I need to lose 20 pounds.

Papashroom

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Im wanting to bulk up but I need to lose some fat first....Should I work on the weight lifting with lots of proteins? Or should I focus on a low calorie diet with lots of cardio to remove the fat first then once I get near my goal start trying to buff up?

Im a 27 yr old male at around 5'11 200 pds.
 
If your looking to bulk up do not go on a low calorie diet. Its a better idea to go on a diet that focuses on protein coupled with a consistent but varied weight training routine. But since your looking to lose some weight focus more on building muscle because at the same time that your gaining muscle you will burn fat as well. Also Throw in some cardio and you should be good.
 
Yea, I wouldn't listen to the poster above. They're a spammer and really don't know what they're talking about.

Im wanting to bulk up but I need to lose some fat first....Should I work on the weight lifting with lots of proteins?

Have you read the stickies?

If not, you really should. This question is answered there.

Start with this one:

http://weight-loss.fitness.com/topic/11337-words-wisdom.html

To generally answer your question here though... an optimal fat loss program will include weight lifting. So even when you're not trying to bulk up, you should be lifting weights. Why? The link above will answer that.

And protein requirements actually go DOWN when you're bulking.

Up when you're dieting.

Or should I focus on a low calorie diet with lots of cardio to remove the fat first then once I get near my goal start trying to buff up?

Couple of things here:

1. You don't need low calories to lose fat. You simply need a calorie deficit. Going too low, especially when coupled with lots of cardio, is a surefire way to mess things up.

2. To give you the best advice, we'd really need to see your stats. Sex, age, height, weight?

3. Bulking up requires a caloric surplus. Losing fat requires a caloric deficit. When you bulk up, even when doing things perfectly, you'll add some fat. You won't automatically get toned. That said, without knowing much about you, you're best bet would most likely be cutting some fat before focusing on building muscle.

4. If you're untrained and/or carrying a good bit of fat... even when you're losing fat (calorie deficit), there's a good chance you'll add *some* muscle if you're doing things right with the weights.

Im a 27 yr old male at around 5'11 200 pds.

Oops, I'm replying as I read along. Sorry.

These stats aren't terrible. Pretty much my stats at times. Use your own judgement regarding whether you want to bulk or cut. My words above stand regarding cutting.
 
Wait.. protein requirements go down while bulking?

I'm thoroughly confused. Do I need to reread a sticky? I'm not bulking yet. Well I've gained some weight, so I assume its muscle, but I don't think its going to happen much more if at all. I need to lose atleast 50 lbs before I can consider bulking. I'd prefer to go a little lower. I need to see how I feel though and how I look and stuffs so I really won't worry about this till atleast probably this time next year if not sooner. BUT...

I do plan to bulk eventually. Right now I'm going for 160g protein a day. Which is 1 gram for each pound of LBM. My goal is fat loss ATM.

amidoingitrite? Sorry to hijack the thread =P
 
Go up from when dieting.

When dieting, if anything, it's wise to raise protein intake. Extra aminos floating around the bloodstream tend to be a great factor for muscle maintenance.

If there's aminos floating around, why pull them from muscle, right?

When bulking, you don't really have to worry about such events. Why? You're body is in a hypercaloric state, which means losing muscle isn't something you really have to worry about.

1 gram per pound of lbm is my recommendation. If anything, I'll raise that in some instances for a dieting individual, but not always.

There's no hard rules on the subject.
 
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