.

Still not sure how " CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack " concepts / techniques differ ( i.e from a sports nutrition context ) from a - " typical approach to diet " - i.e from simply suggesting people know their calorie targets, spread their calorie intake over 5-8 meals/snacks per day, and ensure they have some pre and post workout nutrition ?

Could you - very briefly :)- elaborate on this difference / " more " so I could gain a better understanding of what you mean ?

Of course, its going to appear as common sense concepts to us, but to others it can give a different perspective and it has value.

Other than this, I dont have any other comments I wish to make.

Could you at least take a minute and try and help me out with my question above ?

Your " CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack " concepts / techniques sound very interesting and I'd like to learn more about them - I'm just not sure I'm following or interpreting them correctly ( as does sig it seems ).

If you take a moment to clarify " CycleBack, CycleForward, and CycleFlipBack " just a bit further, I'd greatly appreciate it.
 
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